The Warhammer 40,000 / (Fantasy) discussion thread.

[Totalise]

so battle of verdun french then? kind of like death korps without the grim back story, and you know be german like the rest of the imperium (though technicaly the french are part of the frankish germanic tribe)

I imagine that they look like those Nox Prime Chevaliers from Taurus-ChaosLord's DeviantArt. Also, they have dogs.

i really do like the 40k old guard look to them (cadians with moded deathkorps heads) looks awsome in general and i need to read all the way through your fluff

[The Empire of Pretantia]

I imagine that they look like those Nox Prime Chevaliers from Taurus-ChaosLord's DeviantArt. Also, they have dogs.

i really do like the 40k old guard look to them (cadians with moded deathkorps heads) looks awsome in general and i need to read all the way through your fluff

Your heart will melt when you reach the dogs. Also currently compiling a Space-Samurai world.

[Ansrecht]

Do most game stores sell Mordian Iron Guard IG troops? Want to make my Prussian Imperial Guard

no

however if your willing to pay $35 for about a squad of 9(iirc) from gw direct, otherwise you'll have to scounge around on ebay

[Pragia]

Damn shame... Mordians look so badass too.

[Totalise]

i really do like the 40k old guard look to them (cadians with moded deathkorps heads) looks awsome in general and i need to read all the way through your fluff

Your heart will melt when you reach the dogs. Also currently compiling a Space-Samurai world.

so lots of bikes, and mid range capability i assume?

[The Free Kingdom of Proprius]

I'm working on my first Eldar army right now. Storm Guardians: Bad or Good?

[Atelia]

i really do like the 40k old guard look to them (cadians with moded deathkorps heads) looks awsome in general and i need to read all the way through your fluff

Your heart will melt when you reach the dogs. Also currently compiling a Space-Samurai world.

Ooh power katanas, bikes, fearlessness, honor rules, and all that jazz!

[The Empire of Pretantia]

Your heart will melt when you reach the dogs. Also currently compiling a Space-Samurai world.

so lots of bikes, and mid range capability i assume?

No idea where you got bikes from, but it's a knight world where feudal lords routinely engage in ritual combat. Each clan maintains two forces: war retainers and siege retainers. When drafted for service, siege retainers are supplied Kratos-pattern carapace armor from the neighboring forgeworld. There's also usually a high percentage of draftees who detest anything more advanced than a laslock or even a bow, and instead become noble retainers and pick up a saber(not a katana), and charge their enemy outright. They also ride turtles. Tank-sized turtles. With bulletproof shells. Everyone who isn't a siege retainer, noble retainer, or company retainer(In charge of defending the company captain) is just an average guardsman.

Your heart will melt when you reach the dogs. Also currently compiling a Space-Samurai world.

Ooh power katanas, bikes, fearlessness, honor rules, and all that jazz!

No katanas, their iron isn't low-quality enough for the forging process that makes a katana, a katana. They don't have fearlessness either, but they do have higher weapon skill. Also, those noble retainers I mentioned earlier? Gameplay-wise they have veteran stats, can number anywhere from five to twenty, can be armed with a bow, spear, or club PLUS a saber; have no armor save; can take a turtle as a dedicated transport with only five models; and have fearless. The siege retainers would essentially be grenadiers with laslocks, shotguns, hellguns, or siege rockets(GL with frag or krak), and can ride a turtle.

[Totalise]

so lots of bikes, and mid range capability i assume?

No idea where you got bikes from, but it's a knight world where feudal lords routinely engage in ritual combat. Each clan maintains two forces: war retainers and siege retainers. When drafted for service, siege retainers are supplied Kratos-pattern carapace armor from the neighboring forgeworld. There's also usually a high percentage of draftees who detest anything more advanced than a laslock or even a bow, and instead become noble retainers and pick up a saber(not a katana), and charge their enemy outright. They also ride turtles. Tank-sized turtles. With bulletproof shells. Everyone who isn't a siege retainer, noble retainer, or company retainer(In charge of defending the company captain) is just an average guardsman.

Ooh power katanas, bikes, fearlessness, honor rules, and all that jazz!

No katanas, their iron isn't low-quality enough for the forging process that makes a katana, a katana. They don't have fearlessness either, but they do have higher weapon skill. Also, those noble retainers I mentioned earlier? Gameplay-wise they have veteran stats, can number anywhere from five to twenty, can be armed with a bow, spear, or club PLUS a saber; have no armor save; can take a turtle as a dedicated transport with only five models; and have fearless. The siege retainers would essentially be grenadiers with laslocks, shotguns, hellguns, or siege rockets(GL with frag or krak), and can ride a turtle.

so on the table top Templar chapter tactics (which are great by the way), with guard allies.
one question thought. why sabers over katanas?

