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Postby Marsisian » Sun Apr 13, 2014 2:47 pm

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Marsisian wrote:Thinking of getting Victoria 2. What's a good starting nation?


Brazil is often said to be a good starting point to get the hang of the game, it's a civilized nation that's localized and you can focus in South America. If you start as a great power, particularly the UK, you'll find your attention being drawn off to several places which is annoying when playing a new paradox game.

Uncivilized nations are something you want when you've got the hang of civilized nations.

Hmm. Brazil sounds good.
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Postby Zhaipan » Sun Apr 13, 2014 2:49 pm

Marsisian wrote:Thinking of getting Victoria 2. What's a good starting nation?

Whatever you do do not play as Russia
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Postby Ruridova » Sun Apr 13, 2014 2:52 pm

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Ruridova wrote:Conquer the world as Sikkim. *nods*

:meh:

Sikkim is a single-province non-Westernized British vassal in India. Compared to Sikkim, Bhutan and Nepal are powerful nations.

I actually rather enjoyed playing as Bavaria, China, and Brazil. I've also used the 'release nation' function to play as Scotland, Ukraine, and the Confederacy. All fun.
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Postby Marcurix » Sun Apr 13, 2014 2:56 pm

Marsisian wrote:
Marcurix wrote:
Brazil is often said to be a good starting point to get the hang of the game, it's a civilized nation that's localized and you can focus in South America. If you start as a great power, particularly the UK, you'll find your attention being drawn off to several places which is annoying when playing a new paradox game.

Uncivilized nations are something you want when you've got the hang of civilized nations.

Hmm. Brazil sounds good.


It's in a good position, and the only great power you have to contend with is the USA eventually. Though they're usually busy with Mexico until they get their modern borders.

Brazil has some claims on territory of neighboring nations, so there's combat experience without the infamy gain. It's population isn't all that great at the start but it can grow rapidly mid to late game, you can try for the S. Atlantic islands for a colony and so on so its a pretty solid choice for getting a taste of much of the game.
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Postby Bojikami » Sun Apr 13, 2014 3:00 pm

Marsisian wrote:Thinking of getting Victoria 2. What's a good starting nation?

Belgium was mine. It has a good size, easy to manage, and depending on how you play, easy to expand.
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Postby Marsisian » Sun Apr 13, 2014 3:01 pm

What's a good Great Power to play after you get the hang of the game?
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Postby Bojikami » Sun Apr 13, 2014 3:02 pm

Marsisian wrote:What's a good Great Power to play after you get the hang of the game?

Russia. (Obvious nationalist bias)

But to be more serious, probably like America or Prussia.
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Postby Zhaipan » Sun Apr 13, 2014 3:04 pm

Bojikami wrote:
Marsisian wrote:What's a good Great Power to play after you get the hang of the game?

Russia. (Obvious nationalist bias)

But to be more serious, probably like America or Prussia.

Russia has one of the lowest literacy rates
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Postby Marsisian » Sun Apr 13, 2014 3:04 pm

Bojikami wrote:
Marsisian wrote:What's a good Great Power to play after you get the hang of the game?

Russia. (Obvious nationalist bias)

But to be more serious, probably like America or Prussia.

Prussia seems promising. Can you form the German Empire?
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Postby Zhaipan » Sun Apr 13, 2014 3:04 pm

Marsisian wrote:
Bojikami wrote:Russia. (Obvious nationalist bias)

But to be more serious, probably like America or Prussia.

Prussia seems promising. Can you form the German Empire?

Yes you can
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Postby Marsisian » Sun Apr 13, 2014 3:04 pm

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Marsisian wrote:Prussia seems promising. Can you form the German Empire?

Yes you can

Wow.
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Postby Bojikami » Sun Apr 13, 2014 3:05 pm

Marsisian wrote:
Bojikami wrote:Russia. (Obvious nationalist bias)

But to be more serious, probably like America or Prussia.

Prussia seems promising. Can you form the German Empire?

Yes. That is what makes it fun.
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Postby Zhaipan » Sun Apr 13, 2014 3:05 pm

Marsisian wrote:
Zhaipan wrote:Yes you can

Wow.

