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Postby Gauntleted Fist » Fri Dec 28, 2012 4:33 pm

Bone Fort wrote:3. Then you now have two atoms occupying the same space. Not going to end well.

Something about rapid approaching non-existence.

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Postby Strykla » Fri Dec 28, 2012 4:34 pm

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Still wouldn't work, the Empire isn't nearly that stupid as to put that capability in the hands of a single person. And even if they did, there's still the fleet guarding it, which numbers in the hundreds, and all the forces only a few hours away that would begin pouring in to defend the capital. The Reapers would be outnumbered and outgunned.


Correct, Not a single person but where do the code's come from? A station or land based control center, You need only 1 or 2 people inside to get a few codes through before they are killed

The firewalls that I'd think SW military tech uses aren't like how you log onto your computer. It's not a matter of typing something in with the best modern computer security systems. It is far more complicated.

There's also this: do the Reapers even have compatible computers? A Mac isn't compatible with a PC.
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Postby Yes Im Biop » Fri Dec 28, 2012 4:35 pm

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Bone Fort wrote:3. Then you now have two atoms occupying the same space. Not going to end well.

Something about rapid approaching non-existence.


By braking one of the fundamental law's...Could be pretty fun to watch the planet go hawire

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Correct, Not a single person but where do the code's come from? A station or land based control center, You need only 1 or 2 people inside to get a few codes through before they are killed

The firewalls that I'd think SW military tech uses aren't like how you log onto your computer. It's not a matter of typing something in with the best modern computer security systems. It is far more complicated.

There's also this: do the Reapers even have compatible computers? A Mac isn't compatible with a PC.

That's because Mac's suck but not the point.

How then would they knwo what ship is their's? Ir tag's which can be copied?
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Postby Gauntleted Fist » Fri Dec 28, 2012 4:36 pm

Strykla wrote:The firewalls that I'd think SW military tech uses aren't like how you log onto your computer. It's not a matter of typing something in with the best modern computer security systems. It is far more complicated.

There's also this: do the Reapers even have compatible computers? A Mac isn't compatible with a PC.

To be fair, I'm sure the Reapers could figure it out.

The problem is that Star Wars level technology is beyond what the Reapers posses. Reapers are reliant on technologically outclassing their opponents. In this case, they are the ones massively outclassed.

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Postby Bone Fort » Fri Dec 28, 2012 4:36 pm

Yes Im Biop wrote:By braking one of the fundamental law's...Could be pretty fun to watch the planet go hawire


I don't see how that's answering anything.

And Macs don't suck. Ask me about the last time mine got a virus.
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Postby Gauntleted Fist » Fri Dec 28, 2012 4:37 pm

Yes Im Biop wrote:
Gauntleted Fist wrote:Something about rapid approaching non-existence.


By braking one of the fundamental law's...Could be pretty fun to watch the planet go hawire

Nothing would happen to the planet. Planetary shields stop FTL objects.

And, for the record, I know that this is incredibly bullshit. That's the problem with Star Wars technology. It's bullshit, but it's justified in-universe so there it is.

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Postby Yes Im Biop » Fri Dec 28, 2012 4:38 pm

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Yes Im Biop wrote:By braking one of the fundamental law's...Could be pretty fun to watch the planet go hawire


I don't see how that's answering anything.


I wasn't aware there was a question. What would happen when 2 atom's occupied the same space? I'm gonna assume something like Matter annihilation and that's a lot of matter.
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Postby Yes Im Biop » Fri Dec 28, 2012 4:39 pm

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By braking one of the fundamental law's...Could be pretty fun to watch the planet go hawire

Nothing would happen to the planet. Planetary shields stop FTL objects.

And, for the record, I know that this is incredibly bullshit. That's the problem with Star Wars technology. It's bullshit, but it's justified in-universe so there it is.


Which is the same for most ME stuff... So Bullshit + Bullshit end's up looking like a bad RP.
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Postby Bone Fort » Fri Dec 28, 2012 4:39 pm

Yes Im Biop wrote:I wasn't aware there was a question. What would happen when 2 atom's occupied the same space? I'm gonna assume something like Matter annihilation and that's a lot of matter.


Matter annihilation of the Reaper and the air it collided with, nothing more. If I'm correct that's a solid lose for the Reapers.
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Postby Yes Im Biop » Fri Dec 28, 2012 4:40 pm

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Yes Im Biop wrote:I wasn't aware there was a question. What would happen when 2 atom's occupied the same space? I'm gonna assume something like Matter annihilation and that's a lot of matter.


Matter annihilation of the Reaper and the air it collided with, nothing more. If I'm correct that's a solid lose for the Reapers.


