NATION

PASSWORD

Is this generation blinded?

A coffee shop for those who like to discuss art, music, books, movies, TV, each other's own works, and existential angst.
User avatar
Peacelia
Secretary
 
Posts: 33
Founded: Mar 03, 2012
Ex-Nation

Is this generation blinded?

Postby Peacelia » Sat Oct 13, 2012 10:36 am

I've been noticing now that most kids today are ignoring rock and instead turning to Techno and Hip Hop. What do you think?

User avatar
Arcadsland
Envoy
 
Posts: 248
Founded: Oct 06, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Arcadsland » Sat Oct 13, 2012 10:39 am

Peacelia wrote:I've been noticing now that most kids today are ignoring rock and instead turning to Techno and Hip Hop. What do you think?

Where did you come up with this thought? Everyone on my bus blasts metallica the whole time and my ipod consists of nothing, but 70-80's rock music and more recent songs. I don't know many kids who fit the category your describing.
Last edited by Arcadsland on Sat Oct 13, 2012 10:40 am, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
Oterro
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 16939
Founded: May 01, 2010
Ex-Nation

Postby Oterro » Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:08 am

No, let me tell you how "this generation" is. There are;

1) the people who listen to whatever music they like and don't really care. they live a happy existence listening to the stuff they hear in the radio. ignorance is bliss.
2) pretentious dorks who know nothing about music and think they know everything. warning signs of these people: mislabelling artists, they like their music "to have meaning", they only listen to "classic rock", their favourite artists are led zeppelin, queen, the beatles, rush or pink floyd, they rant about their generation sucking and the absolute key give away, they were born in the wrong generation

you probably have rubbish taste in rock, too.
we, unlike the bourgeoisie, have nothing to lose and therefore our expression will be the only honest one, our words will be the only challenging ones and our art will be the one revolutionary expression. We need new noise and new voices and new canvases to become something more than the last poets of a useless generation.

User avatar
Wisconsin9
Post Czar
 
Posts: 35753
Founded: May 18, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Wisconsin9 » Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:10 am

Tastes in music change.
~~~~~~~~
We are currently 33% through the Trump administration.
................................................................................................................................................................................................................
................................................................................................................................................................................................................

User avatar
Bleckonia
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1528
Founded: Jun 12, 2011
Ex-Nation

Postby Bleckonia » Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:12 am

Oterro wrote:No, let me tell you how "this generation" is. There are;

1) the people who listen to whatever music they like and don't really care. they live a happy existence listening to the stuff they hear in the radio. ignorance is bliss.
2) pretentious dorks who know nothing about music and think they know everything. warning signs of these people: mislabelling artists, they like their music "to have meaning", they only listen to "classic rock", their favourite artists are led zeppelin, queen, the beatles, rush or pink floyd, they rant about their generation sucking and the absolute key give away, they were born in the wrong generation

you probably have rubbish taste in rock, too.


Hey!!! I listen only to classic rock, and I honestly don't care if music has meaning or not! I just like the sound. Today's music sucks ass!!!!!!!!!!!

>:(
Economic Left: -9.13; Social Libertarian: -6.26
Atheist. Marxist-Leninist. Anti-consumerist.
Revolutionary Socialist Party of Fernão, Workers of the world, unite!

User avatar
Grand Britannia
Postmaster-General
 
Posts: 14615
Founded: Apr 15, 2012
Capitalizt

Postby Grand Britannia » Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:12 am

I'm the only one in my entire school that listens to Game OSTs and J-Rock.

Fuck following the crowd.
ଘ( ˘ ᵕ˘)つ----x .*・。゚・ᵕ

User avatar
Wisconsin9
Post Czar
 
Posts: 35753
Founded: May 18, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Wisconsin9 » Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:13 am

Grand Britannia wrote:I'm the only one in my entire school that listens to Game OSTs and J-Rock.

Fuck following the crowd.

Also this. I really only listen to stuff from the 60s, 80s and 90s (fuck disco, man).
~~~~~~~~
We are currently 33% through the Trump administration.
................................................................................................................................................................................................................
................................................................................................................................................................................................................

User avatar
Fedeledland
Senator
 
Posts: 3785
Founded: Mar 27, 2010
Ex-Nation

Postby Fedeledland » Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:16 am

Just because you don't like most of the music today's generation hears it doesn't mean that the generation is blinded.

