The Warhammer 40,000 / (Fantasy) discussion thread.

[Dorlania]

this has been bugging the hell out of me. since the IG is based upon regiments, what is tge size of one regiment? or is it that every world's regiments are different sizes b/c standardization is a 'wtf' in the imperium

Varies. Some armored regiments, lacking infantry, are only a few hundred. Then there's sort of the "generic" Cadian regiment which seems to be around ten thousand, Hyrkans (from Gaunt's Ghosts) being 1,000 per regiment and the intended size of the three Tanith regiments being 2000 each, and Krieg siege regiments being several hundred thousand or so.

Kriegers seem huge mostly because sieges and attrition wars need major manpower, and one regiment is easier than several. So yeah, it varies very much based on specialization, planetary military tradition, resources available, etc.

thats what i thought. since regiments IRL are kinda small, 10,000 seems a pretty good generic size. i'd also figure a planet's Tithe Grade would judge the size. Kreigers i understand being LOLHUEG.

[Indeos]

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Knight

Terminators on steroids. The Guard should seriously have access to these things.

[Nazis in Space]

The Imperium must conduct an experiment where they inject every known drug into an Ork.
-nods-

"Oi, I fink I kin fly, boyz! Dis humie stuff is eksellent!"

It's an Ork, so now it actually can fly.

Congrats. You just created flying Orks. Aren't you proud of yourself?

[The Huskar Social Union]

Apparently according to the 40k wiki and parts of the lexicanum, Hive fleet Leviathan, the largest one so far, which had Kraken and Behemoth act as scouting forces for its self, might just be the opening wave of an even larger Tyranid hive fleet which is meant to arrive in imperial territory at the end of the first century of the 42nd millennium.

So, if that is true then the imperium is doomed. But it would make for a glorious last stand.

[AETEN II]

LSD flying Orks must become a unit, because then I'd totally damn the money and get into warhammer.

[Tagmatium]

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Knight

Terminators on steroids. The Guard should seriously have access to these things.

They're kind of part of the Adeptus Mechanicus.

So if the Guard asked nicely...

[Samuraikoku]

Apparently according to the 40k wiki and parts of the lexicanum, Hive fleet Leviathan, the largest one so far, which had Kraken and Behemoth act as scouting forces for its self, might just be the opening wave of an even larger Tyranid hive fleet which is meant to arrive in imperial territory at the end of the first century of the 42nd millennium.

So, if that is true then the imperium is doomed. But it would make for a glorious last stand.

Perhaps if the lost Primarchs (Jaghatai Khan, Leman Russ, Corax, Vulkan) returned, Lion'El Jonson woke up and Roboute Guilliman turned out to be alive...

[The Huskar Social Union]

Apparently according to the 40k wiki and parts of the lexicanum, Hive fleet Leviathan, the largest one so far, which had Kraken and Behemoth act as scouting forces for its self, might just be the opening wave of an even larger Tyranid hive fleet which is meant to arrive in imperial territory at the end of the first century of the 42nd millennium.

So, if that is true then the imperium is doomed. But it would make for a glorious last stand.

Perhaps if the lost Primarchs (Jaghatai Khan, Leman Russ, Corax, Vulkan) returned, Lion'El Jonson woke up and Roboute Guilliman turned out to be alive...

Then the imperium might just make it through this alive.

[Crookfur]

LSD flying Orks must become a unit, because then I'd totally damn the money and get into warhammer.

IIRC one of the rolled behaviors for madboyz used to feature them beliving they could fly at which point they could move as if they had jump packs.

But thats a half remembered fact from rogue trader/ 2nd edt so it could be bollocks.

[AETEN II]

LSD flying Orks must become a unit, because then I'd totally damn the money and get into warhammer.

IIRC one of the rolled behaviors for madboyz used to feature them beliving they could fly at which point they could move as if they had jump packs.

But thats a half remembered fact from rogue trader/ 2nd edt so it could be bollocks.

I just find it funny how they constantly try to make it not obvious that the Orks are comedic relief and so utterly fail at doing such.

[Crookfur]

IIRC one of the rolled behaviors for madboyz used to feature them beliving they could fly at which point they could move as if they had jump packs.

But thats a half remembered fact from rogue trader/ 2nd edt so it could be bollocks.

I just find it funny how they constantly try to make it not obvious that the Orks are comedic relief and so utterly fail at doing such.

