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Okay, this joke is getting old now.
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Ameriganastan wrote:Okay, this joke is getting old now.

Joke?

Heh.
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discoursedrome wrote:everyone knows that quote, "I know not what weapons World War Three will be fought, but World War Four will be fought with sticks and stones," but in a way it's optimistic and inspiring because it suggests that even after destroying civilization and returning to the stone age we'll still be sufficiently globalized and bellicose to have another world war right then and there

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Postby Nationalist State of Knox » Thu Nov 15, 2012 11:47 pm

Le Sombra vs le Shining Armour


That...is...brilliant.
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Yeah, well...mine's bigger!

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Fuck you, Cloudchaser! Octy's awesome!



I approve of the dancing.

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:oops: Hey at least I tried!

Immoren wrote:Cute


I love my filly! :3

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I'd play it.



I'd hug it.
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Nationalist State of Knox wrote:So it was. So it was...

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discoursedrome wrote:everyone knows that quote, "I know not what weapons World War Three will be fought, but World War Four will be fought with sticks and stones," but in a way it's optimistic and inspiring because it suggests that even after destroying civilization and returning to the stone age we'll still be sufficiently globalized and bellicose to have another world war right then and there

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Nationalist State of Knox wrote:So it was. So it was...


:palm: :lol:
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Ceffyltir wrote:Oh goddesses, these are hilarious for some reason.


"Stay out of trouble, Unicorn/Earth pony/Kinsman."
"I wonder what it's like for those Changelings, now that they've been taken down a notch."
"Now I remember... you're that new member of the companions. So you, what... fetch the cider?"
"Imagine... blowing up an entire town. Damn college. Canterlot will never be the same."
"Psst... Hey. I know who you are. Hail Sombre."
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discoursedrome wrote:everyone knows that quote, "I know not what weapons World War Three will be fought, but World War Four will be fought with sticks and stones," but in a way it's optimistic and inspiring because it suggests that even after destroying civilization and returning to the stone age we'll still be sufficiently globalized and bellicose to have another world war right then and there

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Postby Khornate Worshippers » Fri Nov 16, 2012 2:17 am

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Ameriganastan wrote:I wasn't aware I had a reputation worth knowing on DA. Also, why are you doing that weird "Ceterum censeo" thing every post?

*shrug* Maybe you're reputation as a judgmental jerk has spread. Or maybe he's seen some of your comments on other stuff and decided he doesn't like you. I dunno, I'm not him. And the Ceterum censeo thing is referencing Cato the Elder, who would end every speech with "Furthermore, I think that Carthage must be destroyed." I'm suggesting we destroy 4chan.


Ceterum censeo 4chan delendam esse.


Of course, the Latin is wrong. What you want is "Ceterum censeo quartum canalem delendum esse".
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Cheffy, I have something for you.

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Postby Skgorria » Fri Nov 16, 2012 3:06 am

Mornin' all

New Naephak wrote:Cheffy, I have something for you.

Analytical Proof of Applejack's Superiority.jpg


Best. Picture. Ever.

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discoursedrome wrote:everyone knows that quote, "I know not what weapons World War Three will be fought, but World War Four will be fought with sticks and stones," but in a way it's optimistic and inspiring because it suggests that even after destroying civilization and returning to the stone age we'll still be sufficiently globalized and bellicose to have another world war right then and there

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Nationalist State of Knox wrote:
Mad hatters in jeans wrote:Thank Dashie ^_^

Let me think about that...

Let me put it this way.
Thank dashie or get that cadence flag up.


dawwww
Ceffyltir wrote:Lyra Time.

She's watching my little human friendship is magic again

Umbra Ac Silentium wrote:Omg there are so many people who like MLP at my college
Backpacks and shirts with ponies everywhere :3

You must acquire one of them, for the good of the thread.


Ceffy quality image dump. awesome

Immoren wrote:...

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New Naephak wrote:Cheffy, I have something for you.

