Pokémon Discussion Thread

[Geilinor]

HeartGold doesn't have enough places to train before the Pokemon League, my Pokemon aren't strong enough to beat Lance.

Psh! I went in with a team between 39-42, and I beat his ass into the ground. Throw a couple Ice Beams around, and he's almost insultingly easy.

That's the level of my team, but I have three Pokemon weak to water type attacks.(I know, that's bad team planning, but the 2nd gen Pokemon don't appeal to me) Ho-oh, Typhlosion and Graveler.

[Chinese Regions]

Second gen is best gen.

I completely disagree. Fifth gen is best gen. Pokémon has only been getting better with each successive generation.

In terms of gameplay Fourth is actually better in my opinion. I haven't played Second but their remakes are my favourite games, tieing with Pokémon Emerald in my book.

[Olthar]

Psh! I went in with a team between 39-42, and I beat his ass into the ground. Throw a couple Ice Beams around, and he's almost insultingly easy.

That's the level of my team, but I have three Pokemon weak to water type attacks.(I know, that's bad team planning, but the 2nd gen Pokemon don't appeal to me) Ho-oh, Typhlosion and Graveler.

<insert haughty derision over using a Legendary here>

I completely disagree. Fifth gen is best gen. Pokémon has only been getting better with each successive generation.

In terms of gameplay Fourth is actually better in my opinion. I haven't played Second but their remakes are my favourite games, tieing with Pokémon Emerald in my book.

Gen V has Rotation Battles. Gen IV doesn't. Gen V wins.

Plus, Gen V has infinite use TMs, and that's objectively one of the best changes that has ever been made to the series.

[Buffett and Colbert]

Gen V has Rotation Battles. Gen IV doesn't. Gen V wins.

There are very few in-game and the very few that you can find suck.

Plus, Gen V has infinite use TMs, and that's objectively one of the best changes that has ever been made to the series.

I always feel slightly dirty after using a TM more than once.

[Buffett and Colbert]

the highest leveled pokemon I raised was a Porygon raised it to Level 67 on leafgreen and to Level 81 on Diamond...

I had an Alakazam at level 91.

[Geilinor]

the highest leveled pokemon I raised was a Porygon raised it to Level 67 on leafgreen and to Level 81 on Diamond...

I had an Alakazam at level 91.

I got a Blastoise to level 100 on LeafGreen.(I didn't cheat)

[SquareDisc City]

I must have had at least a dozen level 100s back in my Silver, including two Snorlaxes. That save was lost though.

More recently I'm not sure I've brought anything to level 100 naturally, since I discovered Emerald's item duplication glitch. My Haxorus in White is now at level 99 though.

[Olthar]

Gen V has Rotation Battles. Gen IV doesn't. Gen V wins.

There are very few in-game and the very few that you can find suck.

I know, but it's still an awesome battle style. I really hope B2&W2 have more of them.

Plus, Gen V has infinite use TMs, and that's objectively one of the best changes that has ever been made to the series.

I always feel slightly dirty after using a TM more than once.

So did I, at first, but I got over it.

the highest leveled pokemon I raised was a Porygon raised it to Level 67 on leafgreen and to Level 81 on Diamond...

I had an Alakazam at level 91.

Back when I was a kid and Gold was the only game I owned, I got my entire team up to level 100 by going back and forth between the Elite Four and Red several dozen times. As a result, I have perfectly memorized the interior of Mount Silver and can navigate it just fine without Flash. Hell, I could even draw up a map without a reference.

[Buffett and Colbert]

Back when I was a kid and Gold was the only game I owned, I got my entire team up to level 100 by going back and forth between the Elite Four and Red several dozen times. As a result, I have perfectly memorized the interior of Mount Silver and can navigate it just fine without Flash. Hell, I could even draw up a map without a reference.

Wow. I always make a point of not using maps or anything the first time I traverse a cave, but after that, I say screw it and use online maps.

[Olthar]

Back when I was a kid and Gold was the only game I owned, I got my entire team up to level 100 by going back and forth between the Elite Four and Red several dozen times. As a result, I have perfectly memorized the interior of Mount Silver and can navigate it just fine without Flash. Hell, I could even draw up a map without a reference.

