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Postby Herskerstad » Fri Feb 22, 2013 1:29 am

Dorlania wrote:also when i was playing as austria-hungary

i had a growth of -0.00 manpower

how


Migrations, famines, potato blights. It's not uncommon. If you are speaking for the army, well, taxing the lower class to death generally ensures most of the citizens do not promote to soldier.
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Postby Dorlania » Fri Feb 22, 2013 7:20 am

Herskerstad wrote:
Dorlania wrote:also when i was playing as austria-hungary

i had a growth of -0.00 manpower

how


Migrations, famines, potato blights. It's not uncommon. If you are speaking for the army, well, taxing the lower class to death generally ensures most of the citizens do not promote to soldier.

that was part of my cash flow ;~;
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:34 am

Right its March 1939 in my HOI3 run as the Czechs, and im part of the allies, which i believe cancels out the german annexation of Czechoslovakia, my army is a decent size, around 50 odd divisions, made up of primarily anti tank and infantry brigades and several armour along the north east and the south, while the german equivalent is something around 200+. No air force... that's a problem but i could not afford to make any planes, it was draining my ic too much. 20 ic per interceptor run so i had to abandon it to make more land units.

Unity is up to 79, officer ration near 93% and my forces are arranged around what would be modern czech republic, if i covered Slovakia as well it would have been stretched too thin so i had to give them up, the defensive line around the german border is key so the entire eastern half of the country is defenseless.

If the events are cancelled out( i believe they are considering the date) i should end up in war with Germany come September when they invade Poland. All things considered im probably still going to lose unless the french can push through across the Maginot line, so it looks like Government in Exile in the longrun. Thoughts on my chances of survival in a frontal war?
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Fri Feb 22, 2013 2:00 pm

Yeah that campaign did not last long, 45 days, all of September and the first 15 days of October. The final 15 days i spent locked in a bloody urban battle against the combined armies of Germany, Hungary and Italy. Did well at the start and defeated several german attacks, even counter attacked three german divisions in the south and beat them back with only infantry. Did a number on the Hungarians beating them back alot before the germans assisted them with tanks. But in the end i failed to hold the line.

Government in Exile seems fun.
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Postby Ceannairceach » Fri Feb 22, 2013 2:02 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:Yeah that campaign did not last long, 45 days, all of September and the first 15 days of October. The final 15 days i spent locked in a bloody urban battle against the combined armies of Germany, Hungary and Italy. Did well at the start and defeated several german attacks, even counter attacked three german divisions in the south and beat them back with only infantry. Did a number on the Hungarians beating them back alot before the germans assisted them with tanks. But in the end i failed to hold the line.

Government in Exile seems fun.

How does being a government in exile work in HoI3? I've never played, but the idea seems interesting. I might be picking up the game sooner or later.

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Fri Feb 22, 2013 2:06 pm

Ceannairceach wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Yeah that campaign did not last long, 45 days, all of September and the first 15 days of October. The final 15 days i spent locked in a bloody urban battle against the combined armies of Germany, Hungary and Italy. Did well at the start and defeated several german attacks, even counter attacked three german divisions in the south and beat them back with only infantry. Did a number on the Hungarians beating them back alot before the germans assisted them with tanks. But in the end i failed to hold the line.

Government in Exile seems fun.

How does being a government in exile work in HoI3? I've never played, but the idea seems interesting. I might be picking up the game sooner or later.

Your government flees to the head of your alliances capital and takes refuge, your territory is then just occupied by the enemy instead of outright annexed. You can then build underground resistance movements and deploy them in your occupied territory to hamper the enemies occupation and retake some land, and i also believe you can build actual military units and deploy them in allied nations to help with the war effort on other fronts. If an allied nation arrives in your occupied territory and retakes it they can liberate you as an independent nation once again.

I also think if another alliances nation(the one you are not at war with, i.e the sov and their alliance) takes over your territory, they can liberate you on their side so Czechoslovakia would turn from allies to Comintern.
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Postby Ceannairceach » Fri Feb 22, 2013 2:08 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Ceannairceach wrote:How does being a government in exile work in HoI3? I've never played, but the idea seems interesting. I might be picking up the game sooner or later.

