The Warhammer 40,000 / (Fantasy) discussion thread.

[Immoren]

Warmachine, Gears of War, and Starcraft are all far superior to Warhammer 40K. As they say, the Emperor bro-tects.

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I have to admit that as TTG I like Warmachine over 40K. :/

[Volmachtia]

Warmachine, Gears of War, and Starcraft are all far superior to Warhammer 40K. As they say, the Emperor bro-tects.

Warmachine? Maaaybe.
Gears of war? No.
Starcraft? LOLNO

Starcraft is just a ripoff of 40k with really simplified factions and rednecks as the humans to look different.

[AETEN II]

Warmachine, Gears of War, and Starcraft are all far superior to Warhammer 40K. As they say, the Emperor bro-tects.

Warhammer is pretty deep man, and this is from somebody who only reads the wikis. The only thing that goes deeper is Star Wars and possibly Star Trek (not really). The EU in Star Wars is fuckin' huge and the lore is hilariously deep. The only thing that Warhammer has on Star Wars (but is also a big thing) is that from what I've seen they don't fuck with the fans and have an annual retcon fest.

[North Calaveras]

Warmachine, Gears of War, and Starcraft are all far superior to Warhammer 40K. As they say, the Emperor bro-tects.

Warmachine? Maaaybe.
Gears of war? No.
Starcraft? LOLNO

Starcraft is just a ripoff of 40k with really simplified factions and rednecks as the humans to look different.

I think starcraft has evolved very much into it's own however, plus some of the stuff in there would rape 40k.

Besides, lets not pull the " Rip-off" stuff here, even 40k is influenced by other settings(I wouldn't be surprised if Tyranids were inspired by Alien and Necrons from Terminator)

[AETEN II]

Warmachine? Maaaybe.
Gears of war? No.
Starcraft? LOLNO

Starcraft is just a ripoff of 40k with really simplified factions and rednecks as the humans to look different.

I think starcraft has evolved very much into it's own however, plus some of the stuff in there would rape 40k.

Besides, lets not pull the " Rip-off" stuff here, even 40k is influenced by other settings(I wouldn't be surprised if Tyranids were inspired by Alien and Necrons from Terminator)

Wouldn't be surprised? THEY WERE. It even is written on most wikis. Tyranids are certainly xenomorphs, thankfully they lack acid blood... for now.

[North Calaveras]

I think starcraft has evolved very much into it's own however, plus some of the stuff in there would rape 40k.

Besides, lets not pull the " Rip-off" stuff here, even 40k is influenced by other settings(I wouldn't be surprised if Tyranids were inspired by Alien and Necrons from Terminator)

Wouldn't be surprised? THEY WERE. It even is written on most wikis. Tyranids are certainly xenomorphs, thankfully they lack acid blood... for now.

I love both starcraft and Warhammer, though i grew up with more Starcraft(though im really getting into warhammer).

Always thought Zerg were ten times scarier looking than nids. Protoss are way better than what amounts to basically arrogant space elves.

[AETEN II]

Wouldn't be surprised? THEY WERE. It even is written on most wikis. Tyranids are certainly xenomorphs, thankfully they lack acid blood... for now.

I love both starcraft and Warhammer, though i grew up with more Starcraft(though im really getting into warhammer).

Always thought Zerg were ten times scarier looking than nids. Protoss are way better than what amounts to basically arrogant space elves.

Heresy, I intend to eventually start getting W40K stuff, and the Eldar are some of the most interesting races ever invented. Also one of the saddest, seeing how they're barely clinging on.

The Imperium really needs to ditch their xenophobia, seeing that it's unlikely they'll be able to survive without aid from the Eldar and possibly the Tau.

[North Calaveras]

I love both starcraft and Warhammer, though i grew up with more Starcraft(though im really getting into warhammer).

Always thought Zerg were ten times scarier looking than nids. Protoss are way better than what amounts to basically arrogant space elves.

Heresy, I intend to eventually start getting W40K stuff, and the Eldar are some of the most interesting races ever invented. Also one of the saddest, seeing how they're barely clinging on.

The Imperium really needs to ditch their xenophobia, seeing that it's unlikely they'll be able to survive without aid from the Eldar and possibly the Tau.