The serious bizness Orks are very much a 3rd edt creation. Although to be fair its all been downhill since 'Ere we go! and Freebooterz!

[Immoren]

IIRC one of the rolled behaviors for madboyz used to feature them beliving they could fly at which point they could move as if they had jump packs.

But thats a half remembered fact from rogue trader/ 2nd edt so it could be bollocks.

I just find it funny how they constantly try to make it not obvious that the Orks are comedic relief and so utterly fail at doing such.

They originally didn't try to hide it. After it got all grim dark tho...

[AETEN II]

I just find it funny how they constantly try to make it not obvious that the Orks are comedic relief and so utterly fail at doing such.

They originally didn't try to hide it. After it got all grim dark tho...

Nah, it's still obvious. They're giant mushroom men that have worse grammar than an inbred redneck.

[Arkania 5]

LSD flying Orks must become a unit, because then I'd totally damn the money and get into warhammer.

Hallicinations+ Subconscious reality-bending= Win.

[Indeos]

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Knight

Terminators on steroids. The Guard should seriously have access to these things.

They're kind of part of the Adeptus Mechanicus.

So if the Guard asked nicely...

I mean unlimited access. The article mentions nothing about the Mechanicus being unable to create them easily, so I'd assume they could at least make enough for a certain amount of elite troops.

[Wamitoria]

They're kind of part of the Adeptus Mechanicus.

So if the Guard asked nicely...

I mean unlimited access. The article mentions nothing about the Mechanicus being unable to create them easily, so I'd assume they could at least make enough for a certain amount of elite troops.

Assuming they don't forget how to make them.

[Volmachtia]

They're kind of part of the Adeptus Mechanicus.

So if the Guard asked nicely...

I mean unlimited access. The article mentions nothing about the Mechanicus being unable to create them easily, so I'd assume they could at least make enough for a certain amount of elite troops.

The difficulty with that is how the Admech likes to build things.

"First thee shall placeth the front panel, beginning with the incantation of proper rigging and finishing with a hymnal of interlocking. Then thou must proceed with a spritz of holy oil and light a candle, singing praise to the Machine God, then thou willst continue with the following 1,095 panels..."

[Indeos]

I mean unlimited access. The article mentions nothing about the Mechanicus being unable to create them easily, so I'd assume they could at least make enough for a certain amount of elite troops.

Assuming they don't forget how to make them.

They apparently haven't yet, which I think means they aren't exactly likely to.

I mean unlimited access. The article mentions nothing about the Mechanicus being unable to create them easily, so I'd assume they could at least make enough for a certain amount of elite troops.

The difficulty with that is how the Admech likes to build things.

"First thee shall placeth the front panel, beginning with the incantation of proper rigging and finishing with a hymnal of interlocking. Then thou must proceed with a spritz of holy oil and light a candle, singing praise to the Machine God, then thou willst continue with the following 1,095 panels..."

If lasguns and Leman Russes can be mass-produced, I'm sure knight suits can. TBH if they still knew how to make Titans they could probably do that as well, but IIRC a lot of the knowledge is fading.

[Volmachtia]

The difficulty with that is how the Admech likes to build things.

"First thee shall placeth the front panel, beginning with the incantation of proper rigging and finishing with a hymnal of interlocking. Then thou must proceed with a spritz of holy oil and light a candle, singing praise to the Machine God, then thou willst continue with the following 1,095 panels..."

If lasguns and Leman Russes can be mass-produced, I'm sure knight suits can. TBH if they still knew how to make Titans they could probably do that as well, but IIRC a lot of the knowledge is fading.

"Can" is different from "will". The Mechanicus treats big projects like building Titans as a religious action, since unlike Leman Russes and such, the Titan Legions are entirely under their control. So they take all the time they want building it so as to avoid angering its machine spirit.

[Death World Krieg]

If lasguns and Leman Russes can be mass-produced, I'm sure knight suits can. TBH if they still knew how to make Titans they could probably do that as well, but IIRC a lot of the knowledge is fading.

"Can" is different from "will". The Mechanicus treats big projects like building Titans as a religious action, since unlike Leman Russes and such, the Titan Legions are entirely under their control. So they take all the time they want building it so as to avoid angering its machine spirit.

God The Mechanicus are so annoying they are holding the Imperium back from becoming what it once was. They have the STC for the baneblade sitting on Mars but they won't let any other forge world have it. The Imperium could be using baneblades instead of Leman Russes but noooooo The Mechanicus can't be bothered to give up this "holy" information. They have ton's of STC's sitting in there vaults but they won't let any one have them.

