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Postby New Genoa » Thu Oct 04, 2012 9:00 am

I've played Crusader Kings I and liked it. I like the building up of dynasties and political maneuvering. CKII looks better obviously, but I haven't bought it yet.
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Postby Melas » Thu Oct 04, 2012 1:02 pm

Just for the record mount and blade is just published from Paradx not developed
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Postby New Sapienta » Thu Oct 04, 2012 1:37 pm

Oterro wrote:
Murgoth wrote:Crusader kings 2 was the best game ever and it's published by paradox.

Mount and Blade, without mods, is a mess of grinding and failure.

crusader kings is asperger's the game

if you have to grind in mount and blade you probably just suck at video games
New Sapienta wrote:Please explain.

I'm sure your games are so enlightening and intelligent, we should bow before your wisdom.
what even is the point in posting if you're going to make shit arguments like that

yes, video games, that peak of human artistic enlightenment; bastions of intelligence, emotion and enlightenment.

fun? what's that?

Fun

I was making fun of yoru snobbish attitude, not saying video games are the height of civilization.


Anyway, for the comment above, if you're saying all people who play CK 2 are socially inept, well then, the exact same can be said of the JRPG players, or, hell, RPGs period if we're using sterotypes like you are.

If that's not what you mean, I have no idea what you mean.

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Postby Conserative Morality » Thu Oct 04, 2012 1:41 pm

Oterro wrote:what even is the point in posting if you're going to make shit arguments like that

yes, video games, that peak of human artistic enlightenment; bastions of intelligence, emotion and enlightenment.

fun? what's that?

Someone lacks appreciation for new mediums.
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Postby Oterro » Thu Oct 04, 2012 2:29 pm

Melas wrote:Just for the record mount and blade is just published from Paradx not developed

yeah i know

i wonder if they'll publish the sequel, i hope so!
New Sapienta wrote:Fun

I was making fun of yoru snobbish attitude, not saying video games are the height of civilization.
my snobbish attitude is a beautiful young woman you leave her alone
New Sapienta wrote:Anyway, for the comment above, if you're saying all people who play CK 2 are socially inept, well then, the exact same can be said of the JRPG players, or, hell, RPGs period if we're using sterotypes like you are.

If that's not what you mean, I have no idea what you mean.

well JRPG players have a tendency of being socially inept for a whole bunch of other reasons but it was more a joke based around the fact that grand strategy mechanics can seem herculean for those not accustomed to them
Conserative Morality wrote:Someone lacks appreciation for new mediums.

Spoilers, it's me.
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Fri Oct 05, 2012 7:59 am

Oterro wrote:
Melas wrote:Just for the record mount and blade is just published from Paradx not developed

yeah i know

i wonder if they'll publish the sequel, i hope so!
New Sapienta wrote:Fun

I was making fun of yoru snobbish attitude, not saying video games are the height of civilization.
my snobbish attitude is a beautiful young woman you leave her alone
New Sapienta wrote:Anyway, for the comment above, if you're saying all people who play CK 2 are socially inept, well then, the exact same can be said of the JRPG players, or, hell, RPGs period if we're using sterotypes like you are.

If that's not what you mean, I have no idea what you mean.

well JRPG players have a tendency of being socially inept for a whole bunch of other reasons but it was more a joke based around the fact that grand strategy mechanics can seem herculean for those not accustomed to them
Conserative Morality wrote:Someone lacks appreciation for new mediums.

Spoilers, it's me.


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Postby Murgoth » Fri Oct 05, 2012 12:07 pm

Oterro wrote:
Murgoth wrote:Crusader kings 2 was the best game ever and it's published by paradox.

