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What would make a better president?

Twilight Sparkle
32
57%
Fluttershy
8
14%
Rainbow Dash
8
14%
Pinky Pie
4
7%
Rarity
3
5%
Applejack
1
2%
 
Total votes : 56

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Zendabujii
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My little pony president

Postby Zendabujii » Sat Sep 08, 2012 2:54 pm

I was board and thought to myself "Witch of the main 6 ponies would be a better president?" Then realised how diffrent they all are from each other. So I spend a whole day trying break apart there personality piece by piece, and try to make sense of all there core beliefs. Then try to prove the point of my research to myself on there personalities with evidence from the show, and used critical thinking skills and logic. Im glad to say after a full 10 houres of this, I decide on my pony president! Now pick what main 6 pony would be a better president, and try to reason why the pony you pick would be a better president. Because there not real and we cant talk to them, we have to reason are logic about what they will be like as a president, so explain your logic, and opinions of the ponies with much detail as possible. I will not say mines till later. In three weeks, I will take the two most voted ponies and put them in a finale round to see what is the most favorite political pony. I will call it mlp president

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Postby Ifreann » Sat Sep 08, 2012 2:57 pm

*expecting this to get merged into the Pony thread*

Obviously Twilight Sparkle. Progress through checklists.
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Postby Mavorpen » Sat Sep 08, 2012 3:19 pm

Ifreann wrote:*expecting this to get merged into the Pony thread*

Obviously Twilight Sparkle. Progress through checklists.

Applejack for VP.
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Sep 08, 2012 3:22 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
Ifreann wrote:*expecting this to get merged into the Pony thread*

Obviously Twilight Sparkle. Progress through checklists.

Applejack for VP.

She'll buck the economy.
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Sat Sep 08, 2012 3:24 pm

Fluttershy would fix the enviroment :)
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Postby Threlizdun » Sat Sep 08, 2012 3:30 pm

Pinkie Pie expresses excellent socialization skills, possesses Pinkie Sense (perhaps it warns about shitty policies or economic collapse as well?), is greatly concerned with the happiness and well-being of others, is well-prepared for the unexpected, and generally has quite exceptional knowledge over a wide range of subjects.

While Twilight may be well organized and quite intelligent, her common sense has proven to be...lacking. Her difficulty socializing would also serve as a major problem in this profession, and she has repeatedly displayed completely irrational behavior upon being subjected to extensive pressure, often making the problems worse. If she almost destroys Ponyville because she is late on her report to the Princess, I can't even begin to imagine the horrors she would unleash when subjected to the stresses of being President.
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LOVE THE PROGRESS

Postby Zendabujii » Sat Sep 08, 2012 3:33 pm

I will say that i like that this has the potential to become more popular then i thought. you guys made me think about it and i decide to change the rules, and drop one pony every three weeks and when three are droped, I will make a vice president poll for the three to match with the other three so for now wait on the VP. OK

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Postby Saiwania » Sat Sep 08, 2012 3:36 pm

Rainbow Dash, she'll care first and foremost about winning and will presumably pick the best ponies for her cabinet. She would run a highly competitive campaign.
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Postby Khadgar » Sat Sep 08, 2012 3:40 pm

In order of preference:
Spike (who you left out thus showing your bias)
Twilight Sparkle
Applejack
Flutteryshy
Rarity
Rainbow Dash
Pinkie Pie

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Postby Purpelia » Sat Sep 08, 2012 3:48 pm

PP! Her campaign promises are cake and parties! And she is likely to deliver!
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Postby New Naephak » Sat Sep 08, 2012 3:50 pm

Pinkie Pie, with Twilight Sparkle as VP.

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Postby Tsaraine » Sat Sep 08, 2012 4:01 pm

Let's see.

Twilight Sparkle - Ponyville's best administrator. OCD and social anxiety; unlikely to cope well with the stresses of the position. Unlikely to be able to adequately represent religious issues. Likely to have well-articulated policy positions, but poor social skills lead to this candidate being regarded as emotionally cold and a "policy wonk". Known use of unpaid dragon labour likely to cause problems in campaign. Strong links to unelected foreign dictator Princess Celestia; may embroil America in expensive foreign intervention in unstable Equestrian politics.

Fluttershy - soft on crime, tough on the environment. Unlikely to be able to adequately stand up for America's interests in international diplomacy. Lacks firm sense of self-worth; likely to be easily led by advisers.

Rainbow Dash - no relevant prior experience. Egotism and braggadocio may alienate colleagues and foreign heads of state. Unable to clearly articulate policy plans ("just make the economy 20% cooler"). Charisma likely to appeal to younger voters. Likely to perform poorly in debate with more intellectual candidates (eg Twilight Sparkle).

Pinky Pie - of fragile psychological stability. Measures self-worth by number of friends; negative approval polls are likely to trigger psychological crisis. The Pinkie Pie Party Plan is likely to balloon government spending on luxury goods.