[The Huskar Social Union]

"Can" is different from "will". The Mechanicus treats big projects like building Titans as a religious action, since unlike Leman Russes and such, the Titan Legions are entirely under their control. So they take all the time they want building it so as to avoid angering its machine spirit.

God The Mechanicus are so annoying they are holding the Imperium back from becoming what it once was. They have the STC for the baneblade sitting on Mars but they won't let any other forge world have it. The Imperium could be using baneblades instead of Leman Russes but noooooo The Mechanicus can't be bothered to give up this "holy" information. They have ton's of STC's sitting in there vaults but they won't let any one have them.

Yeah, bunch of annoying assholes them, how many guard would be saved if they actually started kicking up their production and using the STC's instead of all the religious crap.

[Gauntleted Fist]

God The Mechanicus are so annoying they are holding the Imperium back from becoming what it once was.

Because the Imperium does not control the Mechanicus. They are allied, distinct empires from two entirely separate cultures of humanity. Would you give up all your secrets simply because you are closely allied with someone? Especially a fanatical anti-innovation theocratic state like the Imperium?

They have the STC for the baneblade sitting on Mars but they won't let any other forge world have it. The Imperium could be using baneblades instead of Leman Russes but noooooo The Mechanicus can't be bothered to give up this "holy" information. They have ton's of STC's sitting in there vaults but they won't let any one have them.

Of course not. They've already been burned by portions of the Imperium and the empire of Mars turning traitor. They obviously haven't forgotten that just yet.

Yeah, bunch of annoying assholes them, how many guard would be saved if they actually started kicking up their production and using the STC's instead of all the religious crap.

Much the same could be said of any Imperial force. "Religious crap" is precisely why they're in the abysmal situation that they're all in the first place.

[Dorlania]

"Can" is different from "will". The Mechanicus treats big projects like building Titans as a religious action, since unlike Leman Russes and such, the Titan Legions are entirely under their control. So they take all the time they want building it so as to avoid angering its machine spirit.

God The Mechanicus are so annoying they are holding the Imperium back from becoming what it once was. They have the STC for the baneblade sitting on Mars but they won't let any other forge world have it. The Imperium could be using baneblades instead of Leman Russes but noooooo The Mechanicus can't be bothered to give up this "holy" information. They have ton's of STC's sitting in there vaults but they won't let any one have them.

their paranoid as hell for a good reason.
an STC is srsbsns, expecially when the chance of finding one becomes slimer each year. i doubt the Techpriests of Mars would be so willy-nilly on such a deadly piece of equipment. they might hoard, yes, but it's for legit reasons

[Death World Krieg]

God The Mechanicus are so annoying they are holding the Imperium back from becoming what it once was.

Because the Imperium does not control the Mechanicus. They are allied, distinct empires from two entirely separate cultures of humanity. Would you give up all your secrets simply because you are closely allied with someone? Especially a fanatical anti-innovation theocratic state like the Imperium?

They have the STC for the baneblade sitting on Mars but they won't let any other forge world have it. The Imperium could be using baneblades instead of Leman Russes but noooooo The Mechanicus can't be bothered to give up this "holy" information. They have ton's of STC's sitting in there vaults but they won't let any one have them.

Of course not. They've already been burned by portions of the Imperium and the empire of Mars turning traitor. They obviously haven't forgotten that just yet.

The Emperor should have wiped them out when he had the chance but he didn't want to besiege Mars.

[Dorlania]

God The Mechanicus are so annoying they are holding the Imperium back from becoming what it once was.

Because the Imperium does not control the Mechanicus. They are allied, distinct empires from two entirely separate cultures of humanity. Would you give up all your secrets simply because you are closely allied with someone? Especially a fanatical anti-innovation theocratic state like the Imperium?

They have the STC for the baneblade sitting on Mars but they won't let any other forge world have it. The Imperium could be using baneblades instead of Leman Russes but noooooo The Mechanicus can't be bothered to give up this "holy" information. They have ton's of STC's sitting in there vaults but they won't let any one have them.

Of course not. They've already been burned by portions of the Imperium and the empire of Mars turning traitor. They obviously haven't forgotten that just yet.

just imagine if the Dark Mechanicus got hold of the STC for a baneblade
oh lord