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Which faction do you belong to?

Space Marines (Includes Grey Knights and non-Codex Astartes compliant chapters)
159
18%
Imperial Guard/Inquisition (Daemon Hunters/Sisters of Battle)
236
27%
Adeptus Mechanicus
47
5%
Eldar
52
6%
Dark Eldar
19
2%
Tyranids
33
4%
Orks
40
5%
Necrons
45
5%
Tau Empire
136
16%
Chaos (Chaos Legions/Chaos Daemons)
93
11%
 
Total votes : 860

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Postby The Nuclear Fist » Wed Aug 22, 2012 7:03 pm

Volmachtia wrote:
Carathon wrote:
Everything in warhammer is depressing and batshit insane.

See: Grimdark.

Check this out. It's a fairly elaborate fan-fiction about Warhammer 50k.
http://www.heresy-online.net/forums/sho ... hp?t=51806

It takes Grimdark and drives it off the cliff. Like, Age of Strife level grimdark.

Needs more Orks.
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Postby Volmachtia » Wed Aug 22, 2012 7:05 pm

The Nuclear Fist wrote:
Volmachtia wrote:Check this out. It's a fairly elaborate fan-fiction about Warhammer 50k.
http://www.heresy-online.net/forums/sho ... hp?t=51806

It takes Grimdark and drives it off the cliff. Like, Age of Strife level grimdark.

Needs more Orks.

It has Tyranorks.

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Postby Dorlania » Wed Aug 22, 2012 7:12 pm

Carathon wrote:
Dorlania wrote:i can now conclude the Death Korps are
-have the coolest regiments
-are depressing
-fucking batshit insane


Everything in warhammer is depressing and batshit insane.

See: Grimdark.

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Postby The Nuclear Fist » Wed Aug 22, 2012 7:12 pm

Volmachtia wrote:
The Nuclear Fist wrote:Needs more Orks.

It has Tyranorks.

Not good enough. The Orks will inherit the galaxy, and they very well might have already inherited all that surrounds it.
[23:24] <Marquesan> I have the feeling that all the porn videos you watch are like...set to Primus' music, Ulysses.
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Postby Indeos » Wed Aug 22, 2012 7:16 pm

The Nuclear Fist wrote:
Volmachtia wrote:It has Tyranorks.

Not good enough. The Orks will inherit the galaxy, and they very well might have already inherited all that surrounds it.


Or the Primarchs who disappeared may very well have raised new, powerful armies outside the galaxy and could be pushing the 'Nids toward what they believe is the solid core of the Imperium.
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Postby Volmachtia » Wed Aug 22, 2012 7:17 pm

The Nuclear Fist wrote:
Volmachtia wrote:It has Tyranorks.

Not good enough. The Orks will inherit the galaxy, and they very well might have already inherited all that surrounds it.

What was that bit about a Mechanicus probe that left the galaxy and only found a universe full of Orks?
I wish I knew what that was from.

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Postby The Nuclear Fist » Wed Aug 22, 2012 7:18 pm

Indeos wrote:Or the Primarchs who disappeared may very well have raised new, powerful armies outside the galaxy and could be pushing the 'Nids toward what they believe is the solid core of the Imperium.

I much prefer the idea of the other galaxies being overrun with massive Ork WAAAGHs that are driving the Tyranid hive fleets to the Milky Way.
[23:24] <Marquesan> I have the feeling that all the porn videos you watch are like...set to Primus' music, Ulysses.
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Postby Indeos » Wed Aug 22, 2012 7:19 pm

The Nuclear Fist wrote:
Indeos wrote:Or the Primarchs who disappeared may very well have raised new, powerful armies outside the galaxy and could be pushing the 'Nids toward what they believe is the solid core of the Imperium.

I much prefer the idea of the other galaxies being overrun with massive Ork WAAAGHs that are driving the Tyranid hive fleets to the Milky Way.


I know, but there are a lot of possibilities.
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Postby The Nuclear Fist » Wed Aug 22, 2012 7:20 pm

Indeos wrote:I know, but there are a lot of possibilities.

I feel like the Primarchs would do a lot more good inside the galaxy than out, considering there are no humans outside of the galaxy.
[23:24] <Marquesan> I have the feeling that all the porn videos you watch are like...set to Primus' music, Ulysses.
Farnhamia wrote:You're getting a little too fond of the jerkoff motions.
And you touch the distant beaches with tales of brave Ulysses. . .
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Postby Tagmatium » Wed Aug 22, 2012 7:22 pm

The Nuclear Fist wrote:
Indeos wrote:Or the Primarchs who disappeared may very well have raised new, powerful armies outside the galaxy and could be pushing the 'Nids toward what they believe is the solid core of the Imperium.

I much prefer the idea of the other galaxies being overrun with massive Ork WAAAGHs that are driving the Tyranid hive fleets to the Milky Way.

Don't seem the 'Nid way, though.

