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Postby Western cuba » Fri Aug 17, 2012 12:43 pm

Anyone else think that the deal for pre-ordering is rather limited?

I pre-ordered the game from Best-Buy. However when I think of it now, why the heck did I pay the five extra bucks for a poster, a piece of armor I'll probably rarely wear, and the safety of getting the game on time. Which I would probably be able to get the game without pre-ordering it on the day it comes out.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Fri Aug 17, 2012 12:46 pm

AETEN II wrote:
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It's not our fault that the rest of y'all don't spend hundreds of billions of dollars on your militaries.

Of course, we practically belong to China after all of our spending, but still...

:rofl:
China is actually our bitch. They only own 10% and we would destroy their economy if well pulled out all interests completely. China is effectively a house of cards that while does indeed look impressive, can easily be destroyed and will likely fall into chaos within the next hundred years, or even decades.
Besides, America could just nationalize Goldman Sachs to take over the majority of the world instantly.
But I'd rather that we just relinquish our grasp and simply fell back into the laid-back position of Britain. They help out, but they don't police the whole goddamn world.

And why kill people with napalm or missiles when you have railguns? Or chemical lasers? The military obviously does so for kicks.

They could cripple your economy and bankrupt all of the west if they did the same and stopped buying your debt, who else is strong enough economically to do so?, they have billions upon billions in reserve because they have made deals with some of the new up and coming economies such as Brazil and a few african countries, the west doesnt. Dont Underestimate China.
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Postby AETEN II » Fri Aug 17, 2012 3:32 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
AETEN II wrote: :rofl:
China is actually our bitch. They only own 10% and we would destroy their economy if well pulled out all interests completely. China is effectively a house of cards that while does indeed look impressive, can easily be destroyed and will likely fall into chaos within the next hundred years, or even decades.
Besides, America could just nationalize Goldman Sachs to take over the majority of the world instantly.
But I'd rather that we just relinquish our grasp and simply fell back into the laid-back position of Britain. They help out, but they don't police the whole goddamn world.

And why kill people with napalm or missiles when you have railguns? Or chemical lasers? The military obviously does so for kicks.

They could cripple your economy and bankrupt all of the west if they did the same and stopped buying your debt, who else is strong enough economically to do so?, they have billions upon billions in reserve because they have made deals with some of the new up and coming economies such as Brazil and a few african countries, the west doesnt. Dont Underestimate China.

They're a house of cards and revolution, peaceful or violent, is brewing. No communist nation has the ability to last for very long at all without collapsing, and the only reason that china has lasted as long as it has is because they're actually a capitalist dictatorship. With such a percentage of their population living in poverty, it certainly won't be long till there's a shakedown.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Fri Aug 17, 2012 3:35 pm

AETEN II wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:They could cripple your economy and bankrupt all of the west if they did the same and stopped buying your debt, who else is strong enough economically to do so?, they have billions upon billions in reserve because they have made deals with some of the new up and coming economies such as Brazil and a few african countries, the west doesnt. Dont Underestimate China.

They're a house of cards and revolution, peaceful or violent, is brewing. No communist nation has the ability to last for very long at all without collapsing, and the only reason that china has lasted as long as it has is because they're actually a capitalist dictatorship. With such a percentage of their population living in poverty, it certainly won't be long till there's a shakedown.

The only problem china has is how much they have devalued their currency, if they boosted it up abit millions of chinese would be able to move into those ghost cities as they are called, and china was never communist, its always been a state capitalist state since the war. And things are not that great for america either. But this isnt the thread for this discussion.
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Postby Creative Vikings » Fri Aug 17, 2012 5:16 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Creative Vikings wrote:Y'all know a MAC is a Relativistic Kill Vehicle?

Is it not just a railgun?

No, it's a RKV.
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Malshan wrote:
Star Wars plate armor does absolutely nothing for the people encased in them. This parody comes to mind.

Star Wars armor is the best armor. All you need to be is a scoundrel and you're invincible. Seriously. It's a goddamn trope in Star Wars. Every single game and movie that has had a scoundrel character, the char is completely invincible.
So be a scruffy looking nerf herder.


And bullshit. The MLG is a running joke and the halo fans they'll be 'testing' will likely be themselves.

And a Railgun is a realistic kill gun. The navy will be putting them on ships within several years as you don't need explosives. However, you can use explosive warheads if you really have to make sure they're dead.
But yeah, a ship that withstands a single shot from a railgun is extremely impressive. It's not surprise that the covie ships get blown to smithers' by em'. You ever seen the size of the barrels on those defense stations? Ouch.

Wrong RKV.
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Malshan wrote:
NO! A MAC (Magnetic Accelerator Cannon) is a coilgun. Same idea: the manipulation of magnetic fields. Different applications: a railgun as two 'rails' on which conflicting magnetic fields are pumped through. A coilgun as a number of magnetically charged coils which do the same thing.

