The Warhammer 40,000 / (Fantasy) discussion thread.

[Atelia]

The thing is a boss. I wish i could take it for my guard. It would be great in a 2,000 point game.

Anyways i wanted to hear public opinion on my 2,000 point guard list i will be taking to my local shop tourney.
HQ: Company Command Squad
-Astropath

Troops: Platoon Command Squad
-3x Infantry squads

Auto cannon HWS

Veterans
-1x flamer

Fast Attack: 2x Vendettas
2x Vendettas
2x Vendettas

Heavy Support:
1x Avenger Strike fighter
- 2x Hellfury missiles
1X Avenger Strike fighter
- 2x Hellfury missiles
1x Avenger Strike fighter
- 2x Hellfury missiles

Non Force org slot consuming Heavy support:
1x Valkarie Sky talon
- 2x Multiple rocket pods
1x Valkarie Sky talon
- 2x Multiple rocket pods
1x Valkarie Sky talon
- 2x Multiple rocket pods

You play guard but you spam flyers instead of tanks or warm bodies? What are you, elysian drop troops?

Nope. Im just a troll.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

You play guard but you spam flyers instead of tanks or warm bodies? What are you, elysian drop troops?

Nope. Im just a troll.

I'd say you're a dumbass, but mods could easily interpret that as flaming. So I'll just say you are... A rabblewasha.

[Mini Miehm]

Nope. Im just a troll.

I'd say you're a dumbass, but mods could easily interpret that as flaming. So I'll just say you are... A rabblewasha.

Valk Spam is pretty good. Still not enough armies that have sufficient built in Skyfire to really threaten massed fliers. Sure, you can take the Aegis with the AA gun, but it can only kill one thing at a time. Tau could be a problem, but Tau get to break all the rules related to shooting anyway, so who cares at this point? Flyers really don't have any good answers right now other than other flyers, and there are few enough of those that are as good as the Valkyrie in terms of points per unit. And the ones that are, are really better suited for ground attack rather than air superiority. Course, I could ju8st be biased by my fondness for Daemons, CSMs, and Nids, as to the quality of the Valkyrie and the availablity of Skyfire. Although killing one with a plasma pistol one time was HILARIOUS.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

I'd say you're a dumbass, but mods could easily interpret that as flaming. So I'll just say you are... A rabblewasha.

Valk Spam is pretty good. Still not enough armies that have sufficient built in Skyfire to really threaten massed fliers. Sure, you can take the Aegis with the AA gun, but it can only kill one thing at a time. Tau could be a problem, but Tau get to break all the rules related to shooting anyway, so who cares at this point? Flyers really don't have any good answers right now other than other flyers, and there are few enough of those that are as good as the Valkyrie in terms of points per unit. And the ones that are, are really better suited for ground attack rather than air superiority. Course, I could ju8st be biased by my fondness for Daemons, CSMs, and Nids, as to the quality of the Valkyrie and the availablity of Skyfire. Although killing one with a plasma pistol one time was HILARIOUS.

Let me rephrase that: he is a rabblewasha for not using the Elysian codex.

[Mini Miehm]

Valk Spam is pretty good. Still not enough armies that have sufficient built in Skyfire to really threaten massed fliers. Sure, you can take the Aegis with the AA gun, but it can only kill one thing at a time. Tau could be a problem, but Tau get to break all the rules related to shooting anyway, so who cares at this point? Flyers really don't have any good answers right now other than other flyers, and there are few enough of those that are as good as the Valkyrie in terms of points per unit. And the ones that are, are really better suited for ground attack rather than air superiority. Course, I could ju8st be biased by my fondness for Daemons, CSMs, and Nids, as to the quality of the Valkyrie and the availablity of Skyfire. Although killing one with a plasma pistol one time was HILARIOUS.

Let me rephrase that: he is a rabblewasha for not using the Elysian codex.

Dat shit be spensive, yo.

[Atelia]

Valk Spam is pretty good. Still not enough armies that have sufficient built in Skyfire to really threaten massed fliers. Sure, you can take the Aegis with the AA gun, but it can only kill one thing at a time. Tau could be a problem, but Tau get to break all the rules related to shooting anyway, so who cares at this point? Flyers really don't have any good answers right now other than other flyers, and there are few enough of those that are as good as the Valkyrie in terms of points per unit. And the ones that are, are really better suited for ground attack rather than air superiority. Course, I could ju8st be biased by my fondness for Daemons, CSMs, and Nids, as to the quality of the Valkyrie and the availablity of Skyfire. Although killing one with a plasma pistol one time was HILARIOUS.

Let me rephrase that: he is a rabblewasha for not using the Elysian codex.

Oh well not only is that pricy, my shop doesn't permit forge world list. Only units. That and even if that was not the case my flyer horde is very much so russian themed so i don't think elysians would be appropriate. Also what exactly would i gain from playing Elysians over standard guard?

[The Armed Republic of Dutch Coolness]

Well, I decided on Black Guard over Executioners anyway.


Damn ace models I say.

Have you seen the old metal models?

Yeah. I hate them.

I really didn't like the Dark Elves before the update - dem silly helmets, for instance...

[The Empire of Pretantia]

Let me rephrase that: he is a rabblewasha for not using the Elysian codex.