I do dislike most current music taste, but that doesn't mean that "this generation sucks" and "I was born in the wrong generation" as many commenters seem to think.
Factbook (FanT·FT)
Embassies
Political Info (OOC)
WARNING: My writing might contain amounts of extreme pomp and purple prose. Read at your own caution.
QUE VIVA EL REY!

User avatar
Arthurista
Minister
 
Posts: 2312
Founded: Sep 04, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Arthurista » Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:17 am

"I've been noticing now that most kids today are ignoring rock and instead turning to Techno and Hip Hop. What do you think?"

Well, I bet people of the Beatles and the Stones' generation complained about kids not listening to Louis Armstrong and proper jazz or something, and before that it'd have been Beethoven. I'm a huge fan of rock myself but times change

User avatar
Grand Britannia
Postmaster-General
 
Posts: 14615
Founded: Apr 15, 2012
Capitalizt

Postby Grand Britannia » Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:17 am

Wisconsin9 wrote:
Grand Britannia wrote:I'm the only one in my entire school that listens to Game OSTs and J-Rock.

Fuck following the crowd.

Also this. I really only listen to stuff from the 60s, 80s and 90s (fuck disco, man).


Disco's meh to me.

I also don't follow any bands in specific. Dunno why I should buy the entire collection just to listen to 2 or 3 songs I find interesting.
ଘ( ˘ ᵕ˘)つ----x .*・。゚・ᵕ

User avatar
Phocidaea
Negotiator
 
Posts: 5316
Founded: Jul 21, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Phocidaea » Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:24 am

There's a tiny bit of techno and hip-hop that's perfectly good. But I agree; there isn't even any "mainstream" rock anymore; rock music has been so pushed out of the mainstream that now pretty much all rock is "alternative".
Call me Phoca.
Senator [Unknown] of the Liberal Democrats in NSG Senate.
Je suis Charlie: Because your feels don't justify murder.

User avatar
Aglrinia
Minister
 
Posts: 2848
Founded: Jul 02, 2009
Ex-Nation

Postby Aglrinia » Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:27 am

Arcadsland wrote:
Peacelia wrote:I've been noticing now that most kids today are ignoring rock and instead turning to Techno and Hip Hop. What do you think?

Where did you come up with this thought? Everyone on my bus blasts metallica the whole time and my ipod consists of nothing, but 70-80's rock music and more recent songs. I don't know many kids who fit the category your describing.

Plus my daughter listens to everything from the Bealtes to Mozart. Not that she has much of chose really i have it playing very lightly on an ipod speaker in her room after I put her in her crib. :D
Jakker wrote:TBH is Pro-bring Life to GP

User avatar
Typhlochactas
Powerbroker
 
Posts: 9405
Founded: Jul 12, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Typhlochactas » Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:27 am

Keeping in mind that the album with the highest debut for this year is an English folk rock band.

(USA)

User avatar
Meryuma
Postmaster-General
 
Posts: 14922
Founded: Jul 16, 2010
Ex-Nation

Postby Meryuma » Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:28 am

I'm utterly sick of myopic dadrock bullshit here. Let me drop a few theses right here, this shit's mad crucial:

1. Hip-hop is the most culturally relevant genre presently, but not the only one that is popular. There are many 21st century rock groups
2. There is a lot of innovation and lyrical talent in hip-hop, in the underground and (to a lesser extent) the mainstream.
3. You definitely don't know what techno is. Electro house and brostep are popular right now, but techno has always been fairly underground.
4. You probably buy into a falsely dichotomous narrative of popular music based around viewing music of the past as only consisting of commonly-identified classic albums (which often weren't particularly mainstream at the time) with music of the present viewed as only consisting of the top 40. This is caused by a lack of musical exploration.

Bleckonia wrote:
Oterro wrote:No, let me tell you how "this generation" is. There are;

1) the people who listen to whatever music they like and don't really care. they live a happy existence listening to the stuff they hear in the radio. ignorance is bliss.
2) pretentious dorks who know nothing about music and think they know everything. warning signs of these people: mislabelling artists, they like their music "to have meaning", they only listen to "classic rock", their favourite artists are led zeppelin, queen, the beatles, rush or pink floyd, they rant about their generation sucking and the absolute key give away, they were born in the wrong generation

you probably have rubbish taste in rock, too.


Hey!!! I listen only to classic rock, and I honestly don't care if music has meaning or not! I just like the sound. Today's music sucks ass!!!!!!!!!!!