Your government flees to the head of your alliances capital and takes refuge, your territory is then just occupied by the enemy instead of outright annexed. You can then build underground resistance movements and deploy them in your occupied territory to hamper the enemies occupation and retake some land, and i also believe you can build actual military units and deploy them in allied nations to help with the war effort on other fronts. If an allied nation arrives in your occupied territory and retakes it they can liberate you as an independent nation once again.

I also think if another alliances nation(the one you are not at war with, i.e the sov and their alliance) they can liberate you on their side so Czechoslovakia would turn from allies to Comintern.

Interesting. That makes the game much more interesting to me. I never like playing as the superpowers, but I thought that playing as one of the lesser nations was essentially suicide a la Abyssinia.

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Fri Feb 22, 2013 3:42 pm

Ceannairceach wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Your government flees to the head of your alliances capital and takes refuge, your territory is then just occupied by the enemy instead of outright annexed. You can then build underground resistance movements and deploy them in your occupied territory to hamper the enemies occupation and retake some land, and i also believe you can build actual military units and deploy them in allied nations to help with the war effort on other fronts. If an allied nation arrives in your occupied territory and retakes it they can liberate you as an independent nation once again.

I also think if another alliances nation(the one you are not at war with, i.e the sov and their alliance) they can liberate you on their side so Czechoslovakia would turn from allies to Comintern.

Interesting. That makes the game much more interesting to me. I never like playing as the superpowers, but I thought that playing as one of the lesser nations was essentially suicide a la Abyssinia.
It is an interesting concept, i only used resistance forces in my first soviet game to distract the Germans before i launched my offensive to drive them from the front lines i had set up along the western rivers, worked really well, even captured some parts of Poland with them which caused the Germans to pull back a lot of troops which led to a really bad outcome for them when i attacked. So it will be fun to toy around with them as a Government in Exile, the only problem is you have so little IC you can only build one continuous run of either resistance or actual military units at an effective speed.
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Postby Isolated China » Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:54 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:It is an interesting concept, i only used resistance forces in my first soviet game to distract the Germans before i launched my offensive to drive them from the front lines i had set up along the western rivers, worked really well, even captured some parts of Poland with them which caused the Germans to pull back a lot of troops which led to a really bad outcome for them when i attacked. So it will be fun to toy around with them as a Government in Exile, the only problem is you have so little IC you can only build one continuous run of either resistance or actual military units at an effective speed.

How'd you build military units? I decided to be Poland, and it repeatedly tells me I am unable to build anything, and any resources I get immediately get sucked away to the British. Greedy bastards, taking vital Polish resources along with Lend-Lease shipments!
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sat Feb 23, 2013 3:52 am

Isolated China wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:It is an interesting concept, i only used resistance forces in my first soviet game to distract the Germans before i launched my offensive to drive them from the front lines i had set up along the western rivers, worked really well, even captured some parts of Poland with them which caused the Germans to pull back a lot of troops which led to a really bad outcome for them when i attacked. So it will be fun to toy around with them as a Government in Exile, the only problem is you have so little IC you can only build one continuous run of either resistance or actual military units at an effective speed.

How'd you build military units? I decided to be Poland, and it repeatedly tells me I am unable to build anything, and any resources I get immediately get sucked away to the British. Greedy bastards, taking vital Polish resources along with Lend-Lease shipments!

I can produce a single production run of a division of two brigades, infantry and militia. Ive got one being built now as a government in exile but i dont know if i can place it in an allied nation, im just speculating at this part as i am able to build them, but i may not be able to place them.
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Postby Communist Wollongong » Sat Feb 23, 2013 9:06 am

Does anyone here own crusader kings 2?
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Postby Jetan » Sat Feb 23, 2013 9:44 am

Communist Wollongong wrote:Does anyone here own crusader kings 2?

Yes.
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Postby Garwall » Sat Feb 23, 2013 10:27 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Isolated China wrote:How'd you build military units? I decided to be Poland, and it repeatedly tells me I am unable to build anything, and any resources I get immediately get sucked away to the British. Greedy bastards, taking vital Polish resources along with Lend-Lease shipments!

