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Postby The Darkhill People » Tue Nov 25, 2014 2:07 pm

Licana wrote:#1_Polo_Player_Ustio

Just remember, he had a girlfriend in high school. ;-;


Dude we all know PJ was bi. I mean, c'mon. How can he not be? :roll:

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Postby Transnapastain » Tue Nov 25, 2014 2:12 pm

Licana wrote:#1_Polo_Player_Ustio


We talkin about the game with the horses?

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Postby Monfrox » Tue Nov 25, 2014 2:13 pm

Gaiserin wrote:
San-Silvacian wrote:PJ: #1 at eating lasers and being annoying as fuck.

It sucks to be the new guy.

It sucks even worse when your the perpetual new guy. Like, no matter what you do, you'll always be the new guy.
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Postby Gaiserin » Tue Nov 25, 2014 2:30 pm

Monfrox wrote:
Gaiserin wrote:It sucks to be the new guy.

It sucks even worse when your the perpetual new guy. Like, no matter what you do, you'll always be the new guy.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RememberTheNewGuy
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Postby Transnapastain » Tue Nov 25, 2014 2:30 pm

Monfrox wrote:
Gaiserin wrote:It sucks to be the new guy.

It sucks even worse when your the perpetual new guy. Like, no matter what you do, you'll always be the new guy.


You still haven't answered my question about Cinnamon

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Postby Puzikas » Tue Nov 25, 2014 2:33 pm

San-Silvacian wrote:More than likely with the fact they could invade North Point, the BB would have been a great asset to support any naval invasion, considering a 16 inch shell can easily decimate an entire football field.

Also,

I was just a child when the skrebbies fell from the sky. But I remember how they made Team Deathmatch to destroy them, and in turn, how Team Deathmatch brought war upon us. Team Deathmatch was an abstract idea, nothing more than that option on my starting menu. As a child, I only saw it as something that happened on some far away server...

Until the first day of the new update...

One day while bomb-karting my way to MVP, I looked into the blue skies above me.

A distant sound of thunder. In the blue skies far above me, contrails drew dazzling circles around in a lulzy furball. A rektening in the blue skies far away...

I could not tear my gaze away from them. A deafening roar, an then sharp silhouettes appeared as if to graze my wingtips as they streaked by me. The fighters playing a game of "Oh God don't kill me pls" as they climbed into the sky.

One skrebby fell out of the skies, spiralling and spewing failure to crash by the cape.

The same cape, where muh guntower was.

Now muh guntower lives in the memories of sorties past. The victor circled around to confirmed he took muh guntower. And as he flew off into the distance, I could hear a distant whisper in my ear.

"rip"



I laughed, I cried, I crashed into one of Stonehenges carry handles.

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Postby USNER » Tue Nov 25, 2014 2:41 pm

I found and old copy of "Zero" on the internet.
I can't decide which Ace Style to start with, any Ideas ?

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Postby Licana » Tue Nov 25, 2014 2:42 pm

Always mercenary.
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Puzikas wrote:Gulf War One was like Slapstick: The War. Except, you know, up to 40,000 people died.

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Vitaphone Racing wrote:Do lets. I really want to hear another explanation about dirty vaginas keeping women out of combat, despite the vagina being a self-cleaning organ.

So was the M-16.

Senestrum wrote:How are KEPs cowardly? Surely the "real man" would in fact be the one firing giant rods of nuclear waste at speeds best described as "hilarious".

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Postby Monfrox » Tue Nov 25, 2014 2:48 pm

My first playthrough I did I went Soldier style.
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Postby Marsisian » Tue Nov 25, 2014 3:01 pm

USNER wrote:I found and old copy of "Zero" on the internet.
I can't decide which Ace Style to start with, any Ideas ?

I did Knight. It gave you less money but it was a good feeling to have in your mind that you were respected highly by your adversaries and allies.
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Postby Licana » Tue Nov 25, 2014 3:05 pm

Knight a shit, and the knight squadrons are lame.

At least Schnee 1 was the coolest guy ever, and Gault was gr8st squadron, so there's some pluses to Soldier.
>American education
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Puzikas wrote:Gulf War One was like Slapstick: The War. Except, you know, up to 40,000 people died.

Vitaphone Racing wrote:Never in all my years have I seen someone actually quote the dictionary and still get the definition wrong.

Husseinarti wrote:
Vitaphone Racing wrote:Do lets. I really want to hear another explanation about dirty vaginas keeping women out of combat, despite the vagina being a self-cleaning organ.

So was the M-16.

Senestrum wrote:How are KEPs cowardly? Surely the "real man" would in fact be the one firing giant rods of nuclear waste at speeds best described as "hilarious".

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Postby Marsisian » Tue Nov 25, 2014 3:09 pm

Licana wrote:Knight a shit, and the knight squadrons are lame.

At least Schnee 1 was the coolest guy ever, and Gault was gr8st squadron, so there's some pluses to Soldier.