>:(


Name 5 artists whose careers started in the late 90s or 2000s who haven't charted.
Last edited by Meryuma on Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:29 am, edited 1 time in total.
ᛋᛃᚢ - Social Justice Úlfheðinn
Potarius wrote:
Neo Arcad wrote:Gravity is a natural phenomenon by which physical bodies attract with a force proportional to their mass.


In layman's terms, orgy time.


Niur wrote: my soul has no soul.


Saint Clair Island wrote:The English language sucks. From now on, I will refer to the second definition of sexual as "fucktacular."


Trotskylvania wrote:Alternatively, we could go on an epic quest to Plato's Cave to find the legendary artifact, Ockham's Razor.



Norstal wrote:Gunpowder Plot: America.

Meryuma: "Well, I just hope these hyperboles don't...

*puts on sunglasses*

blow out of proportions."

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

...so here's your future

User avatar
Kannap
Khan of Spam
 
Posts: 67465
Founded: May 07, 2012
Democratic Socialists

Postby Kannap » Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:31 am

Honestly, I can listen to about anything without having a serious problem... However my favorite genres are classic rock and country music... and furthermore, I will not be touching rap with a mile-long stick.
Last edited by Kannap on Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:32 am, edited 1 time in total.
Luna Amore wrote:Please remember to attend the ritualistic burning of Kannap for heresy
T H E M O U N T A I N S A R E C A L L I N G A N D I M U S T G O
G A Y S I N C E 1 9 9 7
.::The List of National Sports::.
27 years old, gay demisexual, they/them agnostic, North Carolinian. Pumpkin Spice everything.
TET's resident red panda
Red Panda Network
Jill Stein 2024

User avatar
Meryuma
Postmaster-General
 
Posts: 14922
Founded: Jul 16, 2010
Ex-Nation

Postby Meryuma » Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:35 am

Kannap wrote:Honestly, I can listen to about anything without having a serious problem... However my favorite genres are classic rock and country music... and furthermore, I will not be touching rap with a mile-long stick.


Why?

I used to think I hated rap when I was 11.
ᛋᛃᚢ - Social Justice Úlfheðinn
Potarius wrote:
Neo Arcad wrote:Gravity is a natural phenomenon by which physical bodies attract with a force proportional to their mass.


In layman's terms, orgy time.


Niur wrote: my soul has no soul.


Saint Clair Island wrote:The English language sucks. From now on, I will refer to the second definition of sexual as "fucktacular."


Trotskylvania wrote:Alternatively, we could go on an epic quest to Plato's Cave to find the legendary artifact, Ockham's Razor.



Norstal wrote:Gunpowder Plot: America.

Meryuma: "Well, I just hope these hyperboles don't...

*puts on sunglasses*

blow out of proportions."

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

...so here's your future

User avatar
Zaras
Negotiator
 
Posts: 7415
Founded: Nov 06, 2011
Ex-Nation

Postby Zaras » Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:35 am

Kannap wrote:Honestly, I can listen to about anything without having a serious problem... However my favorite genres are classic rock and country music... and furthermore, I will not be touching rap with a mile-long stick.


Why not? Hip-hop is awesome!
Bythyrona wrote:
Zaras wrote:Democratic People's Republic of Glorious Misty Mountain Hop.
The bat in the middle commemmorates their crushing victory in the bloody Battle of Evermore, where the Communists were saved at the last minute by General "Black Dog" Bonham of the Rock 'n Roll Brigade detonating a levee armed with only four sticks and flooding the enemy encampment. He later retired with honours and went to live in California for the rest of his life before ascending to heaven.

Best post I've seen on NS since I've been here. :clap:
Factbook
RP 1, RP 2, RP 3, RP 4, RP 5
ADS, UDL, GFN member
Political compass (old), Political compass (new)
Bottle, telling it like it is.
Risottia, on lolbertarianism.

User avatar
Zaras
Negotiator
 
Posts: 7415
Founded: Nov 06, 2011
Ex-Nation

Postby Zaras » Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:36 am

Peacelia wrote:I've been noticing now that most kids today are ignoring rock and instead turning to Techno and Hip Hop. What do you think?


