The Star Wars vs. WH40K Debate

[The Empire of Pretantia]

No? that a bunch of stuff

The shot would blast the SM's unarmored head into pieces.

[Hedron]

to bad for you because the lasers would BOUNCE off his head

Are you kidding me? A good blaster rifle in Star Wars has, at full power, energy equivalent to RL hand grenades.

Space Marines can take the ground pounding power of Kinetic .75 Caliber Bolter Rounds straight inside their armor and explode and still survive long enough for an Apothecary to come by and patch a bitch sticker on that hole.

I would say a couple Blaster Shots would take a while before it melts through a Space Marine Armor and do damage. Even though it goes through - the Space Marines Implants are quite superior to handle pain and treat the wound to reduce internal bleeding - burns - etc.

[The Shadowed Remains]

Sorry to pop your bubble. A Hot Lasgun will just burn right through Space Marine Armor. AND Especially Space Marine Helmet.

Lasgun?

No a E 11

[The Empire of Pretantia]

Lasgun?

No a E 11

He specifically said lasgun.

[The Zeonic States]

Sorry to pop your bubble. A Hot Lasgun will just burn right through Space Marine Armor. AND Especially Space Marine Helmet.

Lasgun?

WH's pathetic excuses for blasters.

[AETEN II]

Now I have done a quite deep research of both technology 40k and Star Wars.

In defeat I will say - Star Wars would win indefinitely. Why?

Well Star Wars mastered Hyper Drive and communications (Which was stated earlier) was faster. So technicality in all military genius. A mere Fleet could drop behind enemy lines and completely avoid a 40k Fleet far ahead of them. Cut Supply lines. Destroy Planets before any help could arrive.

Just imagine that in a wide scale.

Star Wars Technology is indeed far superior than 40k.

This is what was pretty much concluded. The Galactic Empire wouldn't have to directly engage the majority of the Imperium (they would NEVER engage on the ground, it'd be tactical suicide without an entirely automated army to distract them. Fleshy soldiers would be simply wasted) and could take over a massive amount of rim planets before the Imperium could even learn of it or respond- then dissolve into the void of space when Imperium fleets showed up to fight the Tau. The only faction that could actually go blow to blow with them and win is the Necrons. And they're kinda asleep.
(Not to mention I'd doubt they'd want to engage the Necrons. What' I'd find amusing if there was tech sharing between the Empire and one of the sentient Necron Lords, which isn't too unlikely.)

[Hedron]

Sorry to pop your bubble. A Hot Lasgun will just burn right through Space Marine Armor. AND Especially Space Marine Helmet.

Lasgun?

Oh my bad- I was comparing 40k vs 40k Lore

READ ALL BOUT IT

Pretty much they can overcharge their own ammunition and use it as a grenade. Hefty stuff.

[The Shadowed Remains]

This is what happened when some stormtrooper said he is a soldier to a space marine , the space marine just burst out laughing and all the lasers would harmlessly bounce off his armor. They the stormtrooper would run away and the space marine would shot one shot at him ,ONE shot and that would hit his blow up and the stormtrooper would have all his limbs would fly is a hundred different directions and then the space marine would fall on the floor laughing So the war hammer 40k could cream the empire.

Much more likely the E-11 would punch through the Space Marine's Skull right into his Unhelmeted Brain.

._. Honestly this was just poorly thought out pandering.

fat chance

[The Shadowed Remains]

This is what happened when some stormtrooper said he is a soldier to a space marine , the space marine just burst out laughing and all the lasers would harmlessly bounce off his armor. They the stormtrooper would run away and the space marine would shot one shot at him ,ONE shot and that would hit his blow up and the stormtrooper would have all his limbs would fly is a hundred different directions and then the space marine would fall on the floor laughing So the war hammer 40k could cream the empire.

Much more likely the E-11 would punch through the Space Marine's Skull right into his Unhelmeted Brain.

._. Honestly this was just poorly thought out pandering.

fat chance

[Hedron]

Now I have done a quite deep research of both technology 40k and Star Wars.

In defeat I will say - Star Wars would win indefinitely. Why?