In my personal opinion I think Rot Team was the best out of all of the Merc squadrons.
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Postby The balkens » Tue Nov 25, 2014 3:09 pm

;-;

Some of you peeps have no honor it seems.

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Postby Licana » Tue Nov 25, 2014 3:11 pm

Best merc squadron was obvious Schwarze.
>American education
[19:21] <Lubyak> I want to go and wank all over him.
Puzikas wrote:Gulf War One was like Slapstick: The War. Except, you know, up to 40,000 people died.

Vitaphone Racing wrote:Never in all my years have I seen someone actually quote the dictionary and still get the definition wrong.

Husseinarti wrote:
Vitaphone Racing wrote:Do lets. I really want to hear another explanation about dirty vaginas keeping women out of combat, despite the vagina being a self-cleaning organ.

So was the M-16.

Senestrum wrote:How are KEPs cowardly? Surely the "real man" would in fact be the one firing giant rods of nuclear waste at speeds best described as "hilarious".

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Postby Transnapastain » Tue Nov 25, 2014 3:22 pm

Marsisian wrote:
USNER wrote:I found and old copy of "Zero" on the internet.
I can't decide which Ace Style to start with, any Ideas ?

I did Knight. It gave you less money but it was a good feeling to have in your mind that you were respected highly by your adversaries and allies.


Meanwhile, I take great delight in specifically choosing a plane with napalm in Hoffnung....cause those trucks full of wounded aren't going to crisp themselves.

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Postby Marsisian » Tue Nov 25, 2014 3:24 pm

Transnapastain wrote:
Marsisian wrote:I did Knight. It gave you less money but it was a good feeling to have in your mind that you were respected highly by your adversaries and allies.


Meanwhile, I take great delight in specifically choosing a plane with napalm in Hoffnung....cause those trucks full of wounded aren't going to crisp themselves.

:shock:
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Postby Puzikas » Tue Nov 25, 2014 3:28 pm

Transnapastain wrote:
Marsisian wrote:I did Knight. It gave you less money but it was a good feeling to have in your mind that you were respected highly by your adversaries and allies.


Meanwhile, I take great delight in specifically choosing a plane with napalm in Hoffnung....cause those trucks full of wounded aren't going to crisp themselves.


Bacon, anyone?
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Postby Eastern Equestria » Tue Nov 25, 2014 4:56 pm

Licana wrote:Always mercenary.


Licana wrote:Knight a shit, and the knight squadrons are lame.

At least Schnee 1 was the coolest guy ever, and Gault was gr8st squadron, so there's some pluses to Soldier.


Licana wrote:Best merc squadron was obvious Schwarze.


This guy fuckin' gets it. He sees the world for how it truly is.

Licana wrote:I literally remember only like three songs from AC5. Coincidentally, this is about as many as I remember from ACZ, which had a smaller soundtrack.

ACZ's missions and combat AI were also far, far better than AC5.


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Postby Licana » Tue Nov 25, 2014 4:57 pm

Having recently replayed through both games, it's kind of hard to not state that ACZ's missions were not more intense and better paced and their AI was much, much better. This is especially true for their ace squadrons.
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Puzikas wrote:Gulf War One was like Slapstick: The War. Except, you know, up to 40,000 people died.

Vitaphone Racing wrote:Never in all my years have I seen someone actually quote the dictionary and still get the definition wrong.

Husseinarti wrote:
Vitaphone Racing wrote:Do lets. I really want to hear another explanation about dirty vaginas keeping women out of combat, despite the vagina being a self-cleaning organ.

So was the M-16.

Senestrum wrote:How are KEPs cowardly? Surely the "real man" would in fact be the one firing giant rods of nuclear waste at speeds best described as "hilarious".

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Postby Eastern Equestria » Tue Nov 25, 2014 5:16 pm

Licana wrote:Having recently replayed through both games, it's kind of hard to not state that ACZ's missions were not more intense and better paced and their AI was much, much better. This is especially true for their ace squadrons.


The enemy Ace Squadrons didn't play even close to as large of a role in AC5 as they did in ACZ. Yes, they were central antagonists, but you only actually faced them a small fraction of the amount of times as in ACZ. And while Ofnir and Grabach's AI weren't stupendous, the enemy ace squadron's AI in ACZ weren't revolutionarily better. They could still be beaten by exploiting the same tactics.

Also I don't think it's true across the board that ACZ's missions were more intense and well paced across the board. AC5 had some excellently fleshed out and well paced missions in my opinion. And it had some pretty intense moments. "Journey Home", "Naval Blockade" and "First Flight" come to mind. And yes, there were also the boring, filler missions that exist solely to drive the plot. But it's one hell of a plot.

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Postby New Babylonia » Tue Nov 25, 2014 5:17 pm

Eastern Equestria wrote:
Licana wrote:Having recently replayed through both games, it's kind of hard to not state that ACZ's missions were not more intense and better paced and their AI was much, much better. This is especially true for their ace squadrons.