I think you need to stop making asinine generalisations that make you sound like a grandpa ranting about the kids on his lawn.
Bythyrona wrote:
Zaras wrote:Democratic People's Republic of Glorious Misty Mountain Hop.
The bat in the middle commemmorates their crushing victory in the bloody Battle of Evermore, where the Communists were saved at the last minute by General "Black Dog" Bonham of the Rock 'n Roll Brigade detonating a levee armed with only four sticks and flooding the enemy encampment. He later retired with honours and went to live in California for the rest of his life before ascending to heaven.

Best post I've seen on NS since I've been here. :clap:
Factbook
RP 1, RP 2, RP 3, RP 4, RP 5
ADS, UDL, GFN member
Political compass (old), Political compass (new)
Bottle, telling it like it is.
Risottia, on lolbertarianism.

User avatar
Oterro
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 16939
Founded: May 01, 2010
Ex-Nation

Postby Oterro » Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:37 am

Bleckonia wrote:Hey!!! I listen only to classic rock, and I honestly don't care if music has meaning or not! I just like the sound. Today's music sucks ass!!!!!!!!!!!

>:(

good thing you don't care about meaning because i can sum up 90% of """""classic""""" rock music lyrically; getting your dick wet and being a drug addict
Phocidaea wrote:There's a tiny bit of techno and hip-hop that's perfectly good. But I agree; there isn't even any "mainstream" rock anymore; rock music has been so pushed out of the mainstream that now pretty much all rock is "alternative".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Foo_Fighters
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Black_Keys
Kannap wrote:Honestly, I can listen to about anything without having a serious problem... However my favorite genres are classic rock and country music... and furthermore, I will not be touching rap with a mile-long stick.

soooooo close minded
Zaras wrote:
Peacelia wrote:I've been noticing now that most kids today are ignoring rock and instead turning to Techno and Hip Hop. What do you think?


I think you need to stop making asinine generalisations that make you sound like a grandpa ranting about the kids on his lawn.

it's more likely he's about 14 mang
Last edited by Oterro on Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:38 am, edited 1 time in total.
we, unlike the bourgeoisie, have nothing to lose and therefore our expression will be the only honest one, our words will be the only challenging ones and our art will be the one revolutionary expression. We need new noise and new voices and new canvases to become something more than the last poets of a useless generation.

User avatar
Zaras
Negotiator
 
Posts: 7415
Founded: Nov 06, 2011
Ex-Nation

Postby Zaras » Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:40 am

Oterro wrote:it's more likely he's about 14 mang


Ugh. I'm 21 and I don't sound this prematurely elderly.

Crap like this sometimes makes me ashamed of what I listen to if it means having anything in common with insufferable types like these. :palm:
Last edited by Zaras on Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:40 am, edited 2 times in total.
Bythyrona wrote:
Zaras wrote:Democratic People's Republic of Glorious Misty Mountain Hop.
The bat in the middle commemmorates their crushing victory in the bloody Battle of Evermore, where the Communists were saved at the last minute by General "Black Dog" Bonham of the Rock 'n Roll Brigade detonating a levee armed with only four sticks and flooding the enemy encampment. He later retired with honours and went to live in California for the rest of his life before ascending to heaven.

Best post I've seen on NS since I've been here. :clap:
Factbook
RP 1, RP 2, RP 3, RP 4, RP 5
ADS, UDL, GFN member
Political compass (old), Political compass (new)
Bottle, telling it like it is.
Risottia, on lolbertarianism.

User avatar
Fedeledland
Senator
 
Posts: 3785
Founded: Mar 27, 2010
Ex-Nation

Postby Fedeledland » Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:47 am

Oterro wrote:
Bleckonia wrote:Hey!!! I listen only to classic rock, and I honestly don't care if music has meaning or not! I just like the sound. Today's music sucks ass!!!!!!!!!!!

>:(

good thing you don't care about meaning because i can sum up 90% of """""classic""""" rock music lyrically; getting your dick wet and being a drug addict


Kannap wrote:Honestly, I can listen to about anything without having a serious problem... However my favorite genres are classic rock and country music... and furthermore, I will not be touching rap with a mile-long stick.

soooooo close minded


Oh the hypocrisy.
Factbook (FanT·FT)
Embassies
Political Info (OOC)
WARNING: My writing might contain amounts of extreme pomp and purple prose. Read at your own caution.
QUE VIVA EL REY!

User avatar
Zaras
Negotiator
 
Posts: 7415
Founded: Nov 06, 2011
Ex-Nation

Postby Zaras » Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:51 am

Fedeledland wrote:
Oterro wrote:good thing you don't care about meaning because i can sum up 90% of """""classic""""" rock music lyrically; getting your dick wet and being a drug addict


soooooo close minded


Oh the hypocrisy.