Oh well not only is that pricy, my shop doesn't permit forge world list. Only units. That and even if that was not the case my flyer horde is very much so russian themed so i don't think elysians would be appropriate. Also what exactly would i gain from playing Elysians over standard guard?

MULTIPLE, SIMULTANEOUS, AND DEVASTATING DEEPSTRIKES.

Also, drop sentinels. Not that you'll ever use those anyway. It just feels more right to do a flyer list with Elysians.

[The Armed Republic of Dutch Coolness]

Oh well not only is that pricy, my shop doesn't permit forge world list. Only units. That and even if that was not the case my flyer horde is very much so russian themed so i don't think elysians would be appropriate. Also what exactly would i gain from playing Elysians over standard guard?

MULTIPLE, SIMULTANEOUS, AND DEVASTATING DEEPSTRIKES.

Also, drop sentinels. Not that you'll ever use those anyway. It just feels more right to do a flyer list with Elysians.

Hundreds of thousands of Vendettas...

Awh yeah.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

MULTIPLE, SIMULTANEOUS, AND DEVASTATING DEEPSTRIKES.

Also, drop sentinels. Not that you'll ever use those anyway. It just feels more right to do a flyer list with Elysians.

Hundreds of thousands of Vendettas...

Awh yeah.

What's that? you want a baneblade? Fuck you, use marauders!

[The Armed Republic of Dutch Coolness]

Hundreds of thousands of Vendettas...

Awh yeah.

What's that? you want a baneblade? Fuck you, use marauders!

I don't need superheavies.

I'll just use 2385923058390823908390763890 Vendettas.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

What's that? you want a baneblade? Fuck you, use marauders!

I don't need superheavies.

I'll just use 2385923058390823908390763890 Vendettas.

That's all of the vendettas in the galaxy!

[The Armed Republic of Dutch Coolness]

I don't need superheavies.

I'll just use 2385923058390823908390763890 Vendettas.

That's all of the vendettas in the galaxy!

You mean one Imperial Navy Fleet.


Send in the next wave!

[Tel]

If I'm not mistaken, there's an apocalypse army, fully painted and armed, of just Cadians.

Just. Cadians.

There was a machine that had to be made to calculate all of their rolls. There were 1000+ shots in the first turn, if I'm not mistaken.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

If I'm not mistaken, there's an apocalypse army, fully painted and armed, of just Cadians.

Just. Cadians.

There was a machine that had to be made to calculate all of their rolls. There were 1000+ shots in the first turn, if I'm not mistaken.

What. You must find this!

[The Armed Republic of Dutch Coolness]

Possible new terrain kit:

[Pragia]

Hmmmm, idea for IG...

Give Stormtroopers the option of getting power armor (maybe at 15 pts/model or so) and possibly give sergeants and HQ choices too.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

Hmmmm, idea for IG...

Give Stormtroopers the option of getting power armor (maybe at 15 pts/model or so) and possibly give sergeants and HQ choices too.

I understand the stormtroopers. Sergeants would be stretching it. HQ is really, really subjective to what world they're from.

[Atelia]

If I'm not mistaken, there's an apocalypse army, fully painted and armed, of just Cadians.

Just. Cadians.

There was a machine that had to be made to calculate all of their rolls. There were 1000+ shots in the first turn, if I'm not mistaken.

Yeah i have enough bodies to play a 2000 point guard army with 425 men. Its absolute madness.

[Pragia]

Hmmmm, idea for IG...

Give Stormtroopers the option of getting power armor (maybe at 15 pts/model or so) and possibly give sergeants and HQ choices too.

I understand the stormtroopers. Sergeants would be stretching it. HQ is really, really subjective to what world they're from.

HQ as in command squad, unsure on others (been going with my list)

[Atelia]

Hmmmm, idea for IG...

Give Stormtroopers the option of getting power armor (maybe at 15 pts/model or so) and possibly give sergeants and HQ choices too.

What storm troopers need to be good is a plain and simple point reduction (And up to three special weapons at least to compete with vets) May i ask that if they are to cost 15 points with power armor how much should they be with out it?

[The Empire of Pretantia]

I understand the stormtroopers. Sergeants would be stretching it. HQ is really, really subjective to what world they're from.

HQ as in command squad, unsure on others (been going with my list)

Still subjective. For example, my fanworld would occasionally provide powered or artificer armor to their HEROES OF THE IMPERIUM.

[Pragia]

Hmmmm, idea for IG...

Give Stormtroopers the option of getting power armor (maybe at 15 pts/model or so) and possibly give sergeants and HQ choices too.

What storm troopers need to be good is a plain and simple point reduction (And up to three special weapons at least to compete with vets) May i ask that if they are to cost 15 points with power armor how much should they be with out it?

Would assume 10-12 area, dependent moreso on if they got any other gear

[The Empire of Pretantia]

Hmmmm, idea for IG...

Give Stormtroopers the option of getting power armor (maybe at 15 pts/model or so) and possibly give sergeants and HQ choices too.

What storm troopers need to be good is a plain and simple point reduction (And up to three special weapons at least to compete with vets) May i ask that if they are to cost 15 points with power armor how much should they be with out it?

THE SAME WITH ALL THE MEHLITES!

[Atelia]

What storm troopers need to be good is a plain and simple point reduction (And up to three special weapons at least to compete with vets) May i ask that if they are to cost 15 points with power armor how much should they be with out it?

THE SAME WITH ALL THE MEHLITES!

Yeah that is true.