The Last Airbender/Legend of Korra Thread

[Jaslandia]

It's time for Season 4, Episode 6: Battle of Zaofu!

So, that scene where Kuvira steps aside and the camera switches scenes as the robots launch their attack toward the camera... it seems awfully familiar. I think there was a similar scene with Azula and her firebenders in A:TLA Season 2, Episode 1. The part where Zuko just found out Azula's taking him as prisoner, I think. I could be wrong, though.
The Airbenders have a non-aggression oath? What about the time in Episode 1 when Kai and Opal attacked the bandits in the village? That seemed like aggression to me. Then again, Jinora wasn't there at the time, so that may explain it.
Wait, so Korra, Jinora, and Opal are going to be Zaofu's representatives to Kuvira. Only one of them is actually a citizen of Zaofu (Opal), and she doesn't even live in Zaofu full time due to being an Air Nomad. Since Baatar Senior is Suyin's husbands, wouldn't he be the new leader of Zaofu, and thus the most logical choice for representative of Zaofu? On the other hand, since he's the de facto leader now, Baatar Senior can't afford to be captured if the meeting isn't what it seems. Plus, the writers probably think any scene with Baatar Senior would eventually get boring, since he's not a main character, nor is he a badass fighter.
Kuvira fighting Korra alone? I know Kuvira''s brave, and it could be good for propaganda if Kuvira wins, but it's otherwise risky, since Korra could actually KILL Kuvira, either by accident or on purpose.
Wow. Didn't know Varrick had a hint of eloquence in him.
She's not seriously gonna kill the main villain halfway through the season, is she? Is she? Yep, she didn't.
PTSD is what's wrong with her, Jinora. PTSD.
Wait, they survived that huge spirit energy explosion? Well, that's not TOO unrealistic. For one thing, they have some marks on them; for another, they were protected by rocks, and not a refrigerator. I'm looking at you, Indiana Jones!
I'm guessing the citizens of Zaofu didn't put up a fight? Well, that I can believe. The Metal Clan seems like very peaceful people, so I doubt they had many weapons. They probably had even less than usual since Kuvira took most of Zaofu's security force.
Crazy prediction: Zhu Li is a double agent. She's been waiting for an opportunity to sabotage Kuvira's plans this whole time. Called it.

Overall, a pretty good episode. I definitely liked it.

Right. So,

so did you ignore the "Bow before me" bit and order to destroy the domes on purpose? Or did you just not pay attention.

Well, bringing down the domes doesn't surprise me, really. Historically, conquering armies often destroyed city walls. The idea behind that is whoever captures the city next won't easily be able to defend it due to lack of walls and defensive structures, allowing the previous owner to easily retake the city. Bringing down the domes/walls doesn't mean the city will be destroyed.

[Ameriganastan]

PTSD is what's wrong with her, Jinora. PTSD.

There's the excuses...

[Rich and Corporations]

I think that Zhu Li is a

mindbender

[Marcurix]

PTSD is what's wrong with her, Jinora. PTSD.

There's the excuses...

Why, are you familiar with people who've suffered PTSD?

[Ameriganastan]

There's the excuses...

Why, are you familiar with people who've suffered PTSD?

This had nothing to do with her alleged PTSD. She just got her ass handed to her from the word go.

[Marcurix]

Why, are you familiar with people who've suffered PTSD?

This had nothing to do with her alleged PTSD. She just got her ass handed to her from the word go.

Look Ameriganastan stubborn as you are, you're not stupid. The imagery has been staring you in the face since the season began-they've gone over and over it. It appeared yet again when she was about to finish Kuvira off, its not alleged its right there. It's literally screaming at you at this point, so cut the crap.

Quiet clearly the emotional aspect is supposed to be the major theme of the season.

Not to mention that its the 5th episode of the season, did you really expect Korra to win?

[Ameriganastan]

This had nothing to do with her alleged PTSD. She just got her ass handed to her from the word go.

Look Ameriganastan stubborn as you are, you're not stupid. The imagery has been staring you in the face since the season began-they've gone over and over it. It appeared yet again when she was about to finish Kuvira off, its not alleged its right there. It's literally screaming at you at this point, so cut the crap.

Quiet clearly the emotional aspect is supposed to be the major theme of the season.

