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Which faction do you belong to?

Space Marines (Includes Grey Knights and non-Codex Astartes compliant chapters)
159
18%
Imperial Guard/Inquisition (Daemon Hunters/Sisters of Battle)
236
27%
Adeptus Mechanicus
47
5%
Eldar
52
6%
Dark Eldar
19
2%
Tyranids
33
4%
Orks
40
5%
Necrons
45
5%
Tau Empire
136
16%
Chaos (Chaos Legions/Chaos Daemons)
93
11%
 
Total votes : 860

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Postby Atelia » Sun Dec 08, 2013 8:23 pm

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Atelia wrote:The thing is a boss. I wish i could take it for my guard. It would be great in a 2,000 point game.

Anyways i wanted to hear public opinion on my 2,000 point guard list i will be taking to my local shop tourney.
HQ: Company Command Squad
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Troops: Platoon Command Squad
-3x Infantry squads

Auto cannon HWS

Veterans
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Fast Attack: 2x Vendettas
2x Vendettas
2x Vendettas

Heavy Support:
1x Avenger Strike fighter
- 2x Hellfury missiles
1X Avenger Strike fighter
- 2x Hellfury missiles
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Non Force org slot consuming Heavy support:
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1x Valkarie Sky talon
- 2x Multiple rocket pods
1x Valkarie Sky talon
- 2x Multiple rocket pods

You play guard but you spam flyers instead of tanks or warm bodies? What are you, elysian drop troops?

Nope. Im just a troll. :lol:
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Sun Dec 08, 2013 8:40 pm

Atelia wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:You play guard but you spam flyers instead of tanks or warm bodies? What are you, elysian drop troops?

Nope. Im just a troll. :lol:

I'd say you're a dumbass, but mods could easily interpret that as flaming. So I'll just say you are... A rabblewasha.
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Postby Mini Miehm » Sun Dec 08, 2013 10:10 pm

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Atelia wrote:Nope. Im just a troll. :lol:

I'd say you're a dumbass, but mods could easily interpret that as flaming. So I'll just say you are... A rabblewasha.


Valk Spam is pretty good. Still not enough armies that have sufficient built in Skyfire to really threaten massed fliers. Sure, you can take the Aegis with the AA gun, but it can only kill one thing at a time. Tau could be a problem, but Tau get to break all the rules related to shooting anyway, so who cares at this point? Flyers really don't have any good answers right now other than other flyers, and there are few enough of those that are as good as the Valkyrie in terms of points per unit. And the ones that are, are really better suited for ground attack rather than air superiority. Course, I could ju8st be biased by my fondness for Daemons, CSMs, and Nids, as to the quality of the Valkyrie and the availablity of Skyfire. Although killing one with a plasma pistol one time was HILARIOUS.
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Sun Dec 08, 2013 10:21 pm

Mini Miehm wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:I'd say you're a dumbass, but mods could easily interpret that as flaming. So I'll just say you are... A rabblewasha.


Valk Spam is pretty good. Still not enough armies that have sufficient built in Skyfire to really threaten massed fliers. Sure, you can take the Aegis with the AA gun, but it can only kill one thing at a time. Tau could be a problem, but Tau get to break all the rules related to shooting anyway, so who cares at this point? Flyers really don't have any good answers right now other than other flyers, and there are few enough of those that are as good as the Valkyrie in terms of points per unit. And the ones that are, are really better suited for ground attack rather than air superiority. Course, I could ju8st be biased by my fondness for Daemons, CSMs, and Nids, as to the quality of the Valkyrie and the availablity of Skyfire. Although killing one with a plasma pistol one time was HILARIOUS.

Let me rephrase that: he is a rabblewasha for not using the Elysian codex.
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Postby Mini Miehm » Sun Dec 08, 2013 10:26 pm

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Mini Miehm wrote:
Valk Spam is pretty good. Still not enough armies that have sufficient built in Skyfire to really threaten massed fliers. Sure, you can take the Aegis with the AA gun, but it can only kill one thing at a time. Tau could be a problem, but Tau get to break all the rules related to shooting anyway, so who cares at this point? Flyers really don't have any good answers right now other than other flyers, and there are few enough of those that are as good as the Valkyrie in terms of points per unit. And the ones that are, are really better suited for ground attack rather than air superiority. Course, I could ju8st be biased by my fondness for Daemons, CSMs, and Nids, as to the quality of the Valkyrie and the availablity of Skyfire. Although killing one with a plasma pistol one time was HILARIOUS.