A couple million ton's of matter being converted to energy? Sound's like a world ender to me.
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Postby Reploid Productions » Fri Dec 28, 2012 4:41 pm

I rather doubt the Reapers would go straight for Coruscant as an opening gambit anyway. They could do that sort of thing in the MEverse because the Citadel was basically one giant trap they had set up. I think they would start at the far less intensely defended fringes and very patiently work their way inward from there. They would undoubtedly seek to avoid being detected for as long as possible; if the Empire doesn't know about the threat slowly building, they're not going to be able to counter what they aren't even aware of effectively.

I mean, the Reapers aren't stupid; they would doubtlessly understand that their technology and numbers are outmatched at the moment, and would remain hidden while working to correct this flaw. Then it becomes a race between the Reapers' ability to stay hidden and the Empire's ability to potentially find them.
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Postby Bone Fort » Fri Dec 28, 2012 4:43 pm

Reploid Productions wrote:I rather doubt the Reapers would go straight for Coruscant as an opening gambit anyway. They could do that sort of thing in the MEverse because the Citadel was basically one giant trap they had set up. I think they would start at the far less intensely defended fringes and very patiently work their way inward from there. They would undoubtedly seek to avoid being detected for as long as possible; if the Empire doesn't know about the threat slowly building, they're not going to be able to counter what they aren't even aware of effectively.

I mean, the Reapers aren't stupid; they would doubtlessly understand that their technology and numbers are outmatched at the moment, and would remain hidden while working to correct this flaw. Then it becomes a race between the Reapers' ability to stay hidden and the Empire's ability to potentially find them.


They would be detected rather fast, as the outer edges of the galaxy suddenly disappearing would be quite noticeable.

And then there's the fact that the Force guiding a group of unlikely heroes to victory (i.e. the plot of pretty much any SW story ever).
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Reploid Productions wrote:I rather doubt the Reapers would go straight for Coruscant as an opening gambit anyway. They could do that sort of thing in the MEverse because the Citadel was basically one giant trap they had set up. I think they would start at the far less intensely defended fringes and very patiently work their way inward from there. They would undoubtedly seek to avoid being detected for as long as possible; if the Empire doesn't know about the threat slowly building, they're not going to be able to counter what they aren't even aware of effectively.

I mean, the Reapers aren't stupid; they would doubtlessly understand that their technology and numbers are outmatched at the moment, and would remain hidden while working to correct this flaw. Then it becomes a race between the Reapers' ability to stay hidden and the Empire's ability to potentially find them.

Well, yeah, but then the problem for the Reapers becomes "Everyone everywhere that cares about detecting threats and is charged with this can talk to everyone everywhere else at any point in the galaxy with the press of a button."

That's the ultimate problem they have to overcome. They can't stop FTL communication or travel from taking place in a situation that involves Star Wars level of technology. They mount hypercoms on corvettes and in every system that has even a remote Imperial presence.

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Postby Yes Im Biop » Fri Dec 28, 2012 4:45 pm

Bone Fort wrote:
Reploid Productions wrote:I rather doubt the Reapers would go straight for Coruscant as an opening gambit anyway. They could do that sort of thing in the MEverse because the Citadel was basically one giant trap they had set up. I think they would start at the far less intensely defended fringes and very patiently work their way inward from there. They would undoubtedly seek to avoid being detected for as long as possible; if the Empire doesn't know about the threat slowly building, they're not going to be able to counter what they aren't even aware of effectively.

I mean, the Reapers aren't stupid; they would doubtlessly understand that their technology and numbers are outmatched at the moment, and would remain hidden while working to correct this flaw. Then it becomes a race between the Reapers' ability to stay hidden and the Empire's ability to potentially find them.


They would be detected rather fast, as the outer edges of the galaxy suddenly disappearing would be quite noticeable.

And then there's the fact that the Force guiding a group of unlikely heroes to victory (i.e. the plot of pretty much any SW story ever).


Unless the reaper's didn't Destroy em, Just took them over and make it look like Business as Usual.
For this scenario they would of been watching the galaxy for Decade's, Perhaps hundred's of years.
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Postby Bone Fort » Fri Dec 28, 2012 4:47 pm

Yes Im Biop wrote:Unless the reaper's didn't Destroy em, Just took them over and make it look like Business as Usual.
For this scenario they would of been watching the galaxy for Decade's, Perhaps hundred's of years.


Even if they took over, word would still get out due to FTL communication that the Reapers can't stop.
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Yes Im Biop wrote:Unless the reaper's didn't Destroy em, Just took them over and make it look like Business as Usual.
For this scenario they would of been watching the galaxy for Decade's, Perhaps hundred's of years.

Masses of people becoming mind slaves to foreign powers doesn't look like "business as usual" to the Force.