Not to mention that its the 5th episode of the season, did you really expect Korra to win?

She's a moron. That's all. She gets her ass whooped like a redheaded stepchild, and when she goes Avatar State to finish the job? She wusses out, loses and gives Zaofu over to Krazy Kuvira. You may cut Korra slack for her numerous screw ups, but I don't.

[Licana]

I'm pretty sure what he expected from Korra was competence, not victory.

Korra couldn't even land a hit on Kuvira until she engaged the Avatar State. Her fighting, even for someone under stress/trauma, was just awful. It's like she got locked into thinking this was some kind of pro-bending match and forgot she was allowed to do things other than throwing punch-based bending attacks at her opponent. I'm fairly sure she's demonstrated the ability to use omni-directional or otherwise large area-of-effect attacks before, so the fact that she didn't here, even if only to break Kuvira's stride and give herself an opening, is really kind of inexcusable.

[Ameriganastan]

I'm pretty sure what he expected from Korra was competence, not victory.

Korra couldn't even land a hit on Kuvira until she engaged the Avatar State. Her fighting, even for someone under stress/trauma, was just awful. It's like she got locked into thinking this was some kind of pro-bending match and forgot she was allowed to do things other than throwing punch-based bending attacks at her opponent. I'm fairly sure she's demonstrated the ability to use omni-directional or otherwise large area-of-effect attacks before, so the fact that she didn't here, even if only to break Kuvira's stride and give herself an opening, is really kind of inexcusable.

For the record, I never expect competence from Korra. I've learned better.

But yeah. It's like she just forgot how to fight. Which we know she hasn't, cause that's what she doing before she met Toph and during her little stay with Toph. I know Korra is an idiot, but she seemed to go Mega Idiot here.

[Mavorpen]

I want Aang back.

[Auzkhia]

So, any links?

[Mavorpen]

So, any links?

http://animehaven.org/western-cartoons/ ... -episode-6

[Auzkhia]

So, any links?

http://animehaven.org/western-cartoons/ ... -episode-6

Thank you.

[Rich and Corporations]

I'm pretty sure what he expected from Korra was competence, not victory.

Korra couldn't even land a hit on Kuvira until she engaged the Avatar State. Her fighting, even for someone under stress/trauma, was just awful. It's like she got locked into thinking this was some kind of pro-bending match and forgot she was allowed to do things other than throwing punch-based bending attacks at her opponent. I'm fairly sure she's demonstrated the ability to use omni-directional or otherwise large area-of-effect attacks before, so the fact that she didn't here, even if only to break Kuvira's stride and give herself an opening, is really kind of inexcusable.

What I miss is neutral Jing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eg6bJ4C-rtY <- bending attacks depend on punching

[Licana]

Didn't stop Zuko from putting up an omni-directional attack in his fight against Azula, nor did it stop Aang from doing large-area attacks on multiple occassions. Hell, that didn't even stop Azula from putting up what looked like a gigantic wall of fire to vaporize Aang and Katara's combined waterbending attack by the first minute of that video.

Hell, Zuko's fire-whips or concentrated blasts (like the one seen at about 1:25 in that video) would have been infinitely better than what Korra brought to the table on that fight. It's like she forgot she was allowed to use anything other than the bare-bones basics of each element's capabilities.

[Rich and Corporations]

The only issue I have is that Korra did not dodge at all. Besides that, it was fairly average bending.

[United States of Natan]

So I think we can all agree that Zhu Li will be a double agent or switch sides back to varrick's. So what do you all think about that scene where Kuvira was about to kill Korra? What if Jinora and Opal never interfered? This would mean Korra's death, and subsequent reincarnation. Into the Earth Empire. This would give Kuvira control of the Avatar. So if she had killed Korra, do you think she would have used this to her advantage by searching for her reincarnation, and taken the new Avatar from his/her family, and then raised him/her as an Earth Empire Super-soldier? I honestly would not put it past Kuvira to do this.

[Rich and Corporations]

I really think Zhu Li is a mindbender or something. Varrick never tells her the thing he wants, but she always manages to do it.

