Hunger Games Vs Twilight

[Jolleus]

I've never read Twilight. But judging by all of these "never read HG but I still think it sucks" people, maybe I should give Twilight a try. "Never read it but think it sucks" just might be the true connection between the two series'. And that's not acceptable.

[Cantis Island]

Here's the difference between the two:

Hunger Games Secretly a detailed guide on how to break a young girl's mind. Also, a more family-friendly version of Battle Royale

Twilight The importance in having a boyfriend and why should try necrophilia.

[Nationstatelandsville]

So, instead of a whiny girl we get a boring girl? Instead of vampires and werewolves we get a dystopia? Instead of a werewolf with a shirt phobia we get an annoying asshole? Instead of a brooding stalker we get... a brooding stalker?

You're totally right. They are nothing alike. Hunger Games sucked in it's own unique way.



Wow. Just wow.

Can you tell me how the Hunger Games sucked? I just want to hear why you think it's a poor series.

I really think that Collins is a pretty good author. I read her Underland series back in elementary school and enjoyed it immensely.

The only semblance of a personality that Katniss had was brooding, both love interests were flat characters, the whole "America breaks apart" storyline is way overdone, and Panem was trying so hard to be Oceania without actually being Oceania. None of the characters clicked, none of the situations were at all that exciting, and the rebellion was completely shoehorned in.

[AETEN II]

Fuck it, I'll take Battlefield: Earth over both movies.

Hunger Games is just sad, sad proof at the way our cinema is dying. Damn action movies. I love Star Wars and LOTR, but dammit, I wish movies where still things that required you to think or had complex plots, like the Godfather and Memento. WHY CINEMA, WHY MUST YOU DIE SUCH A DEATH? AT LEAST GIVE ME A TRUE SCIENCE FICTION EPIC BEFORE YOU BREATHE YOUR LAST!

[Vitius]

Can you tell me how the Hunger Games sucked? I just want to hear why you think it's a poor series.

I really think that Collins is a pretty good author. I read her Underland series back in elementary school and enjoyed it immensely.

The only semblance of a personality that Katniss had was brooding, both love interests were flat characters, the whole "America breaks apart" storyline is way overdone, and Panem was trying so hard to be Oceania without actually being Oceania. None of the characters clicked, none of the situations were at all that exciting, and the rebellion was completely shoehorned in.

Sorry if it seems like in my argument I'm going to refer to the characters being real. I don't mean to:

1.) She (the character) was trained to kill. She dealt with traumatic experiences. Her dad's dead. I would expect some sort of brooding.
2.) It's overdone? I've never read another split-apart America story :/ But if it's not broken, why fix it? I think pie is a little over done, but hey, don't get rid of it. I love pie. And it really just gets ideas from America geographically. It'd be different if Collins wrote a whole timeline on how America fell apart and what-not, but she didn't.
3.) So every dystopia is just a version of those seen in 1984?
4.) How was the rebellion shoed in? The ending of the Games in the first book was a huge symbol of rebellion in that it showed they could defy the Capitol despite beliefs otherwise. You think the whole background with the Mockingjay in the first book and how it only worked against the Capitol in the big war was just random? Or what Katniss did with Rue? No, the whole series was meant to be about rebellion.

[Astrolinium]

Fuck it, I'll take Battlefield: Earth over both movies.

Hunger Games is just sad, sad proof at the way our cinema is dying. Damn action movies. I love Star Wars and LOTR, but dammit, I wish movies where still things that required you to think or had complex plots, like the Godfather and Memento. WHY CINEMA, WHY MUST YOU DIE SUCH A DEATH? AT LEAST GIVE ME A TRUE SCIENCE FICTION EPIC BEFORE YOU BREATHE YOUR LAST!

I think the saddest part is that you are only treating both of these as motion pictures and not works of literature.

[Nationstatelandsville]

The only semblance of a personality that Katniss had was brooding, both love interests were flat characters, the whole "America breaks apart" storyline is way overdone, and Panem was trying so hard to be Oceania without actually being Oceania. None of the characters clicked, none of the situations were at all that exciting, and the rebellion was completely shoehorned in.