I can produce a single production run of a division of two brigades, infantry and militia. Ive got one being built now as a government in exile but i dont know if i can place it in an allied nation, im just speculating at this part as i am able to build them, but i may not be able to place them.


Can you stockpile your resistance units, and unleash them all at once at a later date in a mass uprising? That would make playing a Government-in-exile worth it for me.
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Postby Ceannairceach » Sat Feb 23, 2013 10:31 am

Communist Wollongong wrote:Does anyone here own crusader kings 2?

Indeedly.

Apparently, having a Cathar Brittany fight its way into control of half of France gives the Rurikovich time to usurp the Byzantine Empire from the Doukas.

I'm not quite so sure how, though. One minute the Byzantines were dying from the Seljuk invasion, and suddenly Princess Eirene(spelling?) took power with the power of Rostov behind her.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sat Feb 23, 2013 10:36 am

Garwall wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:I can produce a single production run of a division of two brigades, infantry and militia. Ive got one being built now as a government in exile but i dont know if i can place it in an allied nation, im just speculating at this part as i am able to build them, but i may not be able to place them.


Can you stockpile your resistance units, and unleash them all at once at a later date in a mass uprising? That would make playing a Government-in-exile worth it for me.

Yeah, you can deploy them like normal military units, just in occupied territory. For example, When i was playing my first sov game, i built around 30 or so while i was preparing my main offensive to encircle a large portion of the German and Italian armies in Belarus. I deployed them all at once behind the axis lines in the target area, and when the enemy moved to attack the militia units that spawned i launched my attack at their weakened areas along the front.
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Postby Communist Wollongong » Sat Feb 23, 2013 11:18 pm

Ceannairceach wrote:
Communist Wollongong wrote:Does anyone here own crusader kings 2?

Indeedly.

Apparently, having a Cathar Brittany fight its way into control of half of France gives the Rurikovich time to usurp the Byzantine Empire from the Doukas.

I'm not quite so sure how, though. One minute the Byzantines were dying from the Seljuk invasion, and suddenly Princess Eirene(spelling?) took power with the power of Rostov behind her.

Nice. I created myself on it and I am Emperor of Scandivia. My son is now destroying the HRE. Somehow in all the mix, the kingdoms of Perm, Wales and Ireland was formed.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sun Feb 24, 2013 4:45 am

February 1940 Czech campaign:

France has fallen, but not from the north through Belgium, but from the south, the Germans launched an ungodly massive armoured assault through Italy and surrounded the French army along the Maginot line before conquering the country and creating Vichy France. Then they invaded Denmark, Netherlands, Norway and Belgium(Norway is the only one left) The Italians who originally lost Libya to a massive French and British Assault have retaken it and are capturing lots of Egyptian territory, and they are also winning in the horn of Africa but allied reinforcements are arriving. Japan declared war on the allies and has invaded Indonesia and the islands surrounding it.

On a positive note the first forces of the Free Czechoslovakian Army have been created in Coventry, one division of 6000 men, 3000 infantry and 3000 militia with another 3000 infantry on the way, then it will be handed off to the British to use in their campaigns while i build partisans up in my deployment bar and build another couple of divisions for later use.
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Postby Napkiraly » Sun Feb 24, 2013 4:49 am

Currently at war with those French bastards. It's going...okay.

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sun Feb 24, 2013 4:53 am

Napkiraly wrote:Currently at war with those French bastards. It's going...okay.

Details man Details. I would like to know more of your campaign.
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Postby Napkiraly » Sun Feb 24, 2013 5:07 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:Currently at war with those French bastards. It's going...okay.

Details man Details. I would like to know more of your campaign.

Well, I managed to nearly conquer all of Iberia, including the Portuguese bit because why not. Then I took part in a crusade and helped the Kingdom of Jerusalem and managed to make one of my brothers the King. Secured a marriage with the Princess of England so I have them on my side.

The war with France started when I tried finishing of Aragon and the French came to their aid due to an alliance. I was able to conquer Aragon and go deep into France. One army of 10000 into southern France towards the Marseille area and a 16000 strong army getting into shenanigans in Aquitaine and Bordeaux areas. The English were getting into shenanigans up north so this divided the French army.