Trust me, call him Ceffy. cheffy has some weird definitions in urban dictionary
:?



It's awesome


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Mad hatters in jeans wrote:
New Naephak wrote:Cheffy, I have something for you.

Trust me, call him Ceffy. cheffy has some weird definitions in urban dictionary
:?


*checks* Yep, those sure are some strange definitions. Nothing I can thatmakesmemoist.jpg at, unfortunately.



>posts on AJ not being best pony
>uses AJ pic
>mfw

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New Naephak wrote:
Mad hatters in jeans wrote:
Trust me, call him Ceffy. cheffy has some weird definitions in urban dictionary
:?


*checks* Yep, those sure are some strange definitions. Nothing I can thatmakesmemoist.jpg at, unfortunately.

Soxastan wrote:
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>posts on AJ not being best pony
>uses AJ pic
>mfw


Trolling is a art :p

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Postby Khornate Worshippers » Fri Nov 16, 2012 5:27 am

Well, watched the premiere.

First half was barely watchable, but at least it showed some needless courage from Shining Armour, which is always good. Sombra was...I dunno, evil, I guess? What I'd have liked to have seen is the black crystals on his horn start to grow, like the other Sombra effected crystals, and start to infest him, maybe with him being Sombra's dragon.

Crystal ponies were all earth ponies, but there was at least one yeoman among them (see S2E1, statue garden)...though with one of the least military personalities I've seen on a pony. Lances as well, though of course you can't have them as lethal as they were in reality. Having them be metal was a strange touch, but acceptable, I suppose.

Luna is noticeably smaller than Celestia, can't remember about in the other episodes, but Nightmare Moon was the same size, I believe. Artistic license, I suppose.

There is some reason to believe that the 'next stage of training' mentioned by Luna/Celestia are about becoming an alicorn, (Discord was defeated, two alicorns, one more popped out from no-where, none of them were around when Discord was ruling nor before the events depicted in the Christmas special) but I remain wary about believing that. There are arguments both for and against Twilight becoming an alicorn (Cadence was alicorn of Crystal Empire, re-appeared because it was about to arrive VS she's not a true crystal pony) but those arguments are still debatable and relying on facts we don't have.

As for origin of ponies, I would hypothesise that there were four groups colonising Equestria. Earth Ponies, Unicorn Ponies, Pegasus Ponies, and the Crystal Ponies. We cannot accept them coming in with the Earth Ponies (else we would have to explain why there are no pegasus nor unicorn crystal ponies), but accepting them as a separate species/race/type of being altogether is difficult. We know that Celestia and Luna didn't know much about them, but that they had a powerful magic.

My hypothesis is that King Sombra wasn't a unicorn to begin with, but another unicorn pony. He was corrupted by the dark side of the Friendship, and betrayed and murdered Celestia and Luna's father something. If they wanted to do this, they could do a much darker serial even with this rather silly enemy, but that's not likely to happen. Now, with Sombra, it didn't feel like he was the threat. It felt like other ponies' weaknesses were his strength, and the threat he caused. Husband and wife team? Separate the team. Over-prepared application of theoretical knowledge? Dim that knowledge. Hell, they partly mentioned that he was still causing troubles even through Cadence's shield ("How could I have missed that?"). Willingness to use corrupt chi to defeat Sombra? It's a trap. Lack of awareness through tiredness from climbing to the Crystal Heart? Trap.

All that being said, he didn't feel like he was actually threatening. Which, I suppose, is good, considering what he was trying to do...but still...




My headcanon for his becoming evil: Generic Evil Being (GEB) corrupted door A. Sombra was trapped by the corrupted door. When rescued by a retainer, all he could think about was what he saw - the destruction of the Crystal ponies (possibly by the Alicorn Sisters). GEB whispered into his mind about the destruction, made him paranoid. Eventually offered him magic to stop the Alicorns from destroying the Crystal Empire...the horn.