I'd imagine the 'Nids have eaten all those tasty Orks.
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Postby Indeos » Wed Aug 22, 2012 7:24 pm

The Nuclear Fist wrote:
Indeos wrote:I know, but there are a lot of possibilities.

I feel like the Primarchs would do a lot more good inside the galaxy than out, considering there are no humans outside of the galaxy.


There are, however, humans in the Warp, and all of the live, able ones went there. I wouldn't count out the idea of them converting an army back to the side of the Emperor and managing to get them out of the Warp, even if they came out in the wrong place.
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Postby Volmachtia » Wed Aug 22, 2012 7:28 pm

The Nuclear Fist wrote:
Indeos wrote:Or the Primarchs who disappeared may very well have raised new, powerful armies outside the galaxy and could be pushing the 'Nids toward what they believe is the solid core of the Imperium.

I much prefer the idea of the other galaxies being overrun with massive Ork WAAAGHs that are driving the Tyranid hive fleets to the Milky Way.

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Octariu ... DWT1sFlT4V
The two have already been going at it pretty seriously in here, too.

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Postby The Nuclear Fist » Wed Aug 22, 2012 7:28 pm

Tagmatium wrote:Don't seem the 'Nid way, though.

I'd imagine the 'Nids have eaten all those tasty Orks.

Except Orks get stronger with each battle. They get bigger, stronger, tougher, smarter. They adapt just as the Tyranids do. But more importantly, they also reproduce in extreme numbers. There is old fluff that states that Orks inhabit other galaxies. If the War on Octarius is anything to go by, the Orks are more than capable of holding their own against the Tyranids, and possibly even winning. Now if the Orks on Octarius have Grots the size of men, Boyz the size of Nobs, Nobs the size of Warbosses, and Warbosses the size of large tanks, imagine what galaxies of Orks who have nothing to fight but Tyranids would be like. Gargantuan, unstoppable juggernauts. I think the Tyranids are coming to the Milky Way in the hopes of escaping the Orks, are hoping to consume enough matter to batter off the Ork onslaught, are attracted to the Imperium, or are hoping occupying the Ork birthplace will do something.
[23:24] <Marquesan> I have the feeling that all the porn videos you watch are like...set to Primus' music, Ulysses.
Farnhamia wrote:You're getting a little too fond of the jerkoff motions.
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Postby The Nuclear Fist » Wed Aug 22, 2012 7:29 pm

Volmachtia wrote:
The Nuclear Fist wrote:I much prefer the idea of the other galaxies being overrun with massive Ork WAAAGHs that are driving the Tyranid hive fleets to the Milky Way.

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Octariu ... DWT1sFlT4V
The two have already been going at it pretty seriously in here, too.

I am aware.
[23:24] <Marquesan> I have the feeling that all the porn videos you watch are like...set to Primus' music, Ulysses.
Farnhamia wrote:You're getting a little too fond of the jerkoff motions.
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Postby Tagmatium » Wed Aug 22, 2012 7:37 pm

The Nuclear Fist wrote:
Tagmatium wrote:Don't seem the 'Nid way, though.

I'd imagine the 'Nids have eaten all those tasty Orks.

Except Orks get stronger with each battle. They get bigger, stronger, tougher, smarter. They adapt just as the Tyranids do. But more importantly, they also reproduce in extreme numbers. There is old fluff that states that Orks inhabit other galaxies. If the War on Octarius is anything to go by, the Orks are more than capable of holding their own against the Tyranids, and possibly even winning. Now if the Orks on Octarius have Grots the size of men, Boyz the size of Nobs, Nobs the size of Warbosses, and Warbosses the size of large tanks, imagine what galaxies of Orks who have nothing to fight but Tyranids would be like. Gargantuan, unstoppable juggernauts. I think the Tyranids are coming to the Milky Way in the hopes of escaping the Orks, are hoping to consume enough matter to batter off the Ork onslaught, are attracted to the Imperium, or are hoping occupying the Ork birthplace will do something.

It does depend, however, if that old fluff is still valid.

From the newer fluff that the 'Nid fleets are bearing down on the galaxy, I'd actually hazard it isn't valid any more. The 'Nids have been portrayed as extra-Galatic in the more recent fluff, but the Orks very much haven't. They are said to be one main by-products of the Old Ones vs the C'Tan/Necrontyr, which was something that was definitely located in our galaxy. I'd go as far as to say that the idea that there are Orks outside of "our" Galaxy is long dead and gone. But the 'Nids... they're still extra-Galatic, and they're coming in hard and will come in much, much more harder.

And, shit, I imagine you've read what a 'Nid invasion of a planet is like? That is far, far beyond the Orks to resist.
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Postby Arkania 5 » Wed Aug 22, 2012 7:37 pm

Volmachtia wrote:
The Nuclear Fist wrote:Needs more Orks.

It has Tyranorks.