Sorry if it seems like in my argument I'm going to refer to the characters being real. I don't mean to:

1.) She (the character) was trained to kill. She dealt with traumatic experiences. Her dad's dead. I would expect some sort of brooding.

I don't read fiction to listen to some annoying girl contemplate how bad her life sucks. Realism should never get in the way of a good story.

2.) It's overdone? I've never read another split-apart America story :/ But if it's not broken, why fix it? I think pie is a little over done, but hey, don't get rid of it. I love pie. And it really just gets ideas from America geographically. It'd be different if Collins wrote a whole timeline on how America fell apart and what-not, but she didn't.

I like pie, too. But is this about pie? No, it's about literature. Literature bakes faster than pie.

3.) So every dystopia is just a version of those seen in 1984?

No, but this was. Mysterious leader? Check. Odd ways to keep the people in line? Check. A class of citizens allotted freedom to shut them up? Check.

4.) How was the rebellion shoed in? The ending of the Games in the first book was a huge symbol of rebellion in that it showed they could defy the Capitol despite beliefs otherwise. You think the whole background with the Mockingjay in the first book and how it only worked against the Capitol in the big war was just random? Or what Katniss did with Rue? No, the whole series was meant to be about rebellion.

The two plots didn't mesh well. At all.

[Astrolinium]

3.) So every dystopia is just a version of those seen in 1984?

No, but this was. Mysterious leader? Check. Odd ways to keep the people in line? Check. A class of citizens allotted freedom to shut them up? Check.

I don't think 1984 had quite as bad a case of "My Parents Went to Ancient Rome And All I Got Was This Stupid T-Shirt".

[Nationstatelandsville]

No, but this was. Mysterious leader? Check. Odd ways to keep the people in line? Check. A class of citizens allotted freedom to shut them up? Check.

I don't think 1984 had quite as bad a case of "My Parents Went to Ancient Rome And All I Got Was This Stupid T-Shirt".

No, but that's beside the point.

[Libete]

I never understood the whole "Team Edward" and "Team Jacob" thing. THEY'RE NOT REAL. Besides, we all know who she's gonna end up with so.... pointless. Whereas, with the Hunger Games (can't wait for the movie to come out btw) Katniss does what she wants and doesn't need either of the guys. She just chooses to be with one of them. There's no similarity. One is a sorry piece of literature while the other is a futuristic fantasy bundle of absolute joy. Even if you don't like the Hunger Games, you must admit: STILL not as gay as Twilight. At least there's a plot and unique characters.

Exactly.
Love Triangle =/= OMG! Just like Twilight, right??!?!?!

No. The Hunger Games aren't like Twilight, if that's what you're asking.
OR.... I agree love triangle doesn't equal same plot as Twilight.

[Hassett]

Can't say, I've never read either but their reader demographics are similar.

[Takaram]

As a piece of literature, I'd say Hunger Games is the better series. The fandom is the same, however, and they're still as bad as ever.

[Astrolinium]

As a piece of literature, I'd say Hunger Games is the better series. The fandom is the same, however, and they're still as bad as ever.

I swear, I am going to burn all puns involving bread forever.

[Giovenith]

Exactly.
Love Triangle =/= OMG! Just like Twilight, right??!?!?!

No. The Hunger Games aren't like Twilight, if that's what you're asking.
OR.... I agree love triangle doesn't equal same plot as Twilight.

Second one.

[Nationstatelandsville]

As a piece of literature, I'd say Hunger Games is the better series. The fandom is the same, however, and they're still as bad as ever.

I swear, I am going to burn all puns involving bread forever.

There were bread puns?

I don't enough Latin to find them, clearly.

[Astrolinium]

I swear, I am going to burn all puns involving bread forever.

There were bread puns?

I don't enough Latin to find them, clearly.

No, the ones the fandom makes. Jesus Christ, they're so bad they make an atheist Jew feel the need to say "Jesus Christ".

[Nationstatelandsville]

There were bread puns?

I don't enough Latin to find them, clearly.