Railguns are impractical: due to the constant friction and contact, the parts wear out quickly. But with a coilgun, there's no actual contact (not contact that lasts, anyhow) so the parts last longer.

It's a fairly simply concept, but one that requires a shitload of power to operate on any usable scale.

EDIT: Here's a link to the MAC page on the Halo wiki.

Also, the calculation on their page is wrong. The slugs travel at 120,000 kilometers per second (300,000 km/s (speed of light) x .4 (four tenths) = 120,000 km/s)
Ive read the halo wiki alot but i always thought a MAC gun was a railgun, apparently not. Although the railgun in H4 looks awesome. Good way the balanced it out, one shot then you are exposed till you reload again. I think a mult shot magazine would have made the weapon overpowered.

It reminds me of the Concussion Rifle from Republic Commando.
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Which was all explained in my post. The railguns, that is.

AND IT'S NOT A RAILGUN.

I can't wait till our navy gets railguns on our ship. It'll be fucking hilarious when we're shelling some piss poor backwater nation with space-age weaponry.

Our Navy?
AETEN II wrote:
Malshan wrote:
It's not our fault that the rest of y'all don't spend hundreds of billions of dollars on your militaries.

Of course, we practically belong to China after all of our spending, but still...

:rofl:
China is actually our bitch. They only own 10% and we would destroy their economy if well pulled out all interests completely. China is effectively a house of cards that while does indeed look impressive, can easily be destroyed and will likely fall into chaos within the next hundred years, or even decades.
Besides, America could just nationalize Goldman Sachs to take over the majority of the world instantly.
But I'd rather that we just relinquish our grasp and simply fell back into the laid-back position of Britain. They help out, but they don't police the whole goddamn world.

And why kill people with napalm or missiles when you have railguns? Or chemical lasers? The military obviously does so for kicks.

Wrong thread.

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Postby Malshan » Fri Aug 17, 2012 6:07 pm

Creative Vikings wrote:
AETEN II wrote:I can't wait till our navy gets railguns on our ship. It'll be fucking hilarious when we're shelling some piss poor backwater nation with space-age weaponry.

Our Navy?


He and I are American. That's what he was referring to.

Go Team USA?
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Postby AETEN II » Fri Aug 17, 2012 7:10 pm

Malshan wrote:
Creative Vikings wrote:Our Navy?


He and I are American. That's what he was referring to.

Go Team USA?

I still find it hilarious how freakin huge our navy is. Who the hell are we supposed to fight? Godzilla? Aliens? Daleks? The Covenant?
"Quod Vult, Valde Valt"

Excuse me, sir. Seeing as how the V.P. is such a V.I.P., shouldn't we keep the P.C. on the Q.T.? 'Cause if it leaks to the V.C. he could end up M.I.A., and then we'd all be put out in K.P.


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Postby Imperium Immortalis » Sat Aug 18, 2012 12:05 am

AETEN II wrote:
Malshan wrote:
He and I are American. That's what he was referring to.

Go Team USA?

I still find it hilarious how freakin huge our navy is. Who the hell are we supposed to fight? Godzilla? Aliens? Daleks? The Covenant?

Daleks mate, its all about fighting those godless British cyclops.
but jokes aside, our Air Force is where the real space age tech is. Literally, if you think we don't have plans for a chemical laser or a rail-gun sat, you are sadly mistaken. The navy might look like it can take down any coast in hours, and sure it could. But even our own navy would piss their pants and go crying home to mommy when the Air Force gets to shoot down hell itself from the heavens.

They make fun of the Air Force for having all the smart guys, only the nerds. But who is laughing when a 35 kilo tungsten rod is flying mach 20 towards your home city? So the navy might be getting the railguns soon but once the Air Force gets their sat-guns, that's when the real fun starts.
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Postby Creative Vikings » Sat Aug 18, 2012 1:31 am

AETEN II wrote:
Malshan wrote:
He and I are American. That's what he was referring to.

Go Team USA?

I still find it hilarious how freakin huge our navy is. Who the hell are we supposed to fight? Godzilla? Aliens? Daleks? The Covenant?

The US Navy was designed in the divine purpose to be always inferior to the British Navy, who always will be the best at Navy...ing.

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sat Aug 18, 2012 2:53 am

Creative Vikings wrote:
AETEN II wrote:I still find it hilarious how freakin huge our navy is. Who the hell are we supposed to fight? Godzilla? Aliens? Daleks? The Covenant?

The US Navy was designed in the divine purpose to be always inferior to the British Navy, who always will be the best at Navy...ing.

Indeed.

Anyway, what do you think of the new pistol they brought in for the UNSC? the explosive shot sidearm?
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Postby Kouralia » Sat Aug 18, 2012 3:22 am

Creative Vikings wrote:
AETEN II wrote:I still find it hilarious how freakin huge our navy is. Who the hell are we supposed to fight? Godzilla? Aliens? Daleks? The Covenant?