Wow. I always make a point of not using maps or anything the first time I traverse a cave, but after that, I say screw it and use online maps.

Well, when it comes to video games, I have a remarkably precise memory. For instance, after playing through most games only once, I can usually remember the exact locations of every item and/or secret and the solutions to every puzzle.

And yet I have trouble remembering my own age. Funny that. :/

[Episarta]

I hated how the fossil pokemon in the fifth generation games were the same types as those in the first generation ones. I wish they had given each fossil pokemon its own type combination. Like one rock/flying, one rock/grass, one rock/steel, etc. The two rock/water ones from generation one can be sort of overlooked, I suppose.

But In every one since, they should have kept them as distinct. Like maybe an obvious rock/ground one, but also perhaps a rock/poison (like some ancient scorpion or something?) or maybe rock/ice, or hell I would eve take a rock/normal type.

But I did like Carracosta. I found him visually pleasing. And I wish the second generation games had their own fossils.

[Olthar]

I hated how the fossil pokemon in the fifth generation games were the same types as those in the first generation ones.

Honestly, I don't much care. Gen V already added far more unique type combinations than any other game, and I don't use fossil Pokémon, anyways. Once I used an Aerodactyl, but I haven't touched them since.

The two rock/water ones from generation one can be sort of overlooked, I suppose.

Why? Why does Gen I get a pass where the others don't?

And I wish the second generation games had their own fossils.

Yeah, I agree with you here. That would have been nice.

[Old Erisia]

As someone whose been playing since Blue, I agree with olthar about successive generations. I love mons from each one. Each game has it's own quirks and improvements. What Gen V lacked in original gameplay (although they at least tried with rotation battles), I think it made up for it with the introduction of competitive, interesting pokemon and an engaging, original story (kudos to Game Freak for laying just a sliver of doubt concerning the moral implications of pokemon battling in kids. Sure, it got white washed in the end, but how many kids do you think in the beginning had the sudden, inescapable thought that what they were doing amounted to forcing thinking, feeling slaves to hurt each other. That maybe THEY were the bad guys. What kid's game does that nowadays?) more reminiscent of Gen I. Although I originally did not like the "power creep" of later games, it has lead to the formation of tiered competitive battling, breathing new life into pokemon who had been long forgotten. I hope in the 6th gen (or BW2) they bring back things like the berry mechanics (or at least make more stuff available in the Dream World) or further flesh out the "adventure" mechanics (Abyssal Ruins). Also LET POKES FOLLOW YOU. That little cosmetic tweak still tickles me in naughty places.

And the fuck-ton of pokemon means that there will be some people forget. This gives people who make original teams a little boost to compensate for the rampant cheese. It makes my Mandibuzz a cold blooded killer. No one suspects Mandibuzz :3


Game Freak does need to cut it out with the legendaries though >_> Pretty soon there will be more legendaries than not in new releases.

[Astrolinium]

As someone whose been playing since Blue, I agree with olthar about successive generations. I love mons from each one. Each game has it's own quirks and improvements. What Gen V lacked in original gameplay (although they at least tried with rotation battles), I think it made up for it with the introduction of competitive, interesting pokemon and an engaging, original story (kudos to Game Freak for laying just a sliver of doubt concerning the moral implications of pokemon battling in kids. Sure, it got white washed in the end, but how many kids do you think in the beginning had the sudden, inescapable thought that what they were doing amounted to forcing thinking, feeling slaves to hurt each other. That maybe THEY were the bad guys. What kid's game does that nowadays?) more reminiscent of Gen I. Although I originally did not like the "power creep" of later games, it has lead to the formation of tiered competitive battling, breathing new life into pokemon who had been long forgotten. I hope in the 6th gen (or BW2) they bring back things like the berry mechanics (or at least make more stuff available in the Dream World) or further flesh out the "adventure" mechanics (Abyssal Ruins). Also LET POKES FOLLOW YOU. That little cosmetic tweak still tickles me in naughty places.