Attached to him, it further corrupted him, turning him into the villain we all know and tolerate today. Going on to the 'darker serial' theory, the horn attempting to corrupt ponies (Pinkie Pie Clone, Babs Seed, Trixie, etc) and make them evil, all the while Twilight is trying to find it and stop it, possibly with it trying to corrupt her, too. It could work.




Metatheory about MLP now!

The show is a soft-translation of the memoirs of the protagonist, her name rendered in English as Twilight Sparkle. She is writing her tale from hindsight, which is why we have the names of each pony matching their cutie mark. That's why there are saddles and other things matching their appearance on Earth. The real things don't actually look like Earth stuff, nor are they called the same - they are merely translated as such for humanity, because of our terms for the things.
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Postby Mad hatters in jeans » Fri Nov 16, 2012 5:44 am

Soxastan wrote:
New Naephak wrote:Cheffy, I have something for you.

Analytical Proof of Applejack's Superiority.jpg

Image

Image


Khornate Worshippers wrote:Well, watched the premiere.

First half was barely watchable, but at least it showed some needless courage from Shining Armour, which is always good. Sombra was...I dunno, evil, I guess? What I'd have liked to have seen is the black crystals on his horn start to grow, like the other Sombra effected crystals, and start to infest him, maybe with him being Sombra's dragon.

Sombra's dragon? o.o
Khornate Worshippers wrote:Crystal ponies were all earth ponies, but there was at least one yeoman among them (see S2E1, statue garden)...though with one of the least military personalities I've seen on a pony. Lances as well, though of course you can't have them as lethal as they were in reality. Having them be metal was a strange touch, but acceptable, I suppose.

Honestly one of the only weakpoints i found was the lack of personality in the crystal ponies, but i suppose that's inevitible given all that was going on. imho This premiere really needed another 22 minutes.
Khornate Worshippers wrote:Luna is noticeably smaller than Celestia, can't remember about in the other episodes, but Nightmare Moon was the same size, I believe. Artistic license, I suppose.

After the elements vanquished nightmare moon, luna was reduced in size by quite a bit, then in luna eclipsed she is shown to have grown a little.
Khornate Worshippers wrote:There is some reason to believe that the 'next stage of training' mentioned by Luna/Celestia are about becoming an alicorn, (Discord was defeated, two alicorns, one more popped out from no-where, none of them were around when Discord was ruling nor before the events depicted in the Christmas special) but I remain wary about believing that. There are arguments both for and against Twilight becoming an alicorn (Cadence was alicorn of Crystal Empire, re-appeared because it was about to arrive VS she's not a true crystal pony) but those arguments are still debatable and relying on facts we don't have.

yah speculation mills are going at 100% on that
Khornate Worshippers wrote:As for origin of ponies, I would hypothesise that there were four groups colonising Equestria. Earth Ponies, Unicorn Ponies, Pegasus Ponies, and the Crystal Ponies. We cannot accept them coming in with the Earth Ponies (else we would have to explain why there are no pegasus nor unicorn crystal ponies), but accepting them as a separate species/race/type of being altogether is difficult. We know that Celestia and Luna didn't know much about them, but that they had a powerful magic.

Yah again lack of info on the crystal ponies and where they come on. left to speculation. Perhaps there are other kinds of mineral ponies?
Diamond ponies :D
Khornate Worshippers wrote:My hypothesis is that King Sombra wasn't a unicorn to begin with, but another unicorn pony. He was corrupted by the dark side of the Friendship, and betrayed and murdered Celestia and Luna's father something. If they wanted to do this, they could do a much darker serial even with this rather silly enemy, but that's not likely to happen. Now, with Sombra, it didn't feel like he was the threat. It felt like other ponies' weaknesses were his strength, and the threat he caused. Husband and wife team? Separate the team. Over-prepared application of theoretical knowledge? Dim that knowledge. Hell, they partly mentioned that he was still causing troubles even through Cadence's shield ("How could I have missed that?"). Willingness to use corrupt chi to defeat Sombra? It's a trap. Lack of awareness through tiredness from climbing to the Crystal Heart? Trap.