Mount and Blade, without mods, is a mess of grinding and failure.

crusader kings is asperger's the game

if you have to grind in mount and blade you probably just suck at video games


wow... that managed to explain even less then my post. that managed to explain even less than the post I was responding too.
even with your explanation, your Aspergers reference makes even less sense. Is it that you need to be mentally ill to play it? that the game itself is crippled socially in some manner? that the game is mentally ill? and did you actually agree that those that play JRPG's are socially inept? could you explain anything?
also, why would grinding imply that I am bad at Mount and Blade? Even if it does, does that apply to the argument against your general snobbery? Why would my being bad at one game imply my inability to play other games?
so many questions. so few answers.
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Postby Oterro » Fri Oct 05, 2012 12:12 pm

Murgoth wrote:wow... that managed to explain even less then my post. that managed to explain even less than the post I was responding too.
even with your explanation, your Aspergers reference makes even less sense. Is it that you need to be mentally ill to play it? that the game itself is crippled socially in some manner? that the game is mentally ill? and did you actually agree that those that play JRPG's are socially inept? could you explain anything?
also, why would grinding imply that I am bad at Mount and Blade? Even if it does, does that apply to the argument against your general snobbery? Why would my being bad at one game imply my inability to play other games?
so many questions. so few answers.

i don't know if there's much point in responding to you if you haven't grasped the most basic of concepts, hyperbole, but i'll damn well try anyway

beyond the ''points'' you've made in response which stem merely from your own lack of contextual reading skill:
i have no idea why anyone would need to grind in mount and blade unless they were so bad they needed to min/max

and nope that's all i can actually find worthy of any salt
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Postby Murgoth » Fri Oct 05, 2012 12:31 pm

Oterro wrote:
Murgoth wrote:wow... that managed to explain even less then my post. that managed to explain even less than the post I was responding too.
even with your explanation, your Aspergers reference makes even less sense. Is it that you need to be mentally ill to play it? that the game itself is crippled socially in some manner? that the game is mentally ill? and did you actually agree that those that play JRPG's are socially inept? could you explain anything?
also, why would grinding imply that I am bad at Mount and Blade? Even if it does, does that apply to the argument against your general snobbery? Why would my being bad at one game imply my inability to play other games?
so many questions. so few answers.

i don't know if there's much point in responding to you if you haven't grasped the most basic of concepts, hyperbole, but i'll damn well try anyway

beyond the ''points'' you've made in response which stem merely from your own lack of contextual reading skill:
i have no idea why anyone would need to grind in mount and blade unless they were so bad they needed to min/max

and nope that's all i can actually find worthy of any salt


okay. good. you answered one of my questions. you beleive that Mount and Blade does not require high levels in game, and should be playable and enjoyable even at early levels. I can respect that. I always enjoyed the game more at higher levels, but can see that the lower levels can be equally fun, and how one could easily play through the game without levelling to much.

however, that does not answer the rest of the questions. if my lack of understanding of the aspergers joke is due to a lack of contextual reading skills, I suppose New Sapienta is equally afflicted. it also does not answer the connection between whatever skill I have in mount and blade, and my skill in video games in general.

still, thanks for answering the question. It is a good counter-argument.
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Postby Alcia » Fri Oct 05, 2012 1:28 pm

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Postby Murgoth » Fri Oct 05, 2012 3:35 pm

Alcia wrote:Vicky 2 + Random Nation Generator mod = insanity


i've never tried the game or the random feature, but it sounds interesting. do the nations created relate to the demographics on the map, or are those placed randomly as well? making a bunch of austria-hungaries would be insane indeed.
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Mon Oct 08, 2012 5:47 pm

Murgoth wrote:
Oterro wrote:i don't know if there's much point in responding to you if you haven't grasped the most basic of concepts, hyperbole, but i'll damn well try anyway

beyond the ''points'' you've made in response which stem merely from your own lack of contextual reading skill:
i have no idea why anyone would need to grind in mount and blade unless they were so bad they needed to min/max

and nope that's all i can actually find worthy of any salt


okay. good. you answered one of my questions. you beleive that Mount and Blade does not require high levels in game, and should be playable and enjoyable even at early levels. I can respect that. I always enjoyed the game more at higher levels, but can see that the lower levels can be equally fun, and how one could easily play through the game without levelling to much.

however, that does not answer the rest of the questions. if my lack of understanding of the aspergers joke is due to a lack of contextual reading skills, I suppose New Sapienta is equally afflicted. it also does not answer the connection between whatever skill I have in mount and blade, and my skill in video games in general.

still, thanks for answering the question. It is a good counter-argument.