[The Empire of Pretantia]

No idea where you got bikes from, but it's a knight world where feudal lords routinely engage in ritual combat. Each clan maintains two forces: war retainers and siege retainers. When drafted for service, siege retainers are supplied Kratos-pattern carapace armor from the neighboring forgeworld. There's also usually a high percentage of draftees who detest anything more advanced than a laslock or even a bow, and instead become noble retainers and pick up a saber(not a katana), and charge their enemy outright. They also ride turtles. Tank-sized turtles. With bulletproof shells. Everyone who isn't a siege retainer, noble retainer, or company retainer(In charge of defending the company captain) is just an average guardsman.

No katanas, their iron isn't low-quality enough for the forging process that makes a katana, a katana. They don't have fearlessness either, but they do have higher weapon skill. Also, those noble retainers I mentioned earlier? Gameplay-wise they have veteran stats, can number anywhere from five to twenty, can be armed with a bow, spear, or club PLUS a saber; have no armor save; can take a turtle as a dedicated transport with only five models; and have fearless. The siege retainers would essentially be grenadiers with laslocks, shotguns, hellguns, or siege rockets(GL with frag or krak), and can ride a turtle.

so on the table top Templar chapter tactics (which are great by the way), with guard allies.
one question thought. why sabers over katanas?

The katana is, in essence, a saber; curved blade, slashing attacks, invented for horseback combat. What sets it apart, however, is the method of production. The iron used to forge katanas- tamehagane- is poor quality, so the metal of the blade has to be folded several times to even out and remove the impurities. In addition, the blade is laminated; that is, made of several layers of steel with varying levels of carbon. While Goda's blades are still laminated, they lack the poor-quality iron that necessitates folding the blade to such excess. That, and so I don't have to put up with "Durr, katana's thrice as sharp as longswords" bullcrap every weeaboo pulls. They still ride giant turtles though.

[Totalise]

so on the table top Templar chapter tactics (which are great by the way), with guard allies.
one question thought. why sabers over katanas?

The katana is, in essence, a saber; curved blade, slashing attacks, invented for horseback combat. What sets it apart, however, is the method of production. The iron used to forge katanas- tamehagane- is poor quality, so the metal of the blade has to be folded several times to even out and remove the impurities. In addition, the blade is laminated; that is, made of several layers of steel with varying levels of carbon. While Goda's blades are still laminated, they lack the poor-quality iron that necessitates folding the blade to such excess. That, and so I don't have to put up with "Durr, katana's thrice as sharp as longswords" bullcrap every weeaboo pulls. They still ride giant turtles though.

cool

[Atelia]

so lots of bikes, and mid range capability i assume?

No idea where you got bikes from, but it's a knight world where feudal lords routinely engage in ritual combat. Each clan maintains two forces: war retainers and siege retainers. When drafted for service, siege retainers are supplied Kratos-pattern carapace armor from the neighboring forgeworld. There's also usually a high percentage of draftees who detest anything more advanced than a laslock or even a bow, and instead become noble retainers and pick up a saber(not a katana), and charge their enemy outright. They also ride turtles. Tank-sized turtles. With bulletproof shells. Everyone who isn't a siege retainer, noble retainer, or company retainer(In charge of defending the company captain) is just an average guardsman.

Ooh power katanas, bikes, fearlessness, honor rules, and all that jazz!

No katanas, their iron isn't low-quality enough for the forging process that makes a katana, a katana. They don't have fearlessness either, but they do have higher weapon skill. Also, those noble retainers I mentioned earlier? Gameplay-wise they have veteran stats, can number anywhere from five to twenty, can be armed with a bow, spear, or club PLUS a saber; have no armor save; can take a turtle as a dedicated transport with only five models; and have fearless. The siege retainers would essentially be grenadiers with laslocks, shotguns, hellguns, or siege rockets(GL with frag or krak), and can ride a turtle.

... I can understand the lack of Katanas, yet personally i would include them just cause of the rule of cool. But really i feel like its missing cavalry whether on bike or horse back I feel it should be a core unit, also im sorry but bows? How are those going to work? Power arrows?

[The Empire of Pretantia]

No idea where you got bikes from, but it's a knight world where feudal lords routinely engage in ritual combat. Each clan maintains two forces: war retainers and siege retainers. When drafted for service, siege retainers are supplied Kratos-pattern carapace armor from the neighboring forgeworld. There's also usually a high percentage of draftees who detest anything more advanced than a laslock or even a bow, and instead become noble retainers and pick up a saber(not a katana), and charge their enemy outright. They also ride turtles. Tank-sized turtles. With bulletproof shells. Everyone who isn't a siege retainer, noble retainer, or company retainer(In charge of defending the company captain) is just an average guardsman.