Sombra was a villain cut from a very different cloth to the usual villains in mlp fim.
My headcanon is that he is somehow related to or linked to windigoes (see hearths warming eve) and can summon the elements to torment ponies at will. Or he gained windigoes powers after being sealed under the ice in the Arctic
Khornate Worshippers wrote:All that being said, he didn't feel like he was actually threatening. Which, I suppose, is good, considering what he was trying to do...but still...

Well he was the only villain to force Twilight to swallow her own pride in order for her to work to defeat him, he left traps in his wake and his only encounter with another powerful unicorn effectively neutralized Shining armour.
His presence kept the mane six running scared
His presence kept an Alicorn weakened for days on end
His presence spread terror among the ponies he had enslaved
And yet we know nothing of his motivations as to why. But he managed all this just by making lots of smoke and naarghhh noises.
First viewing he does seem weak, but he's actually a very interesting villain to have.


Khornate Worshippers wrote:My headcanon for his becoming evil: Generic Evil Being (GEB) corrupted door A. Sombra was trapped by the corrupted door. When rescued by a retainer, all he could think about was what he saw - the destruction of the Crystal ponies (possibly by the Alicorn Sisters). GEB whispered into his mind about the destruction, made him paranoid. Eventually offered him magic to stop the Alicorns from destroying the Crystal Empire...the horn.

Ah his motivations for becoming evil?
Well i reckon since it's possible he was around during the time of Discord he kept Discord out with excessive Iron force over his subjects in the Crystal empire. To stop Discord walking into his turf perhaps?
Possible links to Luna turning into nightmare moon?
(one thing that's odd is he left a curse on the Crystal empire to become invisible, not sure how it was revealed).
Khornate Worshippers wrote:Attached to him, it further corrupted him, turning him into the villain we all know and tolerate today. Going on to the 'darker serial' theory, the horn attempting to corrupt ponies (Pinkie Pie Clone, Babs Seed, Trixie, etc) and make them evil, all the while Twilight is trying to find it and stop it, possibly with it trying to corrupt her, too. It could work.

That dreaded ability to reform from a tiny fragment of himself. interesting but unlikely to have affected the ponies in ponyville, although trixie...it's possible at a stretch


Khornate Worshippers wrote:Metatheory about MLP now!

The show is a soft-translation of the memoirs of the protagonist, her name rendered in English as Twilight Sparkle. She is writing her tale from hindsight, which is why we have the names of each pony matching their cutie mark. That's why there are saddles and other things matching their appearance on Earth. The real things don't actually look like Earth stuff, nor are they called the same - they are merely translated as such for humanity, because of our terms for the things.

It could work yah.

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Mad hatters in jeans wrote:
Khornate Worshippers wrote:Well, watched the premiere.

First half was barely watchable, but at least it showed some needless courage from Shining Armour, which is always good. Sombra was...I dunno, evil, I guess? What I'd have liked to have seen is the black crystals on his horn start to grow, like the other Sombra effected crystals, and start to infest him, maybe with him being Sombra's dragon.

Sombra's dragon? o.o


Sorry, it's a TVTropes turn of phrase. Dragon = second in command, typically physically threatening. Vader was the Emperor's Dragon, for example.
Mad hatters in jeans wrote:
Khornate Worshippers wrote:Crystal ponies were all earth ponies, but there was at least one yeoman among them (see S2E1, statue garden)...though with one of the least military personalities I've seen on a pony. Lances as well, though of course you can't have them as lethal as they were in reality. Having them be metal was a strange touch, but acceptable, I suppose.

Honestly one of the only weakpoints i found was the lack of personality in the crystal ponies, but i suppose that's inevitible given all that was going on. imho This premiere really needed another 22 minutes.

