Civilization V Discussion

[AETEN II]

Just finished with Maria Theresa (Austria) on Warlord, Huge Continents maps. Pretty fun, and I love the addition of religion (just got Gods and Kings ofc) finally manged to scrape out a Space Victory after conquering all the nations on my own continent and most on the other. City state buying a huge advantage when it comes to that ofc.

Diplomatic marriage seems overpowered IMO.
1.) you get an entire new fully-developed city with fully developed lands around it at just 500 gold+the money you invest to get it to ally. Seeing as a normal settler already costs 500 gold to rushbuy, that seems like an insanely good price
2.) you get free units when you diplomarry. If the civ you're marrying to is militaristic you can easily get ten or more free units.
3.) On higher difficulties, the AI is incredibly coup-happy and they have a lot of gold to spend on city-states. That means that even diplomatic civs like the Greeks will have trouble maintaining more than a handful of city-state allies at any given time. As Austria you can simply annex the city states, prevent your opponents from getting an ally and making it easier for you to keep the few city states that are still around allied. You might not get a lot of free units/food/happiness/culture from the city states, but neither will your opponents.

Settlers only cost me three hundred gold.

Also, several things. From now on I'm using Autocracy, and I now have taken over South America entirely and own every bit of it. Still haven't attacked Arabia, but I've mounted my assault on Asika and have taken two of his cities with a D-Day style beach landing. His capital's mine, but he's apparently settled his other cities elsewhere so now I have to search for the sonofabitch and scour Africa. Least I've got an open borders treaty with Bismark so I can freely explore.

[Aethyopea]

Diplomatic marriage seems overpowered IMO.
1.) you get an entire new fully-developed city with fully developed lands around it at just 500 gold+the money you invest to get it to ally. Seeing as a normal settler already costs 500 gold to rushbuy, that seems like an insanely good price
2.) you get free units when you diplomarry. If the civ you're marrying to is militaristic you can easily get ten or more free units.
3.) On higher difficulties, the AI is incredibly coup-happy and they have a lot of gold to spend on city-states. That means that even diplomatic civs like the Greeks will have trouble maintaining more than a handful of city-state allies at any given time. As Austria you can simply annex the city states, prevent your opponents from getting an ally and making it easier for you to keep the few city states that are still around allied. You might not get a lot of free units/food/happiness/culture from the city states, but neither will your opponents.

Settlers only cost me three hundred gold.

I've just checked: settlers cost 500 gold in a standard speed game. It's workers that cost 300 gold.
They do cost around 360 gold in a high speed game, but not in a standard one.

[AETEN II]

Settlers only cost me three hundred gold.

I've just checked: settlers cost 500 gold in a standard speed game. It's workers that cost 300 gold.
They do cost around 360 gold in a high speed game, but not in a standard one.

I play the standard speed. I just adopt policies and build natural wonders.

[Aethyopea]

I've just checked: settlers cost 500 gold in a standard speed game. It's workers that cost 300 gold.
They do cost around 360 gold in a high speed game, but not in a standard one.

I play the standard speed. I just adopt policies and build natural wonders.

You build natural wonders?

[AETEN II]

I play the standard speed. I just adopt policies and build natural wonders.

You build natural wonders?

Fuck. I mean world wonders. Monuments. Whatever the hell you want to call them. But yeah, I typically select them based on bonuses they supply. Plus the policy tree is great, and from now on I'm going with autocracy.

[Gratislavia]

Just finished with Maria Theresa (Austria) on Warlord, Huge Continents maps. Pretty fun, and I love the addition of religion (just got Gods and Kings ofc) finally manged to scrape out a Space Victory after conquering all the nations on my own continent and most on the other. City state buying a huge advantage when it comes to that ofc.

Diplomatic marriage seems overpowered IMO.
1.) you get an entire new fully-developed city with fully developed lands around it at just 500 gold+the money you invest to get it to ally. Seeing as a normal settler already costs 500 gold to rushbuy, that seems like an insanely good price
2.) you get free units when you diplomarry. If the civ you're marrying to is militaristic you can easily get ten or more free units.
3.) On higher difficulties, the AI is incredibly coup-happy and they have a lot of gold to spend on city-states. That means that even diplomatic civs like the Greeks will have trouble maintaining more than a handful of city-state allies at any given time. As Austria you can simply annex the city states, prevent your opponents from getting an ally and making it easier for you to keep the few city states that are still around allied. You might not get a lot of free units/food/happiness/culture from the city states, but neither will your opponents.

Aye it's overpowered and all, but I thought I'd give it a go to start my Gods and Kings experience. Any suggestions as far as civilizations for the next play through go?

[AETEN II]

France, America, and Germany are great for the warmongering conqueror.

[Wisconsin9]

France, America, and Germany are great for the warmongering conqueror.

And Russia. The strategic resource bonus is amazing, especially once you get to nukes.

[Bordurian]

Playing a game as the Maya. love spying in it for G&K.

[Wisconsin9]

Never commit to a war until you're sure you can win. In other words, never save the game until you've already done so. Which is my plan for taking on Japan again.

[Czechanada]

Never commit to a war until you're sure you can win. In other words, never save the game until you've already done so. Which is my plan for taking on Japan again.