And the fuck-ton of pokemon means that there will be some people forget. This gives people who make original teams a little boost to compensate for the rampant cheese. It makes my Mandibuzz a cold blooded killer. No one suspects Mandibuzz :3


Game Freak does need to cut it out with the legendaries though >_> Pretty soon there will be more legendaries than not in new releases.

My biggest qualm is the names. They seem, for whatever reason, to largely have become somewhat uninspired.
Then again, I've never played Gen V, so names is about all I've been exposed to.

[North Wiedna]

I had an Alakazam at level 91.

I got a Blastoise to level 100 on LeafGreen.(I didn't cheat)

Hey, me too. That's the first I got up there, even before my first Pokemon, Torchic/Blaziken.

As someone whose been playing since Blue, I agree with olthar about successive generations. I love mons from each one. Each game has it's own quirks and improvements. What Gen V lacked in original gameplay (although they at least tried with rotation battles), I think it made up for it with the introduction of competitive, interesting pokemon and an engaging, original story (kudos to Game Freak for laying just a sliver of doubt concerning the moral implications of pokemon battling in kids. Sure, it got white washed in the end, but how many kids do you think in the beginning had the sudden, inescapable thought that what they were doing amounted to forcing thinking, feeling slaves to hurt each other. That maybe THEY were the bad guys. What kid's game does that nowadays?) more reminiscent of Gen I. Although I originally did not like the "power creep" of later games, it has lead to the formation of tiered competitive battling, breathing new life into pokemon who had been long forgotten. I hope in the 6th gen (or BW2) they bring back things like the berry mechanics (or at least make more stuff available in the Dream World) or further flesh out the "adventure" mechanics (Abyssal Ruins). Also LET POKES FOLLOW YOU. That little cosmetic tweak still tickles me in naughty places.

And the fuck-ton of pokemon means that there will be some people forget. This gives people who make original teams a little boost to compensate for the rampant cheese. It makes my Mandibuzz a cold blooded killer. No one suspects Mandibuzz :3


Game Freak does need to cut it out with the legendaries though >_> Pretty soon there will be more legendaries than not in new releases.

My biggest qualm is the names. They seem, for whatever reason, to largely have become somewhat uninspired.
Then again, I've never played Gen V, so names is about all I've been exposed to.

the names and overall design of pokemon seems to be dropping, there's some really nice ones like Yamask but some are just fucking rubbish.

[Astrolinium]

rubbish.

I think these designers have been hitting the shroomish.

[North Wiedna]

rubbish.

:shock:
I think these designers have been hitting the shroomish.

Someone needs to Throh that thing out, possibly Sawk the designer in the gut.

[Episarta]

I hated how the fossil pokemon in the fifth generation games were the same types as those in the first generation ones.

Honestly, I don't much care. Gen V already added far more unique type combinations than any other game, and I don't use fossil Pokémon, anyways. Once I used an Aerodactyl, but I haven't touched them since.

The two rock/water ones from generation one can be sort of overlooked, I suppose.

Why? Why does Gen I get a pass where the others don't?

And I wish the second generation games had their own fossils.

Yeah, I agree with you here. That would have been nice.

The type combinations wouldn't have to be unique amongst all pokemon, just among fossil pokemon. And I don't use them that much either, I just like it for the variation. And I, being a who loves collecting and order, dislike "duplicates". I just considered them to be copies of the generation one fossil pokemon I guess. Although, a lot of generation five pokemon are similar in that way. I just target the fossils specifically.

And I overlook generation one because that's when things were just getting started. It seemed like in generations three and four they somewhat established a pattern of the fossils being different types from all the ones before.

But I guess it's just me being picky

[North Wiedna]

Honestly, I don't much care. Gen V already added far more unique type combinations than any other game, and I don't use fossil Pokémon, anyways. Once I used an Aerodactyl, but I haven't touched them since.


Why? Why does Gen I get a pass where the others don't?


Yeah, I agree with you here. That would have been nice.

The type combinations wouldn't have to be unique amongst all pokemon, just among fossil pokemon. And I don't use them that much either, I just like it for the variation. And I, being a who loves collecting and order, dislike "duplicates". I just considered them to be copies of the generation one fossil pokemon I guess. Although, a lot of generation five pokemon are similar in that way. I just target the fossils specifically.