Crystal ponies were fairly weak, yes. ALSO, THEY STOLE MY OC THOSE BASTARDS AT HASBRO.

Mad hatters in jeans wrote:
Khornate Worshippers wrote:Luna is noticeably smaller than Celestia, can't remember about in the other episodes, but Nightmare Moon was the same size, I believe. Artistic license, I suppose.

After the elements vanquished nightmare moon, luna was reduced in size by quite a bit, then in luna eclipsed she is shown to have grown a little.

Yup, but at King Sombra's defeat, Luna is smaller than Celestia.
Mad hatters in jeans wrote:
Khornate Worshippers wrote:There is some reason to believe that the 'next stage of training' mentioned by Luna/Celestia are about becoming an alicorn, (Discord was defeated, two alicorns, one more popped out from no-where, none of them were around when Discord was ruling nor before the events depicted in the Christmas special) but I remain wary about believing that. There are arguments both for and against Twilight becoming an alicorn (Cadence was alicorn of Crystal Empire, re-appeared because it was about to arrive VS she's not a true crystal pony) but those arguments are still debatable and relying on facts we don't have.

yah speculation mills are going at 100% on that


You should see my board. One theory is that everypony's an alicorn except for Twilight Sparkle, they're just disguised to try and help her become an Alicorn by embracing her Earth Pony and Pegasus Pony parts. I dunno, it's crazy stuff.

Mad hatters in jeans wrote:
Khornate Worshippers wrote:As for origin of ponies, I would hypothesise that there were four groups colonising Equestria. Earth Ponies, Unicorn Ponies, Pegasus Ponies, and the Crystal Ponies. We cannot accept them coming in with the Earth Ponies (else we would have to explain why there are no pegasus nor unicorn crystal ponies), but accepting them as a separate species/race/type of being altogether is difficult. We know that Celestia and Luna didn't know much about them, but that they had a powerful magic.

Yah again lack of info on the crystal ponies and where they come on. left to speculation. Perhaps there are other kinds of mineral ponies?
Diamond ponies :D


Diamonds are a crystal, but I presume you know this and are making a joke about it.
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Khornate Worshippers wrote:My hypothesis is that King Sombra wasn't a unicorn to begin with, but another unicorn pony. He was corrupted by the dark side of the Friendship, and betrayed and murdered Celestia and Luna's father something. If they wanted to do this, they could do a much darker serial even with this rather silly enemy, but that's not likely to happen. Now, with Sombra, it didn't feel like he was the threat. It felt like other ponies' weaknesses were his strength, and the threat he caused. Husband and wife team? Separate the team. Over-prepared application of theoretical knowledge? Dim that knowledge. Hell, they partly mentioned that he was still causing troubles even through Cadence's shield ("How could I have missed that?"). Willingness to use corrupt chi to defeat Sombra? It's a trap. Lack of awareness through tiredness from climbing to the Crystal Heart? Trap.

Sombra was a villain cut from a very different cloth to the usual villains in mlp fim.
My headcanon is that he is somehow related to or linked to windigoes (see hearths warming eve) and can summon the elements to torment ponies at will. Or he gained windigoes powers after being sealed under the ice in the Arctic

Or the Crystal Empire is in the Arctic, and he doesn't need to do that.

Mad hatters in jeans wrote:
Khornate Worshippers wrote:All that being said, he didn't feel like he was actually threatening. Which, I suppose, is good, considering what he was trying to do...but still...

Well he was the only villain to force Twilight to swallow her own pride in order for her to work to defeat him, he left traps in his wake and his only encounter with another powerful unicorn effectively neutralized Shining armour.
His presence kept the mane six running scared
His presence kept an Alicorn weakened for days on end
His presence spread terror among the ponies he had enslaved
And yet we know nothing of his motivations as to why. But he managed all this just by making lots of smoke and naarghhh noises.
First viewing he does seem weak, but he's actually a very interesting villain to have.