No, the ones the fandom makes. Jesus Christ, they're so bad they make an atheist Jew feel the need to say "Jesus Christ".

Oh... well, there is one. Peta.

I'm going to vomit.

[Oterro]

Whats with all the hate for the Hunger Games?

What's with all the love? It's just a bland uninteresting book the internet has a gigantic boner for.

[Giovenith]

There were bread puns?

I don't enough Latin to find them, clearly.

No, the ones the fandom makes. Jesus Christ, they're so bad they make an atheist Jew feel the need to say "Jesus Christ".

An atheist... who is also a Jew...?
I may just be stupid, but I'm not really sure I get what you just said.

[Oterro]

An atheist... who is also a Jew...?
I may just be stupid, but I'm not really sure I get what you just said.

It's an ethnoreligious group.

[Astrolinium]

No, the ones the fandom makes. Jesus Christ, they're so bad they make an atheist Jew feel the need to say "Jesus Christ".

An atheist... who is also a Jew...?
I may just be stupid, but I'm not really sure I get what you just said.

An atheist... who is also a Jew...?
I may just be stupid, but I'm not really sure I get what you just said.

It's an ethnoreligious group.

This.

[Lyoneau]

The allegations of her stealing the idea of battle royale are completely false. Look up where she got the inspiration for it.

No, you provide a source that it's a unique and wholly original idea.

One that isn't the author saying 'guys, guys, i totally made it up myself'.

First of all, almost no work is completely original. Many stories are really just based off of older stories/legends. These newer stories are basically the same, only they are told in a different way. But usually, the main theme and message of the story, as well as some major events, remain the same. The Hunger Games is based of the story of Theseus, from Greek mythology. Like Theseus, Katniss must fight an oppressive antagonist who forces a sacrifice to be made to them. The Hunger Games is also similar to Battle Royale in the sense that it's children/young adults fighting each other to the death.

Nothing is really a completely original idea. Shakespeare, one of the most well-respected and famous writers, wrote about stories from ancient times as well. Romeo and Juliet is really the story of Pyramus and Thisbe.

Second, I love the Hunger Games, and I hate Twilight

[Giovenith]

No, you provide a source that it's a unique and wholly original idea.

One that isn't the author saying 'guys, guys, i totally made it up myself'.

First of all, almost no work is completely original. Many stories are really just based off of older stories/legends. These newer stories are basically the same, only they are told in a different way. But usually, the main theme and message of the story, as well as some major events, remain the same. The Hunger Games is based of the story of Theseus, from Greek mythology. Like Theseus, Katniss must fight an oppressive antagonist who forces a sacrifice to be made to them. The Hunger Games is also similar to Battle Royale in the sense that it's children/young adults fighting each other to the death.

Nothing is really a completely original idea. Shakespeare, one of the most well-respected and famous writers, wrote about stories from ancient times as well. Romeo and Juliet is really the story of Pyramus and Thisbe.

Second, I love the Hunger Games, and I hate Twilight

This.

[Takaram]

Honestly, what pisses me off is how people react towards the Hunger Games. When I read them, I found them to be enjoyable pieces of fluff reading. Sure, the characters were a bit flat and the story was derived from plenty of other works, but they were still told in a manner that was pleasant enough to read. Now that I'm actually listening to people talk about them, though, I've kind of started to hate them for what they've spawned. I mean, you'd think that the books had been taken directly out of a chest in Shakespeare's attic the way people talk about them.

[Oterro]

First of all, almost no work is completely original.

Yet most works strive to maintain a sense of originality.

Many stories are really just based off of older stories/legends. These newer stories are basically the same, only they are told in a different way.

Which renders them redundant when they're being told in a worse manner, hm?

Nothing is really a completely original idea. Shakespeare, one of the most well-respected and famous writers, wrote about stories from ancient times as well. Romeo and Juliet is really the story of Pyramus and Thisbe.

But Shakespeare is not praised for his plots, which are very typical and more than once were completely stolen, iirc, he's praised for his prose and exploration of themes.

I don't see anything redeeming as that in The Hunger Games.