You have to go to war with Austria and France though
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Postby Bojikami » Sun Apr 13, 2014 3:06 pm

Zhaipan wrote:
Bojikami wrote:Russia. (Obvious nationalist bias)

But to be more serious, probably like America or Prussia.

Russia has one of the lowest literacy rates

That is a problem. Though turning soviet seemed to fix it for me.
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Postby Zhaipan » Sun Apr 13, 2014 3:07 pm

Bojikami wrote:
Zhaipan wrote:Russia has one of the lowest literacy rates

That is a problem. Though turning soviet seemed to fix it for me.

Soviet Russia seems to fix everything. Except Belarus
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Postby Bojikami » Sun Apr 13, 2014 3:11 pm

Zhaipan wrote:
Bojikami wrote:That is a problem. Though turning soviet seemed to fix it for me.

Soviet Russia seems to fix everything. Except Belarus

I actually prioritise my industrialisation in places like Belarus and Ukraine. Mostly because they tend to border my enemies.
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Postby Zhaipan » Sun Apr 13, 2014 3:12 pm

Bojikami wrote:
Zhaipan wrote:Soviet Russia seems to fix everything. Except Belarus

I actually prioritise my industrialisation in places like Belarus and Ukraine. Mostly because they tend to border my enemies.

I meant in real life
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Postby Ruridova » Sun Apr 13, 2014 3:13 pm

Bojikami wrote:
Marsisian wrote:Thinking of getting Victoria 2. What's a good starting nation?

Belgium was mine. It has a good size, easy to manage, and depending on how you play, easy to expand.

Lel, Belgium

I'd prefer to play as the Netherlands and then conquer Belgium and Luxembourg
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Postby Marsisian » Sun Apr 13, 2014 3:13 pm

I'm probably going to form Italy and go to war with a bunch of people.
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Postby Bojikami » Sun Apr 13, 2014 3:13 pm

Zhaipan wrote:
Bojikami wrote:I actually prioritise my industrialisation in places like Belarus and Ukraine. Mostly because they tend to border my enemies.

I meant in real life

Oh. Well, I suppose not much. Stalin and most of the people after him were kind of cocks. I say this as a communist Russian.
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Postby Zhaipan » Sun Apr 13, 2014 3:15 pm

Marsisian wrote:I'm probably going to form Italy and go to war with a bunch of people.

It's quite hard as a beginner
Bojikami wrote:
Zhaipan wrote:I meant in real life

Oh. Well, I suppose not much. Stalin and most of the people after him were kind of cocks. I say this as a communist Russian.
I meant the current situation
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Postby Bojikami » Sun Apr 13, 2014 3:16 pm

Ruridova wrote:
Bojikami wrote:Belgium was mine. It has a good size, easy to manage, and depending on how you play, easy to expand.

Lel, Belgium

I'd prefer to play as the Netherlands and then conquer Belgium and Luxembourg

To this day my favorite playthrough was either communist Byzantium or my USSR WC.
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Postby Marsisian » Sun Apr 13, 2014 3:16 pm

Zhaipan wrote:
Marsisian wrote:I'm probably going to form Italy and go to war with a bunch of people.

It's quite hard as a beginner
Bojikami wrote:Oh. Well, I suppose not much. Stalin and most of the people after him were kind of cocks. I say this as a communist Russian.
I meant the current situation

Well, I meant after I will play as Brazil.
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Postby Zhaipan » Sun Apr 13, 2014 3:16 pm

Marsisian wrote:
Zhaipan wrote:It's quite hard as a beginner I meant the current situation

Well, I meant after I played as Brazil.

Ah ok
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Postby Bojikami » Sun Apr 13, 2014 3:17 pm

Zhaipan wrote:
Marsisian wrote:I'm probably going to form Italy and go to war with a bunch of people.

It's quite hard as a beginner
Bojikami wrote:Oh. Well, I suppose not much. Stalin and most of the people after him were kind of cocks. I say this as a communist Russian.
I meant the current situation

Not much. Again, because of an incompetent leader.
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