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Postby New haven america » Mon Aug 01, 2016 4:58 pm

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Vulpix doesn't really look like a pokemon that needs a pre-evolution

So?
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Postby Mundeo » Mon Aug 01, 2016 5:23 pm

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Mundeo wrote:Vulpix doesn't really look like a pokemon that needs a pre-evolution

So?

You said that they should add a pre-evo to Vulpix that would then have a branched evolution. I just said that A pre-evolution doesn't seem like something that Vulpix needs.
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Postby Reploid Productions » Mon Aug 01, 2016 5:29 pm

I kinda like the notion of Pokemon from previous generations having regional variations, to be honest. When you think about it, IRL evolution works along those lines, with populations of the same species that are isolated in different conditions developing differently- why wouldn't Pokemon in drastically different/isolated regions have some unique adaptations as well? Granted, a complete type-flip like the Vulpix is... something of a stretch, but still seems like a neat idea. Probably opens up all sorts of neat possibilities for breeding and stuff.
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Postby Abserdia » Mon Aug 01, 2016 5:32 pm

Reploid Productions wrote:I kinda like the notion of Pokemon from previous generations having regional variations, to be honest. When you think about it, IRL evolution works along those lines, with populations of the same species that are isolated in different conditions developing differently- why wouldn't Pokemon in drastically different/isolated regions have some unique adaptations as well? Granted, a complete type-flip like the Vulpix is... something of a stretch, but still seems like a neat idea. Probably opens up all sorts of neat possibilities for breeding and stuff.

But Pokemon has never been exactly realistic in the way it portrays evolution.

It's still cool, though.
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Postby New haven america » Mon Aug 01, 2016 8:17 pm

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New haven america wrote:So?

You said that they should add a pre-evo to Vulpix that would then have a branched evolution. I just said that A pre-evolution doesn't seem like something that Vulpix needs.

It wouldn't be the first time a pre-evolution was given to a Pokemon that didn't need one.
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Postby Impaled Nazarene » Mon Aug 01, 2016 8:27 pm

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Mundeo wrote:You said that they should add a pre-evo to Vulpix that would then have a branched evolution. I just said that A pre-evolution doesn't seem like something that Vulpix needs.

It wouldn't be the first time a pre-evolution was given to a Pokemon that didn't need one.

Though several of them were for anime reasons
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Postby Reploid Productions » Mon Aug 01, 2016 9:07 pm

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New haven america wrote:It wouldn't be the first time a pre-evolution was given to a Pokemon that didn't need one.

Though several of them were for anime reasons

The Pokedex for Vulpix frequently states they only have one tail when very young- there's your Vulpix prevolution right there, the one-tailed baby. :P
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Postby Impaled Nazarene » Mon Aug 01, 2016 10:51 pm

Eclius wrote:OMG OMG, guys, somehow after the update, the Pokemon I'm getting went back to just Rattatas and Pidgeys :(

really? I caught a Pinsir in my house.
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Postby Veceria » Mon Aug 01, 2016 11:35 pm

Eclius wrote:OMG OMG, guys, somehow after the update, the Pokemon I'm getting went back to just Rattatas and Pidgeys :(

There are rumors that they put a pokemon-swap into the game to make scanners and stuff even less useful. That function randomly swaps pokemons you catch with other pokemons.
I have yet to confirm this.
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Postby United States of Natan » Tue Aug 02, 2016 12:37 am

Have you guys seen the new "Alolan Forms"? No doubt they're gonna anger gen. oners
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Postby United States of Natan » Tue Aug 02, 2016 12:39 am

Reploid Productions wrote:I kinda like the notion of Pokemon from previous generations having regional variations, to be honest. When you think about it, IRL evolution works along those lines, with populations of the same species that are isolated in different conditions developing differently- why wouldn't Pokemon in drastically different/isolated regions have some unique adaptations as well? Granted, a complete type-flip like the Vulpix is... something of a stretch, but still seems like a neat idea. Probably opens up all sorts of neat possibilities for breeding and stuff.

What I'm wondering is how vulpix will evolve now. Traditionally, it uses a fire stone to do so.
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Postby Reploid Productions » Tue Aug 02, 2016 1:14 am

Veceria wrote:
Eclius wrote:OMG OMG, guys, somehow after the update, the Pokemon I'm getting went back to just Rattatas and Pidgeys :(

There are rumors that they put a pokemon-swap into the game to make scanners and stuff even less useful. That function randomly swaps pokemons you catch with other pokemons.
I have yet to confirm this.

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Postby Veceria » Tue Aug 02, 2016 1:21 am

United States of Natan wrote:Have you guys seen the new "Alolan Forms"? No doubt they're gonna anger gen. oners

I actually always liked the new generations.
The only thing that always bothered me were mega-evolutions. Those are just silly and remind me of dragonball powercreep. Super-Saiyan-Pikachu when?
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Postby Alvecia » Tue Aug 02, 2016 1:32 am

United States of Natan wrote:
Reploid Productions wrote:I kinda like the notion of Pokemon from previous generations having regional variations, to be honest. When you think about it, IRL evolution works along those lines, with populations of the same species that are isolated in different conditions developing differently- why wouldn't Pokemon in drastically different/isolated regions have some unique adaptations as well? Granted, a complete type-flip like the Vulpix is... something of a stretch, but still seems like a neat idea. Probably opens up all sorts of neat possibilities for breeding and stuff.

What I'm wondering is how vulpix will evolve now. Traditionally, it uses a fire stone to do so.