Well Star Wars mastered Hyper Drive and communications (Which was stated earlier) was faster. So technicality in all military genius. A mere Fleet could drop behind enemy lines and completely avoid a 40k Fleet far ahead of them. Cut Supply lines. Destroy Planets before any help could arrive.

Just imagine that in a wide scale.

Star Wars Technology is indeed far superior than 40k.

This is what was pretty much concluded. The Galactic Empire wouldn't have to directly engage the majority of the Imperium (they would NEVER engage on the ground, it'd be tactical suicide without an entirely automated army to distract them. Fleshy soldiers would be simply wasted) and could take over a massive amount of rim planets before the Imperium could even learn of it or respond- then dissolve into the void of space when Imperium fleets showed up to fight the Tau. The only faction that could actually go blow to blow with them and win is the Necrons. And they're kinda asleep.
(Not to mention I'd doubt they'd want to engage the Necrons. What' I'd find amusing if there was tech sharing between the Empire and one of the sentient Necron Lords, which isn't too unlikely.)

Though I will pay to watch Necrons fight the Empire. That would be a sight....

[The Grand Imperium of Man]

Hey space Marines have swag they beat anything.

[The Zeonic States]

Much more likely the E-11 would punch through the Space Marine's Skull right into his Unhelmeted Brain.

._. Honestly this was just poorly thought out pandering.

fat chance

Cease your trolling and contribute to the debate or leave.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

Hey space Marines have swag they beat anything.

lolno. Although in terms of characters, the 40K ones are cooler.

[The Shadowed Remains]

to bad for you because the lasers would BOUNCE off his head

Sorry to pop your bubble. A Hot Lasgun will just burn right through Space Marine Armor. AND Especially Space Marine Helmet.

you still have to be within 18 in. without moving because it's rapidfire

[Hedron]

Lasgun?

WH's pathetic excuses for blasters.

Technically speaking we stayed with the literal term of

"laser...."

It shoots a hot stream of LASER - LAS - LASER towards the target.

[Strykla]

Are you kidding me? A good blaster rifle in Star Wars has, at full power, energy equivalent to RL hand grenades.

Space Marines can take the ground pounding power of Kinetic .75 Caliber Bolter Rounds straight inside their armor and explode and still survive long enough for an Apothecary to come by and patch a bitch sticker on that hole.

I would say a couple Blaster Shots would take a while before it melts through a Space Marine Armor and do damage. Even though it goes through - the Space Marines Implants are quite superior to handle pain and treat the wound to reduce internal bleeding - burns - etc.

Hey, it might not hurt that bad but a blaster round through the chest will be crippling. And have you never heard of artillery? Spess Marines are so fucking big they can't take advantage of any sort of cover, so when a creeping barrage of artillery forces them into a tight packed space all you need to do is gun them down. Or bring up some tank.

[Hedron]

Sorry to pop your bubble. A Hot Lasgun will just burn right through Space Marine Armor. AND Especially Space Marine Helmet.

you still have to be within 18 in. without moving because it's rapidfire

The hotshot lasgun is much more powerful than the bolter, but retains the stopping power of a lasgun

[The Grand Imperium of Man]

las guns can blow you Fing arm off man they aren't weak

[The Shadowed Remains]

Lasgun?

WH's pathetic excuses for blasters.

lasguns stink

[AETEN II]

Space Marines can take the ground pounding power of Kinetic .75 Caliber Bolter Rounds straight inside their armor and explode and still survive long enough for an Apothecary to come by and patch a bitch sticker on that hole.

I would say a couple Blaster Shots would take a while before it melts through a Space Marine Armor and do damage. Even though it goes through - the Space Marines Implants are quite superior to handle pain and treat the wound to reduce internal bleeding - burns - etc.

Hey, it might not hurt that bad but a blaster round through the chest will be crippling. And have you never heard of artillery? Spess Marines are so fucking big they can't take advantage of any sort of cover, so when a creeping barrage of artillery forces them into a tight packed space all you need to do is gun them down. Or bring up some tank.

You mean the highly mechanized Galactic Empire army that uses tank with plasma shielding that laughs at projectiles and energy weapons? If so yes, those would shred SPEESSS MEHREENS.