Especially not a force user as powerful as the Emperor. (I cannot believe you are making me argue for the Emperor here. I feel dirty.)
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Gauntleted Fist wrote:
Reploid Productions wrote:I rather doubt the Reapers would go straight for Coruscant as an opening gambit anyway. They could do that sort of thing in the MEverse because the Citadel was basically one giant trap they had set up. I think they would start at the far less intensely defended fringes and very patiently work their way inward from there. They would undoubtedly seek to avoid being detected for as long as possible; if the Empire doesn't know about the threat slowly building, they're not going to be able to counter what they aren't even aware of effectively.

I mean, the Reapers aren't stupid; they would doubtlessly understand that their technology and numbers are outmatched at the moment, and would remain hidden while working to correct this flaw. Then it becomes a race between the Reapers' ability to stay hidden and the Empire's ability to potentially find them.

Well, yeah, but then the problem for the Reapers becomes "Everyone everywhere that cares about detecting threats and is charged with this can talk to everyone everywhere else at any point in the galaxy with the press of a button."

That's the ultimate problem they have to overcome. They can't stop FTL communication or travel from taking place in a situation that involves Star Wars level of technology. They mount hypercoms on corvettes and in every system that has even a remote Imperial presence.


And if no one ActiveX knew something was wrong? Then there would be no need to tell anyone about anything, Until it was to late and their brain is the reaper's new doll.
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Postby Yes Im Biop » Fri Dec 28, 2012 4:48 pm

Gauntleted Fist wrote:
Yes Im Biop wrote:Unless the reaper's didn't Destroy em, Just took them over and make it look like Business as Usual.
For this scenario they would of been watching the galaxy for Decade's, Perhaps hundred's of years.

Masses of people becoming mind slaves to foreign powers doesn't look like "business as usual" to the Force.

Especially not a force user as powerful as the Emperor. (I cannot believe you are making me argue for the Emperor here. I feel dirty.)


...Wow now i feel dirty...
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Postby Yes Im Biop » Fri Dec 28, 2012 4:49 pm

Bone Fort wrote:
Yes Im Biop wrote:Unless the reaper's didn't Destroy em, Just took them over and make it look like Business as Usual.
For this scenario they would of been watching the galaxy for Decade's, Perhaps hundred's of years.


Even if they took over, word would still get out due to FTL communication that the Reapers can't stop.


The Reaper's don't take over by invading, They take over Litterly, They take over their mind's slowly, so much so they don't even realize that it's happening.
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Postby Zanera » Fri Dec 28, 2012 4:51 pm

Neither exist.How should we know which one would win?

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Postby Bone Fort » Fri Dec 28, 2012 4:52 pm

Yes Im Biop wrote:The Reaper's don't take over by invading, They take over Litterly, They take over their mind's slowly, so much so they don't even realize that it's happening.


Which would be like screaming out loud "Hey! Look over here, evil invaders!" in the Force, alerting pretty much every Jedi and Sith... hell, even the dead ones would notice.
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Yes Im Biop wrote:The Reaper's don't take over by invading, They take over Litterly, They take over their mind's slowly, so much so they don't even realize that it's happening.

Droids on planets would take notice? Other species that don't respond to indoctrination the same way would notice? Computers charged with standard surveillance of the populace would notice changes in behavioral patterns? Force users would notice something wrong?

People with strong wills would be able to resist the indoctrination and report in? If people with strong wills cannot resist indoctrination, why didn't the reapers just indoctrinate Shepard?

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Postby Yes Im Biop » Fri Dec 28, 2012 4:54 pm

Gauntleted Fist wrote:
Yes Im Biop wrote:The Reaper's don't take over by invading, They take over Litterly, They take over their mind's slowly, so much so they don't even realize that it's happening.

Droids on planets would take notice? Other species that don't respond to indoctrination the same way would notice? Computers charged with standard surveillance of the populace would notice changes in behavioral patterns? Force users would notice something wrong?

People with strong wills would be able to resist the indoctrination and report in? If people with strong wills cannot resist indoctrination, why didn't the reapers just indoctrinate Shepard?


They may have, One of the biggest arguments in the Fandom XD


How would they notice if they were being taken over?


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Gauntleted Fist wrote:Droids on planets would take notice? Other species that don't respond to indoctrination the same way would notice? Computers charged with standard surveillance of the populace would notice changes in behavioral patterns? Force users would notice something wrong?

People with strong wills would be able to resist the indoctrination and report in? If people with strong wills cannot resist indoctrination, why didn't the reapers just indoctrinate Shepard?


THEY DID!
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Yes Im Biop wrote:How would they notice if they were being taken over?

Isn't the whole point of being a strongly willed individual that they automatically resist compulsions to act against their nature?

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