And I overlook generation one because that's when things were just getting started. It seemed like in generations three and four they somewhat established a pattern of the fossils being different types from all the ones before.

But I guess it's just me being picky :p

What they need to completely stop making is Grass/Poison types.

At least for one gen.

[Episarta]

The type combinations wouldn't have to be unique amongst all pokemon, just among fossil pokemon. And I don't use them that much either, I just like it for the variation. And I, being a who loves collecting and order, dislike "duplicates". I just considered them to be copies of the generation one fossil pokemon I guess. Although, a lot of generation five pokemon are similar in that way. I just target the fossils specifically.

And I overlook generation one because that's when things were just getting started. It seemed like in generations three and four they somewhat established a pattern of the fossils being different types from all the ones before.

But I guess it's just me being picky

What they need to completely stop making is Grass/Poison types.

At least for one gen.

The second generation didn't introduce any Grass/Poison types.

[Old Erisia]

Especially since it was perfected in Venosaur

I want a Water/Bug and Ghost/Grass.

And i don't get why you hate Cofagrigus. Sure, an evo of Yamask that was more Yamask-y would have been awesome, but I still love both designs. All of the Gen V ghosts (bar mustached jellyfish >_>) were amazing imo. Also add in things like Stoutland and the uniqueness of Reuniclus. Of course I guess that's balanced out by the fighting types, ice cream, trash, gears, and lolwat legendaries.

[Olthar]

As someone whose been playing since Blue, I agree with olthar about successive generations. I love mons from each one. Each game has it's own quirks and improvements. What Gen V lacked in original gameplay (although they at least tried with rotation battles), I think it made up for it with the introduction of competitive, interesting pokemon and an engaging, original story (kudos to Game Freak for laying just a sliver of doubt concerning the moral implications of pokemon battling in kids. Sure, it got white washed in the end, but how many kids do you think in the beginning had the sudden, inescapable thought that what they were doing amounted to forcing thinking, feeling slaves to hurt each other. That maybe THEY were the bad guys. What kid's game does that nowadays?) more reminiscent of Gen I. Although I originally did not like the "power creep" of later games, it has lead to the formation of tiered competitive battling, breathing new life into pokemon who had been long forgotten. I hope in the 6th gen (or BW2) they bring back things like the berry mechanics (or at least make more stuff available in the Dream World) or further flesh out the "adventure" mechanics (Abyssal Ruins). Also LET POKES FOLLOW YOU. That little cosmetic tweak still tickles me in naughty places.

And the fuck-ton of pokemon means that there will be some people forget. This gives people who make original teams a little boost to compensate for the rampant cheese. It makes my Mandibuzz a cold blooded killer. No one suspects Mandibuzz :3


Game Freak does need to cut it out with the legendaries though >_> Pretty soon there will be more legendaries than not in new releases.

My biggest qualm is the names. They seem, for whatever reason, to largely have become somewhat uninspired.
Then again, I've never played Gen V, so names is about all I've been exposed to.

And I'm sure Gen I had the best names, eh? I mean, with such gems as Seel, Grimer, Ghastly, Butterfree, Graveler, and so many others, it must have. I can really see why the Gen I names are so special.

[North Wiedna]

My biggest qualm is the names. They seem, for whatever reason, to largely have become somewhat uninspired.
Then again, I've never played Gen V, so names is about all I've been exposed to.

And I'm sure Gen I had the best names, eh? I mean, with such gems as Seel, Grimer, Ghastly, Butterfree, Graveler, and so many others, it must have. I can really see why the Gen I names are so special.

[TaQud]

And I'm sure Gen I had the best names, eh? I mean, with such gems as Seel, Grimer, Ghastly, Butterfree, Graveler, and so many others, it must have. I can really see why the Gen I names are so special.

Pikachu, Zubat, the 3 legendary Birds, porygon, gyardos, arcanine

[Buffett and Colbert]

I want a Water/Bug

Isn't that covered by Surskit and Masquerain?