Although again, Titans and ridiculous Guardsmen artillery would make ground battles tactical suicide. Boarding actions would be better.

[The Zeonic States]

Now I have done a quite deep research of both technology 40k and Star Wars.

In defeat I will say - Star Wars would win indefinitely. Why?

Well Star Wars mastered Hyper Drive and communications (Which was stated earlier) was faster. So technicality in all military genius. A mere Fleet could drop behind enemy lines and completely avoid a 40k Fleet far ahead of them. Cut Supply lines. Destroy Planets before any help could arrive.

Just imagine that in a wide scale.

Star Wars Technology is indeed far superior than 40k.

This is what was pretty much concluded. The Galactic Empire wouldn't have to directly engage the majority of the Imperium (they would NEVER engage on the ground, it'd be tactical suicide without an entirely automated army to distract them. Fleshy soldiers would be simply wasted) and could take over a massive amount of rim planets before the Imperium could even learn of it or respond- then dissolve into the void of space when Imperium fleets showed up to fight the Tau. The only faction that could actually go blow to blow with them and win is the Necrons. And they're kinda asleep.
(Not to mention I'd doubt they'd want to engage the Necrons. What' I'd find amusing if there was tech sharing between the Empire and one of the sentient Necron Lords, which isn't too unlikely.)

You didn't mention the Massive beat down of the Orks Or Nids though!

Honestly glassing the Orks from World to World and obliteraitng the Nids from Existance via pulling them into ambushes and killzones via their usage of gravity which can be interfered with by Imperial techology and peppering them with designer viruses would be an amusing topic as well.

Besides it beats the whole stale Imperium vs Empire Debate which has basically raged since page 4.

[The Shadowed Remains]

you still have to be within 18 in. without moving because it's rapidfire

The hotshot lasgun is much more powerful than the bolter, but retains the stopping power of a lasgun

yeah well a storm bolter can take you on and all I have to do is call in the grey knights

[The Grand Imperium of Man]

the name is Space Marines don't you think they will be good in space?

[Hedron]

Space Marines can take the ground pounding power of Kinetic .75 Caliber Bolter Rounds straight inside their armor and explode and still survive long enough for an Apothecary to come by and patch a bitch sticker on that hole.

I would say a couple Blaster Shots would take a while before it melts through a Space Marine Armor and do damage. Even though it goes through - the Space Marines Implants are quite superior to handle pain and treat the wound to reduce internal bleeding - burns - etc.

Hey, it might not hurt that bad but a blaster round through the chest will be crippling. And have you never heard of artillery? Spess Marines are so fucking big they can't take advantage of any sort of cover, so when a creeping barrage of artillery forces them into a tight packed space all you need to do is gun them down. Or bring up some tank.

Ooooo Artillery.... Don't get me started with the Imperial Guard Artillery...Oh boy.

Actually that is a misconception of Space Marines not taking cover. They actually do. And before you are able to fire your Artillery - They follow a BOOK OF LEASH (Codex)

Which pretty much every Space Marine learns every tactic to counter existing enemy tactics.

"Enemy Targeting you Captain?"

"Aye with a bitch cannon..."

"Proceed Codex Astartes 'Piss Snake' Maneuver"

"Splitting and spreading Squads 50 Meters apart. Contacted Air support to silence the cannons."

[Strykla]

Hey, it might not hurt that bad but a blaster round through the chest will be crippling. And have you never heard of artillery? Spess Marines are so fucking big they can't take advantage of any sort of cover, so when a creeping barrage of artillery forces them into a tight packed space all you need to do is gun them down. Or bring up some tank.

You mean the highly mechanized Galactic Empire army that uses tank with plasma shielding that laughs at projectiles and energy weapons? If so yes, those would shred SPEESSS MEHREENS.

Although again, Titans and ridiculous Guardsmen artillery would make ground battles tactical suicide. Boarding actions would be better.

Alright, Base Delta Zero any fucking planet that does not immediately surrender. The Empire's established superiority in space would make any ground advantage moot. Hell, the Eclipse has a crust-cracking laser, and it's a Star Destroyer.