"Music sucks these days": the ultimate disproof

[North Wiedna]

All in all the amount of crap stuff has really increased and the amount of good stuff has decreased.

or maybe you don't look hard enough?

[The Corparation]

Honestly I don't think I've heard any album from the last ten years that compares to stuff like Sublime's self titled album, Black Flag's Damaged, anything by the Ramones, the Beatles etc etc.

...have you looked?

Yes I have. I've heard some new stuff that's good. But none that are anywhere near as good as the old stuff.

All in all the amount of crap stuff has really increased and the amount of good stuff has decreased.

or maybe you don't look hard enough?

I'm not saying there isn't good stuff out there. I'm saying that there's not as much good stuff coming out. I have yet to find anything from the past few years that equals the old stuff.

[Nidaria]

This is why I listen to Classical, Romantic, and Folk music.

[North Wiedna]

I'm not saying there isn't good stuff out there. I'm saying that there's not as much good stuff coming out. I have yet to find anything from the past few years that equals the old stuff.

what's some stuff you've heard?

[Meryuma]

This is why I listen to Classical, Romantic, and Folk music.

You apparently didn't read the OP.

[Azrael]

This is why I listen to Classical, Romantic, and Folk music.

Folk is not specific to a time period.

[The Republic of The Republic of]

For Your Info Nirvana was a Grunge band, not rock, you can not tell me most kids don't ;isten to these things, what do they listen to then, and also, i'm 13, gets your facts right, don't say that i'm stupid and wrong, otherwise I'll tell a mod

And no, my brother is not stupid enough to listen to the c*** they have today, however, most kids at my school love music today, even dubstep, which isn't even music

Oh dear lord, there is sooo much wrong with this post.

[Hurdegaryp]

That post may be wrong in many ways, but it's also rather entertaining. Since grunge is simply a variant of rock, it looks like Dogapus doesn't know a lot about music in general. Rock has evolved in many different substyles, this is why distinctly different bands such as Dire Straits, Killing Joke and Napalm Death can all be called rock acts. Personally I think that there's still quite a bit of talent out there, it's just a matter of looking around. If you're only scratching the surface of the music world, it's not strange that all you'll find is dirt.

[DRJagon]

No thanks, I'll get to that point when it's needed.. I prefer the music I listed. Didn't come here for suggestions, sir.

Oterro, must be the all-knowing.

oh jeez what is this high school debate club, drop the ''sir'' and the pretentious attitude

this from someone who has the audacity to tell pop fans they should stop listening to music

Coming from the guy breaking down a 13 year old's post and digesting it, please..

I'd give anybody a hard time if they tell me they like Nicki Minaj. She's disgraceful to the rap game, gives it a horrible, gimmicky look.. a long with 90% of the other artist that's on the radio 'now-a-days'.

So please, kind sir, drop your holier-than-thou attitude and lighten up. Or go listen to rap music.

[Cannot think of a name]

Chances are if you can't find today's good music you wouldn't have been able to find yesterday's good music either were you around. You'd just be listening to Rick Astley unironically like everyone else wondering if there isn't something better.

[United Kingdom of Muffins]

I think true pop music has gone down in quality and quality dosn't mean i wuv jebus!!! and i eat gummy bears every day!!! Saying that the lyrical language is rough makes it bad is just silly and if you think most of the "old' songs are clean you didn't do too well in your english class did you? I am enjoying the techno weirdyness from Europe though so maybe I'm just crazy.

[Azrael]

oh jeez what is this high school debate club, drop the ''sir'' and the pretentious attitude

this from someone who has the audacity to tell pop fans they should stop listening to music

Coming from the guy breaking down a 13 year old's post and digesting it, please..

I'd give anybody a hard time if they tell me they like Nicki Minaj. She's disgraceful to the rap game, gives it a horrible, gimmicky look.. a long with 90% of the other artist that's on the radio 'now-a-days'.

So please, kind sir, drop your holier-than-thou attitude and lighten up. Or go listen to rap music.

To sum up your words, "you shouldn't thoroughly evaluate someone's inaccuracies but I can bitch because someone likes different music than me." Dude, I don't like Nicki Minaj either, but if someone does, I won't intentionally annoy the hell out of them in a vain attempt to get them to stop. That's just entirely rude and unwarranted, like taking away a little kid's candy and yelling in their face that they should never eat it again.

[DRJagon]

I didn't annoy the hell out of no one, and if I did they are easily irritable. I will let someone into my brain when they express they like Nicki Minaj. I won't take their candy away, but I will tell them its fucking disgusting. Nicki Minaj, unfortunately, raps.. so she's the type of music I listen to, so your idea of me bitching at someone for listening to different music is quite dis-respectful and really irrelevant.

So your attempt to sum up my words was a bad summary. Sorry for this misunderstanding. Edit; Rather than me having the "pretentious" attitude, I felt like it was Oterro, especially when he can reference me to a high school debate team and tell me to stop using "sir", when he tells me he has more interest in music (when he knows nothing except my nation state, concerning me) and spouts off to a kid who is in the first year off his teenage years.

[Azrael]

I didn't annoy the hell out of no one, and if I did they are easily irritable. I will let someone into my brain when they express they like Nicki Minaj. I won't take their candy away, but I will tell them its fucking disgusting. Nicki Minaj, unfortunately, raps.. so she's the type of music I listen to, and I wouldn't tell anyone to stop listening to it, just to listen to different artist.