What hypocrisy? Classic rock's shallow lyricism is a fact regardless of whether you like it or not. Hell, I like classic rock, and even I think it could stand to talk about more stuff than sticking dicks in things and sticking needles in arms.
Bythyrona wrote:
Zaras wrote:Democratic People's Republic of Glorious Misty Mountain Hop.
The bat in the middle commemmorates their crushing victory in the bloody Battle of Evermore, where the Communists were saved at the last minute by General "Black Dog" Bonham of the Rock 'n Roll Brigade detonating a levee armed with only four sticks and flooding the enemy encampment. He later retired with honours and went to live in California for the rest of his life before ascending to heaven.

Best post I've seen on NS since I've been here. :clap:
Factbook
RP 1, RP 2, RP 3, RP 4, RP 5
ADS, UDL, GFN member
Political compass (old), Political compass (new)
Bottle, telling it like it is.
Risottia, on lolbertarianism.

User avatar
Meryuma
Postmaster-General
 
Posts: 14922
Founded: Jul 16, 2010
Ex-Nation

Postby Meryuma » Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:52 am

Fedeledland wrote:
Oterro wrote:Honestly, I can listen to about anything without having a serious problem... However my favorite genres are classic rock and country music... and furthermore, I will not be touching rap with a mile-long stick.

soooooo close minded


Oh the hypocrisy.[/quote]

whaaat

not refusing to listen to a vast, diverse genre with a 30+ year history based on stereotypes = being closed minded, apparently

Seriously, listen to Oterro. His heart is in the right place, and he used to be in the same position as you.
ᛋᛃᚢ - Social Justice Úlfheðinn
Potarius wrote:
Neo Arcad wrote:Gravity is a natural phenomenon by which physical bodies attract with a force proportional to their mass.


In layman's terms, orgy time.


Niur wrote: my soul has no soul.


Saint Clair Island wrote:The English language sucks. From now on, I will refer to the second definition of sexual as "fucktacular."


Trotskylvania wrote:Alternatively, we could go on an epic quest to Plato's Cave to find the legendary artifact, Ockham's Razor.



Norstal wrote:Gunpowder Plot: America.

Meryuma: "Well, I just hope these hyperboles don't...

*puts on sunglasses*

blow out of proportions."

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

...so here's your future

User avatar
Oterro
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 16939
Founded: May 01, 2010
Ex-Nation

Postby Oterro » Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:52 am

Fedeledland wrote:Oh the hypocrisy.

lmao what? i could add in pedophilia if you want me to

"classic rock" is for the most part a shallow and hyper commercialised "genre"

note, "'s used to denote that it's not actually a genre so much as a vague term used to group a bunch of musicians of different genres
Last edited by Oterro on Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:54 am, edited 1 time in total.
we, unlike the bourgeoisie, have nothing to lose and therefore our expression will be the only honest one, our words will be the only challenging ones and our art will be the one revolutionary expression. We need new noise and new voices and new canvases to become something more than the last poets of a useless generation.

User avatar
Zaras
Negotiator
 
Posts: 7415
Founded: Nov 06, 2011
Ex-Nation

Postby Zaras » Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:58 am

Oterro wrote:"classic rock" is for the most part a shallow and hyper commercialised "genre"


This is actually the part that I'm angrier about - hyper-commercialisation that ends up turning millions of people off classic rock's good qualities and reducing it to an exaggerated caricature of itself.
Bythyrona wrote:
Zaras wrote:Democratic People's Republic of Glorious Misty Mountain Hop.
The bat in the middle commemmorates their crushing victory in the bloody Battle of Evermore, where the Communists were saved at the last minute by General "Black Dog" Bonham of the Rock 'n Roll Brigade detonating a levee armed with only four sticks and flooding the enemy encampment. He later retired with honours and went to live in California for the rest of his life before ascending to heaven.

Best post I've seen on NS since I've been here. :clap:
Factbook
RP 1, RP 2, RP 3, RP 4, RP 5
ADS, UDL, GFN member
Political compass (old), Political compass (new)
Bottle, telling it like it is.
Risottia, on lolbertarianism.

Next

Advertisement

Remove ads

Return to Arts & Fiction

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: East Leaf Republic

Advertisement

Remove ads