Dragon Transcendent? Does that mean that the Void Dragon broke out?
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Postby Volmachtia » Wed Aug 22, 2012 7:40 pm

Arkania 5 wrote:
Volmachtia wrote:It has Tyranorks.


Dragon Transcendent? Does that mean that the Void Dragon broke out?

Abaddon stuck him inside the Sol system, though. But yes, he got out and is ruling much of the Mechanicus and Necrons.

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Postby Indeos » Wed Aug 22, 2012 7:40 pm

Tagmatium wrote:
The Nuclear Fist wrote:Except Orks get stronger with each battle. They get bigger, stronger, tougher, smarter. They adapt just as the Tyranids do. But more importantly, they also reproduce in extreme numbers. There is old fluff that states that Orks inhabit other galaxies. If the War on Octarius is anything to go by, the Orks are more than capable of holding their own against the Tyranids, and possibly even winning. Now if the Orks on Octarius have Grots the size of men, Boyz the size of Nobs, Nobs the size of Warbosses, and Warbosses the size of large tanks, imagine what galaxies of Orks who have nothing to fight but Tyranids would be like. Gargantuan, unstoppable juggernauts. I think the Tyranids are coming to the Milky Way in the hopes of escaping the Orks, are hoping to consume enough matter to batter off the Ork onslaught, are attracted to the Imperium, or are hoping occupying the Ork birthplace will do something.

It does depend, however, if that old fluff is still valid.

From the newer fluff that the 'Nid fleets are bearing down on the galaxy, I'd actually hazard it isn't valid any more. The 'Nids have been portrayed as extra-Galatic in the more recent fluff, but the Orks very much haven't. They are said to be one main by-products of the Old Ones vs the C'Tan/Necrontyr, which was something that was definitely located in our galaxy. I'd go as far as to say that the idea that there are Orks outside of "our" Galaxy is long dead and gone. But the 'Nids... they're still extra-Galatic, and they're coming in hard and will come in much, much more harder.

And, shit, I imagine you've read what a 'Nid invasion of a planet is like? That is far, far beyond the Orks to resist.


They've managed pretty well on Octarius, and anywhere there's a big battle being fought will attract more Orks from everywhere.
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Postby Tagmatium » Wed Aug 22, 2012 7:40 pm

Arkania 5 wrote:
Volmachtia wrote:It has Tyranorks.

Dragon Transcendent? Does that mean that the Void Dragon broke out?

Biovore.

Late 4th/early 5th (I think), but that was 'Nid-modified Ork genetic material, made to lob spore mines at the enemy.
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Postby Tagmatium » Wed Aug 22, 2012 7:43 pm

Indeos wrote:They've managed pretty well on Octarius, and anywhere there's a big battle being fought will attract more Orks from everywhere.

"Managed pretty well" does not equal "beating the 'Nids", though.

The Ultramarines "managed pretty well" on Macragge.
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Postby Indeos » Wed Aug 22, 2012 7:44 pm

Interesting: the Eldar had nothing to do with Octarius. I think a few people have said they did before.
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Postby The Nuclear Fist » Wed Aug 22, 2012 7:45 pm

Tagmatium wrote:
Indeos wrote:They've managed pretty well on Octarius, and anywhere there's a big battle being fought will attract more Orks from everywhere.

"Managed pretty well" does not equal "beating the 'Nids", though.

The Ultramarines "managed pretty well" on Macragge.

Except the Orks on Octarius have forced the Tyranids into a brutal gridlock, and the Orks are getting an exponential supply of reinforcements from Boyz travelling far and wide and from their own spores.

Also, I really don't think that the old Ork fluff is invalid just yet, as it has yet to be contradicted. It isn't so much that they're an extragalactic species, just that Imperial scouting vessels that have explored the outer edges of other galaxies have found Orks to be living in them.
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Postby Tagmatium » Wed Aug 22, 2012 7:46 pm

Indeos wrote:Interesting: the Eldar had nothing to do with Octarius. I think a few people have said they did before.

Well, to be fair, the fluff hasn't so far said that the Eldar have anything to do Octarius.
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Postby Indeos » Wed Aug 22, 2012 7:47 pm

Tagmatium wrote:
Indeos wrote:Interesting: the Eldar had nothing to do with Octarius. I think a few people have said they did before.

Well, to be fair, the fluff hasn't so far said that the Eldar have anything to do Octarius.


They're involved, but didn't start the war. An Inquisitor did, actually, and the war probably won't end any time soon.
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Postby Volmachtia » Wed Aug 22, 2012 7:50 pm

Indeos wrote:
Tagmatium wrote:Well, to be fair, the fluff hasn't so far said that the Eldar have anything to do Octarius.


They're involved, but didn't start the war. An Inquisitor did, actually, and the war probably won't end any time soon.

It's sad that our first attempt at grand-scale manipulation of events turns into a galaxy-scale war.
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