Let me rephrase that: he is a rabblewasha for not using the Elysian codex.


Dat shit be spensive, yo.
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Postby Atelia » Mon Dec 09, 2013 4:15 am

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Mini Miehm wrote:
Valk Spam is pretty good. Still not enough armies that have sufficient built in Skyfire to really threaten massed fliers. Sure, you can take the Aegis with the AA gun, but it can only kill one thing at a time. Tau could be a problem, but Tau get to break all the rules related to shooting anyway, so who cares at this point? Flyers really don't have any good answers right now other than other flyers, and there are few enough of those that are as good as the Valkyrie in terms of points per unit. And the ones that are, are really better suited for ground attack rather than air superiority. Course, I could ju8st be biased by my fondness for Daemons, CSMs, and Nids, as to the quality of the Valkyrie and the availablity of Skyfire. Although killing one with a plasma pistol one time was HILARIOUS.

Let me rephrase that: he is a rabblewasha for not using the Elysian codex.

Oh well not only is that pricy, my shop doesn't permit forge world list. Only units. That and even if that was not the case my flyer horde is very much so russian themed so i don't think elysians would be appropriate. Also what exactly would i gain from playing Elysians over standard guard?
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Postby The Armed Republic of Dutch Coolness » Mon Dec 09, 2013 5:10 am

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The Armed Republic of Dutch coolness wrote:Well, I decided on Black Guard over Executioners anyway.


Damn ace models I say.


Have you seen the old metal models?

Yeah. I hate them.

I really didn't like the Dark Elves before the update - dem silly helmets, for instance...
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Mon Dec 09, 2013 6:50 am

Atelia wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:Let me rephrase that: he is a rabblewasha for not using the Elysian codex.

Oh well not only is that pricy, my shop doesn't permit forge world list. Only units. That and even if that was not the case my flyer horde is very much so russian themed so i don't think elysians would be appropriate. Also what exactly would i gain from playing Elysians over standard guard?

MULTIPLE, SIMULTANEOUS, AND DEVASTATING DEEPSTRIKES.

Also, drop sentinels. Not that you'll ever use those anyway. It just feels more right to do a flyer list with Elysians.
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Postby The Armed Republic of Dutch Coolness » Mon Dec 09, 2013 6:52 am

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Atelia wrote:Oh well not only is that pricy, my shop doesn't permit forge world list. Only units. That and even if that was not the case my flyer horde is very much so russian themed so i don't think elysians would be appropriate. Also what exactly would i gain from playing Elysians over standard guard?

MULTIPLE, SIMULTANEOUS, AND DEVASTATING DEEPSTRIKES.

Also, drop sentinels. Not that you'll ever use those anyway. It just feels more right to do a flyer list with Elysians.

Hundreds of thousands of Vendettas...

Awh yeah.
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Mon Dec 09, 2013 6:57 am

The Armed Republic of Dutch coolness wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:MULTIPLE, SIMULTANEOUS, AND DEVASTATING DEEPSTRIKES.

Also, drop sentinels. Not that you'll ever use those anyway. It just feels more right to do a flyer list with Elysians.

Hundreds of thousands of Vendettas...

Awh yeah.

What's that? you want a baneblade? Fuck you, use marauders!
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The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
The Armed Republic of Dutch coolness wrote:Hundreds of thousands of Vendettas...

Awh yeah.

What's that? you want a baneblade? Fuck you, use marauders!

I don't need superheavies.

I'll just use 2385923058390823908390763890 Vendettas.
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Mon Dec 09, 2013 7:01 am

The Armed Republic of Dutch coolness wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:What's that? you want a baneblade? Fuck you, use marauders!

I don't need superheavies.

I'll just use 2385923058390823908390763890 Vendettas.

That's all of the vendettas in the galaxy!
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The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
The Armed Republic of Dutch coolness wrote:I don't need superheavies.

I'll just use 2385923058390823908390763890 Vendettas.

That's all of the vendettas in the galaxy!