So I think we can all agree that Zhu Li will be a double agent or switch sides back to varrick's. So what do you all think about that scene where Kuvira was about to kill Korra? What if Jinora and Opal never interfered? This would mean Korra's death, and subsequent reincarnation. Into the Earth Empire. This would give Kuvira control of the Avatar. So if she had killed Korra, do you think she would have used this to her advantage by searching for her reincarnation, and taken the new Avatar from his/her family, and then raised him/her as an Earth Empire Super-soldier? I honestly would not put it past Kuvira to do this.

The avatar is inherently oriented towards balance. The next Avatar will probably take Kuvira down.

[Forsher]

Correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't one of the big advantages of the avatar state the knowledge/experience of the previous avatars...

You could tell Korra was going to lose from the moment that Kuvira said "You're not needed here" or whatever it was (assuming, of course, the fact this is episode six of approx. twelve isn't suggestive enough). I would suggest that this current book and its plots are another exploration of one of the key points, i.e. the avatar isn't required any more. Following that, I predict that Korra will regain her mojo after Kuvira's actions are made plain to her as being a combination of the standard Earth kingdom style dystopia with the Fire Nation style border expansion. Perhaps a more interesting ending, of course, would be that Korra never gets out of the funk and it's left to characters like Bolin to do deal with the problem more exclusively.

Speaking of Bolin we get to the more interesting plot. If I have one criticism though, it is Bolin. He seems to have become utterly comic relief/or at least more child-like than he's ever been with momentary hints of a survival instinct. Where Korra's been subjected to three books of "you're not needed" and was quite seriously beaten up at the end of the third, Bolin appears to have regressed. I wouldn't be surprised to see Varrrick and Bolin end up as a running subsidiary story that eventually links up with Korra and co.in time for resolution, or maybe they'll reunite next episode.

[United States of Natan]

I really think Zhu Li is a mindbender or something. Varrick never tells her the thing he wants, but she always manages to do it.

So I think we can all agree that Zhu Li will be a double agent or switch sides back to varrick's. So what do you all think about that scene where Kuvira was about to kill Korra? What if Jinora and Opal never interfered? This would mean Korra's death, and subsequent reincarnation. Into the Earth Empire. This would give Kuvira control of the Avatar. So if she had killed Korra, do you think she would have used this to her advantage by searching for her reincarnation, and taken the new Avatar from his/her family, and then raised him/her as an Earth Empire Super-soldier? I honestly would not put it past Kuvira to do this.

The avatar is inherently oriented towards balance. The next Avatar will probably take Kuvira down.

Even so, the next Avatar must hone their spiritual side to be able to communicate with their past lives and Raava, and without their spiritual side, Kuvira can easily control them without them ever knowing Kuvira killed their predecessor. And even if they do realize it at some point, Kuvira already have a few good uses out of him/her, and would have probably prepared in case the Avatar betrayed her.

[Rich and Corporations]

Even so, the next Avatar must hone their spiritual side to be able to communicate with their past lives and Raava, and without their spiritual side, Kuvira can easily control them without them ever knowing Kuvira killed their predecessor. And even if they do realize it at some point, Kuvira already have a few good uses out of him/her, and would have probably prepared in case the Avatar betrayed her.

Not quite. It takes years for the Avatar to master the four bending arts. Unless you're Aang or Korra. Although Korra hasn't quite mastered them per se. Furthermore Republic City is built on Earth Kingdom lands, thus it's entirely possible the next Avatar will reincarnate there.

[Forsher]

Even so, the next Avatar must hone their spiritual side to be able to communicate with their past lives and Raava, and without their spiritual side, Kuvira can easily control them without them ever knowing Kuvira killed their predecessor. And even if they do realize it at some point, Kuvira already have a few good uses out of him/her, and would have probably prepared in case the Avatar betrayed her.

Not quite. It takes years for the Avatar to master the four bending arts. Unless you're Aang or Korra. Although Korra hasn't quite mastered them per se. Furthermore Republic City is built on Earth Kingdom lands, thus it's entirely possible the next Avatar will reincarnate there.

I wonder if Kuvira will head for the likes of there or if her villainy will more established through how the Earth Empire functions. Spirit vine weapon obsession probably suggests a mixture of both.

[Celritannia]

I can't believe this is the last season of Legend of Korra and the end of Avatar as a whole :'(

[Ameriganastan]

They're running book 4 on TV on the 28th.

[Ameriganastan]

Outdated ideas.