No katanas, their iron isn't low-quality enough for the forging process that makes a katana, a katana. They don't have fearlessness either, but they do have higher weapon skill. Also, those noble retainers I mentioned earlier? Gameplay-wise they have veteran stats, can number anywhere from five to twenty, can be armed with a bow, spear, or club PLUS a saber; have no armor save; can take a turtle as a dedicated transport with only five models; and have fearless. The siege retainers would essentially be grenadiers with laslocks, shotguns, hellguns, or siege rockets(GL with frag or krak), and can ride a turtle.

... I can understand the lack of Katanas, yet personally i would include them just cause of the rule of cool. But really i feel like its missing cavalry whether on bike or horse back I feel it should be a core unit, also im sorry but bows? How are those going to work? Power arrows?

Assault sniper rifles. Also, yes there is cav, just not bikes, and technically not roughriders as they don't use hunting spears; they use bows too.

[Atelia]

... I can understand the lack of Katanas, yet personally i would include them just cause of the rule of cool. But really i feel like its missing cavalry whether on bike or horse back I feel it should be a core unit, also im sorry but bows? How are those going to work? Power arrows?

Assault sniper rifles. Also, yes there is cav, just not bikes, and technically not roughriders as they don't use hunting spears; they use bows too.

Ah that sounds pretty cool, though it seems a bit odd that it would be the same strength as a las gun.
Ah good, its just you didnt mention any horsemen.

[Tagmatium]

Assault sniper rifles. Also, yes there is cav, just not bikes, and technically not roughriders as they don't use hunting spears; they use bows too.

Ah that sounds pretty cool, though it seems a bit odd that it would be the same strength as a las gun.
Ah good, its just you didnt mention any horsemen.

Assault sniper rifles?

Isn't that a contradiction in terms?

[Atelia]

Ah that sounds pretty cool, though it seems a bit odd that it would be the same strength as a las gun.
Ah good, its just you didnt mention any horsemen.

Assault sniper rifles?

Isn't that a contradiction in terms?

Well were talking about the rules for it. Its not actually a sniper.

[Tagmatium]

Assault sniper rifles?

Isn't that a contradiction in terms?

Well were talking about the rules for it. Its not actually a sniper.

How would the rules work for it, though?

[Atelia]

Well were talking about the rules for it. Its not actually a sniper.

How would the rules work for it, though?

He is just saying that it is a sniper rifle that is an assault weapon instead of heavy.

[Tagmatium]

How would the rules work for it, though?

He is just saying that it is a sniper rifle that is an assault weapon instead of heavy.

Probably have to have a relatively high points cost, as that would be quite beneficial.

[Lunas Legion]

He is just saying that it is a sniper rifle that is an assault weapon instead of heavy.

Probably have to have a relatively high points cost, as that would be quite beneficial.

Depends. If its just the sniper rule (hits on 4+ no matter the BS of the firer), it's not a major benefit.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

Assault sniper rifles. Also, yes there is cav, just not bikes, and technically not roughriders as they don't use hunting spears; they use bows too.

Ah that sounds pretty cool, though it seems a bit odd that it would be the same strength as a las gun.
Ah good, its just you didnt mention any horsemen.

Well you see, the bows are used by the "noble retainers", which are essentially samurai who were drafted and refuse to use lasguns or carapace armor. Gameplay-wise, they would be blob-vets. Actually, it's not all the bows that are sniper rifles; just the great bows that are one in every four men in the squad. Noble retainers are 5-20 strong, btw.

[Pragia]

There any good mordian proxy?

[Tagmatium]

There any good mordian proxy?

http://victoriaminiatures.highwire.com/ ... agesize=12

These are spot-on.

[Soul Edge]

Played the Dawn of War games, it isn't what I expected at all. With civilizations comprised of tens of billions I expected some cannon fodder, instead it was just small squads and a couple of vehicles. Whereas a USA Air Force General can fuck them over with a single bunker buster.

It appears to use the same game engine as Command and Conquer Generals though! So I felt right at home!

[Tagmatium]

Played the Dawn of War games, it isn't what I expected at all. With civilizations comprised of tens of billions I expected some cannon fodder, instead it was just small squads and a couple of vehicles. Whereas a USA Air Force General can fuck them over with a single bunker buster.

It appears to use the same game engine as Command and Conquer Generals though! So I felt right at home!

I think it's more limitations of game engine and balance more than anything else.

Unless you're talking about Dawn of War 2, which was just shit.

In my opinion.