You mean one Imperial Navy Fleet.


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Postby Tel » Mon Dec 09, 2013 7:25 am

If I'm not mistaken, there's an apocalypse army, fully painted and armed, of just Cadians.

Just. Cadians.

There was a machine that had to be made to calculate all of their rolls. There were 1000+ shots in the first turn, if I'm not mistaken.

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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Mon Dec 09, 2013 7:29 am

Tel wrote:If I'm not mistaken, there's an apocalypse army, fully painted and armed, of just Cadians.

Just. Cadians.

There was a machine that had to be made to calculate all of their rolls. There were 1000+ shots in the first turn, if I'm not mistaken.

What. You must find this!
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Postby Pragia » Mon Dec 09, 2013 12:47 pm

Hmmmm, idea for IG...

Give Stormtroopers the option of getting power armor (maybe at 15 pts/model or so) and possibly give sergeants and HQ choices too.

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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Mon Dec 09, 2013 12:57 pm

Pragia wrote:Hmmmm, idea for IG...

Give Stormtroopers the option of getting power armor (maybe at 15 pts/model or so) and possibly give sergeants and HQ choices too.

I understand the stormtroopers. Sergeants would be stretching it. HQ is really, really subjective to what world they're from.
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Postby Atelia » Mon Dec 09, 2013 1:34 pm

Tel wrote:If I'm not mistaken, there's an apocalypse army, fully painted and armed, of just Cadians.

Just. Cadians.

There was a machine that had to be made to calculate all of their rolls. There were 1000+ shots in the first turn, if I'm not mistaken.

Yeah i have enough bodies to play a 2000 point guard army with 425 men. Its absolute madness.
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Postby Pragia » Mon Dec 09, 2013 1:43 pm

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Pragia wrote:Hmmmm, idea for IG...

Give Stormtroopers the option of getting power armor (maybe at 15 pts/model or so) and possibly give sergeants and HQ choices too.

I understand the stormtroopers. Sergeants would be stretching it. HQ is really, really subjective to what world they're from.

HQ as in command squad, unsure on others (been going with my list)

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Postby Atelia » Mon Dec 09, 2013 1:55 pm

Pragia wrote:Hmmmm, idea for IG...

Give Stormtroopers the option of getting power armor (maybe at 15 pts/model or so) and possibly give sergeants and HQ choices too.

What storm troopers need to be good is a plain and simple point reduction (And up to three special weapons at least to compete with vets) May i ask that if they are to cost 15 points with power armor how much should they be with out it?
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Mon Dec 09, 2013 2:00 pm

Pragia wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:I understand the stormtroopers. Sergeants would be stretching it. HQ is really, really subjective to what world they're from.

HQ as in command squad, unsure on others (been going with my list)

Still subjective. For example, my fanworld would occasionally provide powered or artificer armor to their HEROES OF THE IMPERIUM.
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Postby Pragia » Mon Dec 09, 2013 2:02 pm

Atelia wrote:
Pragia wrote:Hmmmm, idea for IG...

Give Stormtroopers the option of getting power armor (maybe at 15 pts/model or so) and possibly give sergeants and HQ choices too.

What storm troopers need to be good is a plain and simple point reduction (And up to three special weapons at least to compete with vets) May i ask that if they are to cost 15 points with power armor how much should they be with out it?

Would assume 10-12 area, dependent moreso on if they got any other gear

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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Mon Dec 09, 2013 2:03 pm

Atelia wrote:
Pragia wrote:Hmmmm, idea for IG...

Give Stormtroopers the option of getting power armor (maybe at 15 pts/model or so) and possibly give sergeants and HQ choices too.

What storm troopers need to be good is a plain and simple point reduction (And up to three special weapons at least to compete with vets) May i ask that if they are to cost 15 points with power armor how much should they be with out it?

THE SAME WITH ALL THE MEHLITES!
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Postby Atelia » Mon Dec 09, 2013 2:27 pm

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Atelia wrote:What storm troopers need to be good is a plain and simple point reduction (And up to three special weapons at least to compete with vets) May i ask that if they are to cost 15 points with power armor how much should they be with out it?

THE SAME WITH ALL THE MEHLITES!

Yeah that is true.
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