Maybe he thinks that's how people with aspergers view the world.
As a series of stats, charts, and interpersonal relationships can be reduced to a numeric system and Also muslims are evil.
Jeez, I hope thats not what he meant.
Like, playing the game is somehow a simulation of what it would be like to have aspergers
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Postby Melas » Fri Oct 12, 2012 3:32 am

So,I have ck2 and all dlc 1.6b is anyone in for a MP game? I mean we have lots of people here why dont we organise one?
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Postby Melas » Fri Oct 12, 2012 11:05 am

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Bralia wrote:
Melas wrote:no matter what,since tentacles are involved,I have already seen enough hentai to know where this is going

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Postby Oceanic Vakiadia » Fri Oct 12, 2012 8:35 pm

Crusader Kings 2 is quite nice, but Europa Universalis 3 is superior.

My comp can't handle Vicky 2 and I haven't gotten into HOI 2 yet.
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Postby Pribram » Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:14 am

HoI3 is great but, i hate that if you create a puppet state it will have same ruling party, same head of state, same ministers etc... in fact all things are the same....

Vicky 2 is better in this area!And those flags awesome!
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Postby Alcia » Sat Oct 13, 2012 3:15 pm

Murgoth wrote:
Alcia wrote:Vicky 2 + Random Nation Generator mod = insanity


i've never tried the game or the random feature, but it sounds interesting. do the nations created relate to the demographics on the map, or are those placed randomly as well? making a bunch of austria-hungaries would be insane indeed.

No. it makes up random cultures, nation names, province names, places different resourses at different places, random flags, random prestige and the other stuff, and regions/region names. So it would make stuff such as "Yarunegrad Union", or "Agritium".
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Postby Karma Pyjamas » Sun Oct 14, 2012 3:11 am

I like basically all of them really. On a CK2 bender at the moment - the Roman Empire will rise again!

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Postby Melas » Sun Oct 14, 2012 6:16 am

Karma Pyjamas wrote:I like basically all of them really. On a CK2 bender at the moment - the Roman Empire will rise again!


Yeah can not wait for LoR
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Postby Warshania » Sun Oct 14, 2012 9:55 am

I am in love with EU3. Still on the first playthrough with the noob-friendly Castille and like everything about this game. For those who play the unmodded EU3, try MEIOU, it's amazing.
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Postby Priory Academy USSR » Sun Oct 14, 2012 3:02 pm

Warshania wrote:I am in love with EU3. Still on the first playthrough with the noob-friendly Castille and like everything about this game. For those who play the unmodded EU3, try MEIOU, it's amazing.


Meh. I don't think Castille is particularly noob friendly-I keep on getting invaded by France by around 1500, and lose pretty badly. Well, that was a while ago, now I've got a Russia about the size and scale of the Soviet Union :twisted:
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Postby Warshania » Mon Oct 15, 2012 12:53 am

Priory Academy USSR wrote:
Warshania wrote:I am in love with EU3. Still on the first playthrough with the noob-friendly Castille and like everything about this game. For those who play the unmodded EU3, try MEIOU, it's amazing.


Meh. I don't think Castille is particularly noob friendly-I keep on getting invaded by France by around 1500, and lose pretty badly. Well, that was a while ago, now I've got a Russia about the size and scale of the Soviet Union :twisted:


In ~1550 France sent me alliance request. I was letting their troops move to my nation and vice versa and had a royal marriage with them as well. But yeah, if the big blue blop decides to declare war on you, you are screwed. Last time I played, France was in war with 396739 nations and still didn't bother calling me for help.

I assume Paradox made France overpowered in purpose, because in RL Europe had to form a large alliance of nations to fight back the ever-growing France.

Castille is probably the easiest nation around there, because you can use Portugal and Navarra to destroy Granada and later Aragon. You also don't have many nations bordering you.
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