The US Navy was designed in the divine purpose to be always inferior to the British Navy, who always will be the best at Navy...ing.

Duh...

British Navy best at being in floaty-boats. British Army best at errehthing the Army should ever have to do (except PSOs in Northern Ireland). Royal Air Force best at flying low and finding quality hotels. CHMRM best Marine Corps ever. And, finally: Household Guards best Dress Uniform ever in the history of extremely uncomfortable and hot hats.
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Postby Creative Vikings » Sat Aug 18, 2012 4:42 am

I think 343 is going to bring back the GL and M7 at one stage...

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Postby Dimoniquid » Sat Aug 18, 2012 4:54 am

My only complaints on the game are the multiplayer leveling system. People who can afford to pay a $100 for the limited edition can get all of the classes - whereas people who just buy the regular game will only play with like, two of them. I was really looking forward to them keeping everyone on equal footing. I looked upon it here, and I have to agree with her.

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Postby Creative Vikings » Sat Aug 18, 2012 3:21 pm

Dimoniquid wrote:My only complaints on the game are the multiplayer leveling system. People who can afford to pay a $100 for the limited edition can get all of the classes - whereas people who just buy the regular game will only play with like, two of them. I was really looking forward to them keeping everyone on equal footing. I looked upon it here, and I have to agree with her.

You always agree with boobs.

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Postby Malshan » Sat Aug 18, 2012 3:36 pm

Dimoniquid wrote:My only complaints on the game are the multiplayer leveling system. People who can afford to pay a $100 for the limited edition can get all of the classes - whereas people who just buy the regular game will only play with like, two of them. I was really looking forward to them keeping everyone on equal footing. I looked upon it here, and I have to agree with her.


Eventually, all players will have access to the classes. True, there are only going to be two at first, but as players 'reach certain milestones', they will release more of the classes.

Give me a minute and I'll try and find the article.

Here it is.
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Postby Bajireyn » Wed Aug 22, 2012 4:32 pm

Creative Vikings wrote:I think 343 is going to bring back the GL and M7 at one stage...

Honestly I'd rather just have the Hornet from Halo 3 back.

The GL and SMG would be nice though.
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Postby Creative Vikings » Wed Aug 22, 2012 11:40 pm

Bajireyn wrote:
Creative Vikings wrote:I think 343 is going to bring back the GL and M7 at one stage...

Honestly I'd rather just have the Hornet from Halo 3 back.

The GL and SMG would be nice though.

Plasma Rifle also isn't in Halo 4.

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Thu Aug 23, 2012 12:55 am

Creative Vikings wrote:
Bajireyn wrote:Honestly I'd rather just have the Hornet from Halo 3 back.

The GL and SMG would be nice though.

Plasma Rifle also isn't in Halo 4.

What? its one of the best weapons...
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Postby Dimoniquid » Thu Aug 23, 2012 1:34 am

Creative Vikings wrote:
Dimoniquid wrote:My only complaints on the game are the multiplayer leveling system. People who can afford to pay a $100 for the limited edition can get all of the classes - whereas people who just buy the regular game will only play with like, two of them. I was really looking forward to them keeping everyone on equal footing. I looked upon it here, and I have to agree with her.

You always agree with boobs.

Especially cute, nerdy boobs.

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Postby Bajireyn » Thu Aug 23, 2012 8:49 am

Creative Vikings wrote:
Bajireyn wrote:Honestly I'd rather just have the Hornet from Halo 3 back.

The GL and SMG would be nice though.

Plasma Rifle also isn't in Halo 4.

Meh,I was never a fan of the plasma rifle...

I still want the Hornet back tho.
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Postby North Calaveras » Thu Aug 23, 2012 11:56 am

when can there be a multiplayer where you can play as a spartan, elite and flood combat form....
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Postby Kouralia » Thu Aug 23, 2012 3:20 pm

Play as a weak, unshielded enemy, capable of being fucked up by a single bullet finding it's mark, and likely suffering massive accuracy penalties for one-handing anything it uses.

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Postby AETEN II » Fri Aug 24, 2012 4:36 pm

Creative Vikings wrote:http://www.halo4news.net/2012/08/new-halo-4-helmets/

Awesome, scanner looks like a clone rangefinger for the ARCs in Phase II armor.

Strider just looks like a Pilot redux.
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Excuse me, sir. Seeing as how the V.P. is such a V.I.P., shouldn't we keep the P.C. on the Q.T.? 'Cause if it leaks to the V.C. he could end up M.I.A., and then we'd all be put out in K.P.


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Postby Creative Vikings » Fri Aug 24, 2012 4:42 pm

AETEN II wrote:
Creative Vikings wrote:http://www.halo4news.net/2012/08/new-halo-4-helmets/

Awesome, scanner looks like a clone rangefinger for the ARCs in Phase II armor.

Strider just looks like a Pilot redux.

Either way, there'll be some explanation for them, like why does the second one look like a discuss to the helmet and painted to blend in?

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