The Imperium wouldn't be the Imperium without there xenophobia it's just who they are in the setting. Besides there wont ever be an end to the 40k setting, cause then that would be the end of it all.

[AETEN II]

Heresy, I intend to eventually start getting W40K stuff, and the Eldar are some of the most interesting races ever invented. Also one of the saddest, seeing how they're barely clinging on.

The Imperium really needs to ditch their xenophobia, seeing that it's unlikely they'll be able to survive without aid from the Eldar and possibly the Tau.

The Imperium wouldn't be the Imperium without there xenophobia it's just who they are in the setting. Besides there wont ever be an end to the 40k setting, cause then that would be the end of it all.

The Imperium is going to need one fuckin' big Deus Ex Machina to get them out of the shitstorm ahead. Uber Ork WAAAGH!? Tyranids with Ork DNA? Tyranid fleet entering Imperium space? One helluva shark to jump.

[North Calaveras]

Meh, I just like the idea of a Protoss Zealot killing a space marine like hes nothing

[Mini Miehm]

Meh, I just like the idea of a Protoss Zealot killing a space marine like hes nothing

Except...No. Just no. Walk away.

[North Calaveras]

Meh, I just like the idea of a Protoss Zealot killing a space marine like hes nothing

Except...No. Just no. Walk away.

Ive seen many debates ending in the death of the space marine due to zealot pre-cog, there ability to transform into energy and reach there target. In melee the space marine is literally killed with one swift stroke before he realized what just materialized in front of him.

[Arkania 5]

The only thing stopping Protoss from competing with Warhammer 40k is their insanly low numbers. They have the technology, (warping time, psionics, stasis, gravity manipulation) to match the Necrons in some areas.

[Mini Miehm]

Except...No. Just no. Walk away.

Ive seen many debates ending in the death of the space marine due to zealot pre-cog, there ability to transform into energy and reach there target. In melee the space marine is literally killed with one swift stroke before he realized what just materialized in front of him.

That presumes that the psi-blade can ignore armor, and is treated as a power weapon. Zealots do not have a measurable precog. A Zealot attempting to close the range would be riddle with boltgun shells before he got close enough to activate his teleport ability.

[North Calaveras]

The only thing stopping Protoss from competing with Warhammer 40k is their insanly low numbers. They have the technology, (warping time, psionics, stasis, gravity manipulation) to match the Necrons in some areas.

That's what I hate about people arguing about how 40k is badass when the only thing that makes 40k more powerful is is massive amount of numbers, they aren't that strong individually. Hell guardsmen might have a powerful rifle but they have almost no armor, and for basic infantry no night vision or anything for CBN protection.

If the Terran Dominion was the same size as the Imperium the Imperium would be shitting itself.

[Arkania 5]

Ive seen many debates ending in the death of the space marine due to zealot pre-cog, there ability to transform into energy and reach there target. In melee the space marine is literally killed with one swift stroke before he realized what just materialized in front of him.

That presumes that the psi-blade can ignore armor, and is treated as a power weapon. Zealots do not have a measurable precog. A Zealot attempting to close the range would be riddle with boltgun shells before he got close enough to activate his teleport ability.

Actually, I'm pretty sure all Protoss have pre-cog.

[Mini Miehm]

The only thing stopping Protoss from competing with Warhammer 40k is their insanly low numbers. They have the technology, (warping time, psionics, stasis, gravity manipulation) to match the Necrons in some areas.

Except, they're no more outnumbered than the Eldar. They just have a much lower demonstrable tech level, since they get ganked by guns that have MUCH less power than even bolt pistols.

[North Calaveras]

Ive seen many debates ending in the death of the space marine due to zealot pre-cog, there ability to transform into energy and reach there target. In melee the space marine is literally killed with one swift stroke before he realized what just materialized in front of him.

That presumes that the psi-blade can ignore armor, and is treated as a power weapon. Zealots do not have a measurable precog. A Zealot attempting to close the range would be riddle with boltgun shells before he got close enough to activate his teleport ability.