First - Nightmare Moon/Discord do that, in their own way.
Second - Not running scared. That was much more just 'whoops, we got something wrong, keep calm'.
Third - Chrysalis.
Fourth - Nightmare Moon.
Fifth - That's my problem. He doesn't have any real motivation, so far as I've seen.


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Khornate Worshippers wrote:My headcanon for his becoming evil: Generic Evil Being (GEB) corrupted door A. Sombra was trapped by the corrupted door. When rescued by a retainer, all he could think about was what he saw - the destruction of the Crystal ponies (possibly by the Alicorn Sisters). GEB whispered into his mind about the destruction, made him paranoid. Eventually offered him magic to stop the Alicorns from destroying the Crystal Empire...the horn.

Ah his motivations for becoming evil?
Well i reckon since it's possible he was around during the time of Discord he kept Discord out with excessive Iron force over his subjects in the Crystal empire. To stop Discord walking into his turf perhaps?
Possible links to Luna turning into nightmare moon?
(one thing that's odd is he left a curse on the Crystal empire to become invisible, not sure how it was revealed).

It didn't become invisible. It was trapped in time. That's the possible argument for Cadence being the Crystal Alicorn.

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Khornate Worshippers wrote:Attached to him, it further corrupted him, turning him into the villain we all know and tolerate today. Going on to the 'darker serial' theory, the horn attempting to corrupt ponies (Pinkie Pie Clone, Babs Seed, Trixie, etc) and make them evil, all the while Twilight is trying to find it and stop it, possibly with it trying to corrupt her, too. It could work.

That dreaded ability to reform from a tiny fragment of himself. interesting but unlikely to have affected the ponies in ponyville, although trixie...it's possible at a stretch

Not reform himself. Corrupt a pony into being evil. Think of the horn as a daemon weapon from 40k.

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Khornate Worshippers wrote:Metatheory about MLP now!

The show is a soft-translation of the memoirs of the protagonist, her name rendered in English as Twilight Sparkle. She is writing her tale from hindsight, which is why we have the names of each pony matching their cutie mark. That's why there are saddles and other things matching their appearance on Earth. The real things don't actually look like Earth stuff, nor are they called the same - they are merely translated as such for humanity, because of our terms for the things.

It could work yah.

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Postby Immoren » Fri Nov 16, 2012 6:24 am

Khornate Worshippers wrote:The show is a soft-translation of the memoirs of the protagonist,

Like Lord of the Rings?
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Postby Khornate Worshippers » Fri Nov 16, 2012 6:28 am

Immoren wrote:
Khornate Worshippers wrote:The show is a soft-translation of the memoirs of the protagonist,

Like Lord of the Rings?


Sort of, yes. The best example I've found uses 40k as that basis.

Basically, the ponies don't speak English (naturally), the show simply translates it as English as a part of the translation of the piece. As well as that, they don't use saddles, merely them being translated (both in their appearance and their name).
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Postby Wilgrove » Fri Nov 16, 2012 7:13 am

Ameriganastan wrote:

The amount of brain burnage is astonishing. First off, the Fausticorn isn't her mother, she doesn't exist in canon, and Fluttershy didn't leave Cloudsdale until she was(What I assumed by how gangly she was) a teenager, so why would she be in that cottage as a baby? For God's sake...


It's a cute image....just relax and enjoy the cuteness. BTW, I kinda agree with Wis, your overreaction to this image is lulzy.

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Wisconsin9 wrote:*shrugs* I won't consciously try and cause it, but I will take pleasure in it when it happens.

Take pleasure in it? That's funny. Cause you're the most constant source of bitching about my attitude.


I find it amusing since you seem to take pleasure in other people's misfortune, and now people are taking pleasure in yours.

Irrroooonnnnyyyyyyyy.

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Why has that not happened in the show yet? Honestly....

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That's the last of these frigging things, right?


EENope!

Immoren wrote:Pretty


That is beautiful.

Immoren wrote:...


Not sure what tone to take that in.

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