Unfortunately my 10000 army got hit with a sickness during its campaign and then lost a series of battles that greatly reduced their strength. So I had to pull them back to regroup.

After about 12 years the English made peace which brought the French army full force on me. I left a small vanguard of about 3500 to draw away some forces as I retreaded south. Then I was able to regroup with my Marseille campaign army and together we held off the French army, though both sides took massive losses, unfortunately they were able to retake one of the Aragon regions I had conquered. I only won due to terrain and defensive bonuses.

Right now both sides are kinda just launching small raids against each other. It's practically a stalemate and I've sent my spy to try and start raising trouble with the barons. Hopefully that pulls through. Hoping to achieve peace soon.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sun Feb 24, 2013 5:09 am

Napkiraly wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Details man Details. I would like to know more of your campaign.

Well, I managed to nearly conquer all of Iberia, including the Portuguese bit because why not. Then I took part in a crusade and helped the Kingdom of Jerusalem and managed to make one of my brothers the King. Secured a marriage with the Princess of England so I have them on my side.

The war with France started when I tried finishing of Aragon and the French came to their aid due to an alliance. I was able to conquer Aragon and go deep into France. One army of 10000 into southern France towards the Marseille area and a 16000 strong army getting into shenanigans in Aquitaine and Bordeaux areas. The English were getting into shenanigans up north so this divided the French army.

Unfortunately my 10000 army got hit with a sickness during its campaign and then lost a series of battles that greatly reduced their strength. So I had to pull them back to regroup.

After about 12 years the English made peace which brought the French army full force on me. I left a small vanguard of about 3500 to draw away some forces as I retreaded south. Then I was able to regroup with my Marseille campaign army and together we held off the French army, though both sides took massive losses, unfortunately they were able to retake one of the Aragon regions I had conquered. I only won due to terrain and defensive bonuses.

Right now both sides are kinda just launching small raids against each other. It's practically a stalemate and I've sent my spy to try and start raising trouble with the barons. Hopefully that pulls through. Hoping to achieve peace soon.
Tough War, who are you playing as?
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Postby Napkiraly » Sun Feb 24, 2013 5:11 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:Well, I managed to nearly conquer all of Iberia, including the Portuguese bit because why not. Then I took part in a crusade and helped the Kingdom of Jerusalem and managed to make one of my brothers the King. Secured a marriage with the Princess of England so I have them on my side.

The war with France started when I tried finishing of Aragon and the French came to their aid due to an alliance. I was able to conquer Aragon and go deep into France. One army of 10000 into southern France towards the Marseille area and a 16000 strong army getting into shenanigans in Aquitaine and Bordeaux areas. The English were getting into shenanigans up north so this divided the French army.

Unfortunately my 10000 army got hit with a sickness during its campaign and then lost a series of battles that greatly reduced their strength. So I had to pull them back to regroup.

After about 12 years the English made peace which brought the French army full force on me. I left a small vanguard of about 3500 to draw away some forces as I retreaded south. Then I was able to regroup with my Marseille campaign army and together we held off the French army, though both sides took massive losses, unfortunately they were able to retake one of the Aragon regions I had conquered. I only won due to terrain and defensive bonuses.

Right now both sides are kinda just launching small raids against each other. It's practically a stalemate and I've sent my spy to try and start raising trouble with the barons. Hopefully that pulls through. Hoping to achieve peace soon.
Tough War, who are you playing as?

For all intents and purposes, Spain. I still have the independent kingdoms of Castille, Galicia, and Leon. I can't risk destroying them at this point to unite the crown. Will have to wait until later on.

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sun Feb 24, 2013 5:13 am

Napkiraly wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Tough War, who are you playing as?

For all intents and purposes, Spain. I still have the independent kingdoms of Castille, Galicia, and Leon. I can't risk destroying them at this point to unite the crown. Will have to wait until later on.
Fun, is this in CK2?
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Postby Napkiraly » Sun Feb 24, 2013 5:15 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:For all intents and purposes, Spain. I still have the independent kingdoms of Castille, Galicia, and Leon. I can't risk destroying them at this point to unite the crown. Will have to wait until later on.
Fun, is this in CK2?

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