I'm not talking game mechanics, they can litterally travel hundreds of feet in the blink of an eye(even if the bolter was fired it would simply pass through the energy that the protoss zealot turned himself into) Psi-Weapons I would consider them to be power weapons, or at least like lightsabers in terms of killing power. Not to mention the protss itself is ridiculous strong, that's without it's armor(i know space marines are strong to even without armor) Zealots also have power armor of there own and shielding.

Space Marines really aren't all destroying gods, it's just in this particular fight they are going to lose.

[Arkania 5]

The only thing stopping Protoss from competing with Warhammer 40k is their insanly low numbers. They have the technology, (warping time, psionics, stasis, gravity manipulation) to match the Necrons in some areas.

Except, they're no more outnumbered than the Eldar. They just have a much lower demonstrable tech level, since they get ganked by guns that have MUCH less power than even bolt pistols.

It's generally agreed that Protoss tech is more or less the same level as the Eldar and Necrons.

[Mini Miehm]

The only thing stopping Protoss from competing with Warhammer 40k is their insanly low numbers. They have the technology, (warping time, psionics, stasis, gravity manipulation) to match the Necrons in some areas.

That's what I hate about people arguing about how 40k is badass when the only thing that makes 40k more powerful is is massive amount of numbers, they aren't that strong individually. Hell guardsmen might have a powerful rifle but they have almost no armor, and for basic infantry no night vision or anything for CBN protection.

If the Terran Dominion was the same size as the Imperium the Imperium would be shitting itself.

Guard are meat. Their guns are crap. Astartes are physically the match of any Zealot. Their armor is TOUGH. They're VERY difficult to kill.

Necrons exceed pretty much every other polity in terms of technological advancement. And they're MUCH stronger than Astartes. Their major weakness is that they're slow in melee.

[North Calaveras]

The only thing stopping Protoss from competing with Warhammer 40k is their insanly low numbers. They have the technology, (warping time, psionics, stasis, gravity manipulation) to match the Necrons in some areas.

Except, they're no more outnumbered than the Eldar. They just have a much lower demonstrable tech level, since they get ganked by guns that have MUCH less power than even bolt pistols.

C-14 Gauss rifles fire ridiculous armor piercing spikes at even more ridiculous speeds, so much that they can be used as anti-aircraft guns(not even talking game mechanics here either) The bolter is basically a mini-rpg launcher in terms of action.

[North Calaveras]

That's what I hate about people arguing about how 40k is badass when the only thing that makes 40k more powerful is is massive amount of numbers, they aren't that strong individually. Hell guardsmen might have a powerful rifle but they have almost no armor, and for basic infantry no night vision or anything for CBN protection.

If the Terran Dominion was the same size as the Imperium the Imperium would be shitting itself.

Guard are meat. Their guns are crap. Astartes are physically the match of any Zealot. Their armor is TOUGH. They're VERY difficult to kill.

Necrons exceed pretty much every other polity in terms of technological advancement. And they're MUCH stronger than Astartes. Their major weakness is that they're slow in melee.

I'd love to see a equal number of guardsmen go toe to toe with Terran Marines

even the astartes would be killed quite quickly, I would say Astartes kick the shit out of terran space marines, but due to gauss rifles this is negated to a point.

[Mini Miehm]

Except, they're no more outnumbered than the Eldar. They just have a much lower demonstrable tech level, since they get ganked by guns that have MUCH less power than even bolt pistols.

It's generally agreed that Protoss tech is more or less the same level as the Eldar and Necrons.

Generally agreed by whom? Evidence(like them getting killed by Terran Marines) says they're not nearly as advanced as you would like them to be.

[Armageddon Steel Legion]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbcxXDMyVb0

I think 40K would win.


As the Guard would not run away like little girly-men.. Also.. BANE-BLADEEEES!

[Arkania 5]

Except, they're no more outnumbered than the Eldar. They just have a much lower demonstrable tech level, since they get ganked by guns that have MUCH less power than even bolt pistols.

C-14 Gauss rifles fire ridiculous armor piercing spikes at even more ridiculous speeds, so much that they can be used as anti-aircraft guns(not even talking game mechanics here either) The bolter is basically a mini-rpg launcher in terms of action.

Hypersonic depleted uranium spikes, to be exact.