Rarity - previous experience in running own business; can connect with small business owners. Likely to run a successful campaign. Ability to easily prospect for rare minerals may be of use in oil exploration. Rampant narcissistic personality disorder causes problems relating with others, may cause issues by exceeding Constitutional mandate ("It's not illegal if a President this fabulous does it").

Applejack - previous experience in business, economy-focused. Likely to appeal to small business owners, rural voters. Problematic adversarial relationship with large business. Extremely stubborn, inability to effectively compromise may doom attempts at bipartisanism, foreign relations. Has difficulty accepting aid; likely to cope poorly with the stress of office.

The suitability of many of these candidates would be heavily dependent upon an appropriate VP pick; a Twilight Sparkle ticket with Rainbow Dash as VP would add necessary charisma to Sparkle's campaign, while Sparkle's intellectual credentials would balance her VP's "less thinky, more do-y" attitude. Similarly, a Rarity ticket with Fluttershy as VP would add a useful sense of humility to balance Rarity's ego. Pinkie Pie would be a valuable VP choice for any Presidential candidate lacking broad appeal, charisma, or compromise.

Unless bankrolled by foreign dictator Princess Celestia, all of the above candidates may have difficulty raising sufficient funds to run a successful campaign. But there is another potential candidate - one with significant business experience, a congenial relationship with industry, and sufficient charisma to convince voters of their suitability:

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Postby Hardened Pyrokinetics » Sat Sep 08, 2012 4:02 pm

Discord, just to mix things up a little.
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Postby The God-Realm » Sat Sep 08, 2012 4:04 pm

None of them because they are preteens.

(Fuck you fanon, they act like preteens.)
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Postby Giovenith » Sat Sep 08, 2012 4:04 pm

Twilight would be the obvious choice. But with how America can be, I wouldn't be surprised if we elected Rainbow Dash.
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Postby The Kuomintang » Sat Sep 08, 2012 4:06 pm

Zendabujii wrote:I was board

I don't know anything about ponies, but can I be chalk?

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Postby Cold Coast » Sat Sep 08, 2012 4:09 pm

Rarity, with Twilight Sparkle as VP

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Postby Phocidaea » Sat Sep 08, 2012 4:38 pm

Hmm... let's see.

Twilight Sparkle would contribute leadership experience, intelligence, dedication to work, and the ability to stop assassins' bullets with magic. I mean, just imagine how cool it would be to have a president who would both actually read paperwork and know magic. Of course, she might go insane when she misses a bill, and cast a "want it, need it" spell on some oil reserve and... wait, that wouldn't change anything.
Rainbow Dash would be good for public image, since everyone likes a physically fit president, and would be good at aggressive military tactics. And she would make the country about 20% cooler within ten seconds of taking office. Her main problem would be her assertiveness, and she would probably crash Marine One by demanding to fly it.
Applejack could court Southern and Midwestern voters with her "homegrown charm", and generally be good ol' American, good for PR. And who needs a Secret Service when the president can kick would-be assassins across the room? Her problem, of course, would be staying up too late signing bills, and making mistakes while in a daze. And dazed mistakes by heads of state are rarely good.
Rarity would be good at the managerial aspects of presidency, and be the best prepared for formal balls and dinners. But her histrionics would probably launch WWIII by accident when a SotU speech went horribly wrong.
Pinkie Pie would help break the image of politicians being gloomy and stoic, and contribute to speech writing. She might find trouble in the election, though, when her opponents began interpreting phrases like "Ya gotta share" as signs that she was a secret socialist. Also, she'd be easily bribed with cupcakes.
Fluttershy would... um, probably... not be very good about... um, the military, if that's okay with you. She would be... uh, attacked by her opponents, for her weak-looking foreign policy. But she would certainly be good for the NPS.
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Postby New Matawan » Sat Sep 08, 2012 4:41 pm

Twi's the only one with any sort of political exposure whatsoever, being Celestia's apprentice and all.

My choice is her.
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Postby Demphor » Sat Sep 08, 2012 4:47 pm

Actually, no, I can make the Cabinet.
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Postby Demphor » Sat Sep 08, 2012 4:52 pm

President of the United States: Twilight Sparkle
Secretary of State: Pinkie Pie
Secretary of the Treasury: Spike
Secretary of Defense: Rainbow Dash
Secretary of Justice: Princess Celestia
Secretary of Energy: Fluttershy
Secretary of the Interior: Rarity
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Postby Khadgar » Sat Sep 08, 2012 4:53 pm

Giovenith wrote:Twilight would be the obvious choice. But with how America can be, I wouldn't be surprised if we elected Rainbow Dash.


Rainbow wouldn't get elected, too many rumors of lesbianism.

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Postby Ulvena » Sat Sep 08, 2012 4:54 pm

Obviously Twilight Sparkle. We can finally get a smart President in office.

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Postby Phocidaea » Sat Sep 08, 2012 5:01 pm

If I have to pick one, definitely Twilight Sparkle. She's the only one who would actually know how to run a country. This judgement totally not clouded by the fact that Twilight Sparkle is best pony.
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Sat Sep 08, 2012 5:12 pm

Twilight Sparkle is dominating current poll trends in the Pony Party Primaries. :(
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