But that's the thing. You can never be sure when you'll win a war.

[Bordurian]

Never commit to a war until you're sure you can win. In other words, never save the game until you've already done so. Which is my plan for taking on Japan again.

But that's the thing. You can never be sure when you'll win a war.

In Civ, it's easy.

[Wisconsin9]

Never commit to a war until you're sure you can win. In other words, never save the game until you've already done so. Which is my plan for taking on Japan again.

But that's the thing. You can never be sure when you'll win a war.

Exactly. Don't save the game until the war's already over. Then you can just load it back up.

[Wisconsin9]

Well, that went exceptionally well.

[Bordurian]

Well, that went exceptionally well.

Used my Spy knowledge to beat Germany.

[Wisconsin9]

Well, that went exceptionally well.

Used my Spy knowledge to beat Germany.

Nice. I just captured Kyoto with a grand total of two units lost, one on land and one on sea. Oda now only has one city, and his Great General was destroyed when I took Kyoto.

[AETEN II]

I finally got a science victory as Napoleon. Also, in a lulzy turn of events, Gandhi turned into Indian Hitler. He started in Norway and swept down apparently, wiping out three civs, Britain, the Ottoman Empire, and China. Meanwhile I completely took over the Americas, destroyed Russia and the Mongols, but still left the last two cities Arabia had unsacked. I then moved over to Africa in the modern age with a massive fleet (five carriers with the maximum amount of fighters and bombers, six destroyers, five subs, and six battleships) and then bought ten mechanized infantry units when I attacked Asika with the aid of Montezuma (who remained my bro through the entire game, only denounced me at the very end), and I left Asika's last city alive. Then I declared war on Gandhi and kicked his ass and destroyed him.

Still fucked up though.

[Wisconsin9]

I finally got a science victory as Napoleon. Also, in a lulzy turn of events, Gandhi turned into Indian Hitler. He started in Norway and swept down apparently, wiping out three civs, Britain, the Ottoman Empire, and China. Meanwhile I completely took over the Americas, destroyed Russia and the Mongols, but still left the last two cities Arabia had unsacked. I then moved over to Africa in the modern age with a massive fleet (five carriers with the maximum amount of fighters and bombers, six destroyers, five subs, and six battleships) and then bought ten mechanized infantry units when I attacked Asika with the aid of Montezuma (who remained my bro through the entire game, only denounced me at the very end), and I left Asika's last city alive. Then I declared war on Gandhi and kicked his ass and destroyed him.

Still fucked up though.

Gandhi always does that. I think it had to do with a glitch in one of the original games, where his aggression count went so low it got into the negatives, and thus wrapped back around to the maximum.

[AETEN II]

I finally got a science victory as Napoleon. Also, in a lulzy turn of events, Gandhi turned into Indian Hitler. He started in Norway and swept down apparently, wiping out three civs, Britain, the Ottoman Empire, and China. Meanwhile I completely took over the Americas, destroyed Russia and the Mongols, but still left the last two cities Arabia had unsacked. I then moved over to Africa in the modern age with a massive fleet (five carriers with the maximum amount of fighters and bombers, six destroyers, five subs, and six battleships) and then bought ten mechanized infantry units when I attacked Asika with the aid of Montezuma (who remained my bro through the entire game, only denounced me at the very end), and I left Asika's last city alive. Then I declared war on Gandhi and kicked his ass and destroyed him.

Still fucked up though.

Gandhi always does that. I think it had to do with a glitch in one of the original games, where his aggression count went so low it got into the negatives, and thus wrapped back around to the maximum.

Least I now know that whenever I encounter him, I should immediately denounce him and declare war.

[The United Soviet Socialist Republic]

Hmmm, I'm considering buying Civ V. How much is it?

[Wisconsin9]

Hmmm, I'm considering buying Civ V. How much is it?

30 dollars on Steam, 50 for the game of the year edition.

[The United Soviet Socialist Republic]

Hmmm, I'm considering buying Civ V. How much is it?

30 dollars on Steam, 50 for the game of the year edition.

Mmm...I could buy 5 PS2 games for that, but it does seem fun.

[Wisconsin9]

Well, I've finally gotten around to sending a trireme north to Asia. So far I've met China and the Aztecs from actual coties, and Austrian forces (who I strogly suspect were invading China).

[The United Soviet Socialist Republic]

Well, I've finally gotten around to sending a trireme north to Asia. So far I've met China and the Aztecs from actual coties, and Austrian forces (who I strogly suspect were invading China).

Build an army and invade China. Be nice to the Austrians and be allies with them. Ignore the Aztecs.

[Wisconsin9]

Well, I've finally gotten around to sending a trireme north to Asia. So far I've met China and the Aztecs from actual coties, and Austrian forces (who I strogly suspect were invading China).

Build an army and invade China. Be nice to the Austrians and be allies with them. Ignore the Aztecs.

I have no intention of going to war with anyone except Japan and possibly Rome in the foreseeable future. And maybe a few city-states. I want to play a mostly peaceful game this time around. And by that, I mean that I want to see how long it'll be before I get bored and nuke everyone else out of reality.