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Postby Gallade » Tue Aug 02, 2016 6:05 am

United States of Natan wrote:
Reploid Productions wrote:I kinda like the notion of Pokemon from previous generations having regional variations, to be honest. When you think about it, IRL evolution works along those lines, with populations of the same species that are isolated in different conditions developing differently- why wouldn't Pokemon in drastically different/isolated regions have some unique adaptations as well? Granted, a complete type-flip like the Vulpix is... something of a stretch, but still seems like a neat idea. Probably opens up all sorts of neat possibilities for breeding and stuff.

What I'm wondering is how vulpix will evolve now. Traditionally, it uses a fire stone to do so.

Huh.

Ice rock à la Glaceon? Something similar to mega stones? Putting a fire stone in a freezer overnight?
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Postby Cadonica » Tue Aug 02, 2016 6:19 am

Impaled Nazarene wrote:
Eclius wrote:OMG OMG, guys, somehow after the update, the Pokemon I'm getting went back to just Rattatas and Pidgeys :(

really? I caught a Pinsir in my house.

And I caught Jynx just around mine.

United States of Natan wrote:Have you guys seen the new "Alolan Forms"? No doubt they're gonna anger gen. oners

At least this gen oner hasn't been angered yet by the five I've seen :p
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Postby Ifreann » Tue Aug 02, 2016 6:55 am

Gallade wrote:
United States of Natan wrote:What I'm wondering is how vulpix will evolve now. Traditionally, it uses a fire stone to do so.

Huh.

Ice rock à la Glaceon? Something similar to mega stones? Putting a fire stone in a freezer overnight?

Putting Vulpix in the freezer overnight?

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Postby Gallade » Tue Aug 02, 2016 6:59 am

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Gallade wrote:Huh.

Ice rock à la Glaceon? Something similar to mega stones? Putting a fire stone in a freezer overnight?

Putting Vulpix in the freezer overnight?

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Postby Collatis » Tue Aug 02, 2016 7:07 am

A lot of people have objected to the Alola forms, but, to be honest, I like the concept. Goes along with the actual theory of evolution very well. I'm not sure how I feel about Z-moves, however. The method for using them seems far too similar to Mega Evolutions.

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Postby Ifreann » Tue Aug 02, 2016 7:09 am

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Ifreann wrote:Putting Vulpix in the freezer overnight?

Iffy confirmed as Alola's main antagonist.

WHO TOL-I mean, don't be ridiculous.


You've no business in such a tropical region.

If the fire pokémon in this tropical region have turned to ice then logically if I go there I would turn African. Or I'd catch fire.

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Postby Parhe » Tue Aug 02, 2016 8:26 am

Veceria wrote:
United States of Natan wrote:Have you guys seen the new "Alolan Forms"? No doubt they're gonna anger gen. oners

I actually always liked the new generations.
The only thing that always bothered me were mega-evolutions. Those are just silly and remind me of dragonball powercreep. Super-Saiyan-Pikachu when?

I feel the same way. Though, I'm a gen twoer and gen sixer, if that makes sense.

It didn't help that only some Pokemon got mega evolutions, many of which did not need them and were just there for fanservice. I much preferred the second batch of megas, like Beedrill and Pidgeot, since those Pokemon actually needed some boost, but I still dislike the concept. The move thing is just stupid. Just expand the movepool.

As for Alolan forms, I would have much preferred new Pokemon even if they looked very similar to old Pokemon but with different types, stats, and moves. Now, if all Pokemon, or at least non-tropical non-Gen 7 Pokemon available to catch in the wild in the region, gets Alolan forms, I'll be all for it, as it's been something I wanted since the Orange Islands Arc, but that's unlikely, understandably so.

Also, just a note, smacking Ice type on a Pokemon does it no favors. At best, it adds one resistance and two weaknesses.
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Postby Mundeo » Tue Aug 02, 2016 8:29 am

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United States of Natan wrote:What I'm wondering is how vulpix will evolve now. Traditionally, it uses a fire stone to do so.

Huh.

Ice rock à la Glaceon? Something similar to mega stones? Putting a fire stone in a freezer overnight?

Maybe it'll be a water stone or dawn stone? Or they'll introduce an ice stone or a similar evolution item.
Collatis wrote:A lot of people have objected to the Alola forms, but, to be honest, I like the concept. Goes along with the actual theory of evolution very well. I'm not sure how I feel about Z-moves, however. The method for using them seems far too similar to Mega Evolutions.

At this point, it looks like Megas won't play much of a role in the main game, perhaps relegated to the post game or removed outright, most likely the former.
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Postby Eclius » Tue Aug 02, 2016 12:11 pm

Veceria wrote:
Eclius wrote:OMG OMG, guys, somehow after the update, the Pokemon I'm getting went back to just Rattatas and Pidgeys :(

There are rumors that they put a pokemon-swap into the game to make scanners and stuff even less useful. That function randomly swaps pokemons you catch with other pokemons.
I have yet to confirm this.

I have heard the same thing, could it be a glitch or something??
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Postby New haven america » Tue Aug 02, 2016 12:14 pm

Veceria wrote:
United States of Natan wrote:Have you guys seen the new "Alolan Forms"? No doubt they're gonna anger gen. oners

I actually always liked the new generations.
The only thing that always bothered me were mega-evolutions. Those are just silly and remind me of dragonball powercreep. Super-Saiyan-Pikachu when?

Never, Pikachu already has a normal evolution (Raichu).
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