So your attempt to sum up my words was a bad summary. Sorry for this misunderstanding.

I'd give anybody a hard time if they tell me they like Nicki Minaj.

Be a little more descriptive next time. I recommend taking a different approach than the quote directly above. You can critique someone else's tastes but at least evaluate why you disagree and provide recommendations without coming off as obnoxious.

[Zweite Alaje]

oh jeez what is this high school debate club, drop the ''sir'' and the pretentious attitude

this from someone who has the audacity to tell pop fans they should stop listening to music

Coming from the guy breaking down a 13 year old's post and digesting it, please..

I'd give anybody a hard time if they tell me they like Nicki Minaj. She's disgraceful to the rap game, gives it a horrible, gimmicky look.. a long with 90% of the other artist that's on the radio 'now-a-days'.

So please, kind sir, drop your holier-than-thou attitude and lighten up. Or go listen to rap music.

Nicki Minaj isn't the only rapper, just don't listen to her music, damn. I don't like most her music but sheesh, let her and her fans do them. I listen to more foreign rap and music in general (mostly Spanish and German) than I do American rap atm, there are always good rappers out there, but sometimes you have to just do some searching.

[DRJagon]

This is a topic of "ultimate disproof" of why music doesn't suck, and someone talks about liking Nicki Minaj, sorry for me being obnoxious.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LUkErRmHTc


edit; Zweite Alaje, I listen to nothing but rap and rap instrumentals. I know of plenty of great artist, I don't wander out of the states though. no foreign rapper has caught my attention. No to sound rude but the accent of UK rappers is something I haven't gotten accustomed to, and of course the language barrier for rappers of other regions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ncSt5xC8Uk
Enjoy.

[Meryuma]

Saying that the lyrical language is rough makes it bad is just silly and if you think most of the "old' songs are clean you didn't do too well in your english class did you?

Erm... that's my point. Did you read the OP?

[Zweite Alaje]

This is a topic of "ultimate disproof" of why music doesn't suck, and someone talks about liking Nicki Minaj, sorry for me being obnoxious.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LUkErRmHTc


edit; Zweite Alaje, I listen to nothing but rap and rap instrumentals. I know of plenty of great artist, I don't wander out of the states though. no foreign rapper has caught my attention. No to sound rude but the accent of UK rappers is something I haven't gotten accustomed to, and of course the language barrier for rappers of other regions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ncSt5xC8Uk
Enjoy.

Well, my love for foreign music is an extention of my interest and love of Linguistics. I do still strongly suggest looking into rap in other languages. I listen to American rap still, but a large part of it is underground stuff (for the more modern stuff anyway).

I'll dig up some stuff from my favs, maybe you'll like them.

This group is good, I found them a few years ago.

This guy is a great British artist, just awesome

Bonus non-English stuff:
Awesome Spanish rap group

Awesome German rap

Edit: The stuff you linked is good stuff BTW, new artists I've never seen.

[The Ben Boys]

Rock and guitar has matured, with a different flavor. However, I do prefer the 80s, and this new pop stuff is really, really, bad. I'm sorry if I'm being a sour puss, but it makes me want to hurl.

[Zweite Alaje]

Rock and guitar has matured, with a different flavor. However, I do prefer the 80s, and this new pop stuff is really, really, bad. I'm sorry if I'm being a sour puss, but it makes me want to hurl.

If you mean by the Beiber sort of pop then yes, I hate it, but I'm quite a fan of Demi Lovato.

[The God-Realm]

It does not all suck.

Just what is popular sucks.

[Meryuma]

It does not all suck.

Just what is popular sucks.

That's not true, either.

[Tyrants]

The ultimate disproof is... Muse.

Listen to this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=en ... YveSg&NR=1

How can anyone not like this?

[Reploid Productions]

Eh, the way I see it, there has been and will always be "good" music, and there will always be crap music. Sometimes the crap is what gets into the mainstream awareness and makes it seem like music has gone downhill, and sometimes the good stuff is what gets the air time and makes it seem like music is awesome. The nice thing now with the internet is that it is much, MUCH easier to find good stuff; non-mainstream music is much more accessible now than it was back when the only real options were the radio and the TV. Plus the traditional barriers to entry (the studio system) are becoming increasingly obsolete as quality recording gear becomes more affordable and internet distribution makes it possible to get exposure without the backing of a label.

[Ganos Lao]

I'll admit that I usually listen to 90s and earlier music (like, say, the 1990s to classical) because I couldn't find any interest in what's popular these days.

But for me, it's just because I'm at my happiest listening to the older music. Doesn't mean I completely shun today's music. There's some fine bands over in Europe who I really have taken a liking to and you may say that I live in my own little bubble because I don't know anything about people like Adele, Lana Del Rey and other such acts. I've simply found my comfort zone and intend to stay in it.

For me, the "music sucks today!" crowd oftentimes ends up making them look silly because they only look at what "mainstream America" has. They don't consider any other scenes out there that may catch their eye. So when they come up to me or anyone and say music today sucks, I have to wonder if they did some digging. But, then again, if they have, and still claim it, I can't do anything but accept it. Free will and all that governs things like this.