The enemy Ace Squadrons didn't play even close to as large of a role in AC5 as they did in ACZ. Yes, they were central antagonists, but you only actually faced them a small fraction of the amount of times as in ACZ. And while Ofnir and Grabach's AI weren't stupendous, the enemy ace squadron's AI in ACZ weren't revolutionarily better. They could still be beaten by exploiting the same tactics.

Also I don't think it's true across the board that ACZ's missions were more intense and well paced across the board. AC5 had some excellently fleshed out and well paced missions in my opinion. And it had some pretty intense moments. "Journey Home", "Naval Blockade" and "First Flight" come to mind. And yes, there were also the boring, filler missions that exist solely to drive the plot. But it's one hell of a plot.

That last line is true of every AC except AH and partially Infinity because i haven't played it :(
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Postby Eastern Equestria » Tue Nov 25, 2014 5:27 pm

New Babylonia wrote:
Eastern Equestria wrote:
The enemy Ace Squadrons didn't play even close to as large of a role in AC5 as they did in ACZ. Yes, they were central antagonists, but you only actually faced them a small fraction of the amount of times as in ACZ. And while Ofnir and Grabach's AI weren't stupendous, the enemy ace squadron's AI in ACZ weren't revolutionarily better. They could still be beaten by exploiting the same tactics.

Also I don't think it's true across the board that ACZ's missions were more intense and well paced across the board. AC5 had some excellently fleshed out and well paced missions in my opinion. And it had some pretty intense moments. "Journey Home", "Naval Blockade" and "First Flight" come to mind. And yes, there were also the boring, filler missions that exist solely to drive the plot. But it's one hell of a plot.

That last line is true of every AC except AH and partially Infinity because i haven't played it :(


Ace Combat 5's story had the best characterization by a wide margin, and it had the most depth.

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Postby Licana » Tue Nov 25, 2014 5:31 pm

Eastern Equestria wrote:The enemy Ace Squadrons didn't play even close to as large of a role in AC5 as they did in ACZ. Yes, they were central antagonists, but you only actually faced them a small fraction of the amount of times as in ACZ.

You have more fights against ace squadrons in Zero than you do in 5. Granted, they are different squadrons and generally don't matter much for the plot, but then again, Zero's plot holds up on its own without the need for that. This is hardly a detraction from it, either.

Eastern Equestria wrote:And while Ofnir and Grabach's AI weren't stupendous, the enemy ace squadron's AI in ACZ weren't revolutionarily better. They could still be beaten by exploiting the same tactics.

They used unit tactics, which puts them leaps ahead of Ofnir and Grabacr, who were among the most unimpressive of the squadrons in ace combat to date.

Eastern Equestria wrote:Also I don't think it's true across the board that ACZ's missions were more intense and well paced across the board. AC5 had some excellently fleshed out and well paced missions in my opinion. And it had some pretty intense moments. "Journey Home", "Naval Blockade" and "First Flight" come to mind. And yes, there were also the boring, filler missions that exist solely to drive the plot. But it's one hell of a plot.


As I was just saying to a buddy and fellow fan of the series, my more recent playthrough has made me appreciate Ace Combat 5 and it's much lauded plot much less. It certainly stands out above the others for attempted depth, but that is literally only because it had significantly more missions to work with, with several of them being filler as described and are both boring and kill the pacing. It's at the point where I much rather prefer AC04 or ACZ's pacing over AC5's plot, especially since I've played through it more than once. Additionally, and this could just be Ace Combat 6 absolutely ruining my ability to appreciate the small scale of the previous ace combats, but I feel like AC5 spends far too long building up to this grand finale which then proceeds to fall completely flat on its face, having some of the least epic or otherwise impressive final missions of the entire series that I have played.

edit: and you can say that AC5 had the best characterization, but that doesn't change the fact that it spent most of that trying to make its characters annoying as hell.
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[19:21] <Lubyak> I want to go and wank all over him.
Puzikas wrote:Gulf War One was like Slapstick: The War. Except, you know, up to 40,000 people died.

Vitaphone Racing wrote:Never in all my years have I seen someone actually quote the dictionary and still get the definition wrong.

Husseinarti wrote:
Vitaphone Racing wrote:Do lets. I really want to hear another explanation about dirty vaginas keeping women out of combat, despite the vagina being a self-cleaning organ.

So was the M-16.

Senestrum wrote:How are KEPs cowardly? Surely the "real man" would in fact be the one firing giant rods of nuclear waste at speeds best described as "hilarious".

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Postby New Babylonia » Tue Nov 25, 2014 5:34 pm

Eastern Equestria wrote:
New Babylonia wrote:That last line is true of every AC except AH and partially Infinity because i haven't played it :(


Ace Combat 5's story had the best characterization by a wide margin, and it had the most depth.

AC5 also had 29 missions to ACZ 18. More missions = more everything, good and bad. And when AC does something good, holy fuck is it good. So of course it looks that way, because AC5 is a bigger game, and more awesome.

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Postby The balkens » Tue Nov 25, 2014 5:43 pm

Next, i shall be playing AC4.

type in what i should drink.

Trust me, i am full stocked.

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