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Favorite Thrones of Britannia Faction?

The Anglo-Saxons
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37%
The Welsh Kingdoms
16
21%
The Gaels
12
16%
The Great Viking Army
11
15%
The Viking Sea Kings
8
11%
 
Total votes : 75

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Postby Lenehen » Thu Jul 05, 2012 11:12 am

Oterro wrote:
Lenehen wrote:How'd you play as poland? I never have enough money to defend my lands from Prussia, Austria and Sweden as well as building up my infrastructure -_-

Who needs money when you have unyielding Polish spirit.


Unyielding spirit is all very well and good, but when a Prussian full-stack comes knocking on Warsaw's door I think I'd rather have some money to buy troops -_-
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Postby Oterro » Thu Jul 05, 2012 11:32 am

Lenehen wrote:Unyielding spirit is all very well and good, but when a Prussian full-stack comes knocking on Warsaw's door I think I'd rather have some money to buy troops -_-

Maybe you're not the right cut of cloth to lead Poland then...
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Thu Jul 05, 2012 1:24 pm

Oterro wrote:
Lenehen wrote:Unyielding spirit is all very well and good, but when a Prussian full-stack comes knocking on Warsaw's door I think I'd rather have some money to buy troops -_-

Maybe you're not the right cut of cloth to lead Poland then...


He should pick Sweden or something, they kick ass. I will never forget marching on Berlin and Moscow as Sweden.
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Postby Genivaria » Thu Jul 05, 2012 1:59 pm

Lenehen wrote:
Oterro wrote:Who needs money when you have unyielding Polish spirit.


Unyielding spirit is all very well and good, but when a Prussian full-stack comes knocking on Warsaw's door I think I'd rather have some money to buy troops -_-

Money? Try Artillery. Grapeshot motherfuckers!
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Postby Oterro » Thu Jul 05, 2012 2:06 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:He should pick Sweden or something, they kick ass. I will never forget marching on Berlin and Moscow as Sweden.

Sweden is the most plebeian nation.

Mother Russia or bust.
Genivaria wrote:
Lenehen wrote:
Unyielding spirit is all very well and good, but when a Prussian full-stack comes knocking on Warsaw's door I think I'd rather have some money to buy troops -_-

Money? Try Artillery. Grapeshot motherfuckers!

Artillery is pathetic in Empire.
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Postby Genivaria » Thu Jul 05, 2012 2:07 pm

Oterro wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:He should pick Sweden or something, they kick ass. I will never forget marching on Berlin and Moscow as Sweden.

Sweden is the most plebeian nation.

Mother Russia or bust.
Genivaria wrote:Money? Try Artillery. Grapeshot motherfuckers!

Artillery is pathetic in Empire.

Awww, but I want to blow shit up.
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Postby Oterro » Thu Jul 05, 2012 2:12 pm

Genivaria wrote:Awww, but I want to blow shit up.

Go play call of duty then.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Thu Jul 05, 2012 2:15 pm

Russia is good in Empire but the colour scheme is an eyesore and i nearly get bankrupted fighting the Ottomans and Swedes early on. The only time i did good as them i took over scandinavia and south east europe but then the Prussians mauled me for a while then my save died.
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Postby New Babylonia » Thu Jul 05, 2012 2:27 pm

I got this one game as austria on Empire (as its the one we're talking about) I have taken over everything east of me and north of the ottoman Empire (Still conquering them) I've also conquered westphalia, italy, france, sweden, saxony, and got the new Rome achievement :lol:

So much fun.....making 34k a turn.
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Postby New Sapienta » Thu Jul 05, 2012 2:30 pm

I don't play Empire that much.

But when I do I play as Russia or France.

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Postby OMGeverynameistaken » Thu Jul 05, 2012 2:57 pm

For those who play Empire, I suggest getting Imperial Splendour:
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=1138

Makes a meh game awesome. It also kicks artillery up a notch and makes it actually useful.

Grapeshot at close range WILL knock down half of a unit.
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Postby Oterro » Thu Jul 05, 2012 3:36 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:Russia is good in Empire but the colour scheme is an eyesore and i nearly get bankrupted fighting the Ottomans and Swedes early on. The only time i did good as them i took over scandinavia and south east europe but then the Prussians mauled me for a while then my save died.

But

Glorious Russian green.

I had a really really good save as Russia that just crashed every time I ended the turn I was on unfortunately - I got ports and was trading with a bunch of people, and i rushed Scandinavia. Poland/Austria went to war with Prussia and Sweden sent an army into Brandenburg just before mine arrived in Stockholm. I besieged the city but Sweden captured Berlin the turn before I took Stockholm, eliminating Prussia from the game.

I captured Stockholm, quickly grabbed Denmark then sued for peace, figuring they were far enough away from me to not make a difference. 30 or 40 turns away later and they had basically hacked out Germany.

''I was surrounded by wolves and the only escape was to slash my way out!'' or something.
OMGeverynameistaken wrote:For those who play Empire, I suggest getting Imperial Splendour:
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=1138

Makes a meh game awesome. It also kicks artillery up a notch and makes it actually useful.

Grapeshot at close range WILL knock down half of a unit.

Did the Spanish not route an entire regiment of their own soldiers by firing a volley once.

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Postby OMGeverynameistaken » Thu Jul 05, 2012 3:43 pm

Also, people hatin' on Russia's uniforms:
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ETW's vanilla uniforms are terrible anyway. CA's idea of 'historical accuracy' is to give everybody a British uniform, derp.
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Postby Forsher » Thu Jul 05, 2012 5:41 pm

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I loved Rome: Total War. The only civilization I could never conquer was the Armenians.


I was, quite frankly, rubbish at RTW. It is a very different game to MTW and as I have a choice between playing RTW or AOEIII I stuck with MTW and so didn't bother trying to get better.

As you may have noticed that is really the limit of my capabilities to play Total War. But, hey, I'm really quite good at MTW... civil war? ten enemies, no allies? excommunicated? Not a problem. I still get 60% and keep on going.
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Postby Zeyad » Thu Jul 05, 2012 10:29 pm

Fellow Total War enthusiasts, I have a question. I've recently become enamored with musket and line era warfare, and I'd like to play to that setting. The only problem is I remember Empire being...Bad, in the demo. Did it ever get better, or should I just spring for Napoleon? Or do I need both for the full experience?
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Postby Genivaria » Thu Jul 05, 2012 10:30 pm

Zeyad wrote:Fellow Total War enthusiasts, I have a question. I've recently become enamored with musket and line era warfare, and I'd like to play to that setting. The only problem is I remember Empire being...Bad, in the demo. Did it ever get better, or should I just spring for Napoleon? Or do I need both for the full experience?

I keep hearing that the problems of ETW are fixed by various mods.
But IDK so don't take my word for it.
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Postby OMGeverynameistaken » Thu Jul 05, 2012 11:01 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Zeyad wrote:Fellow Total War enthusiasts, I have a question. I've recently become enamored with musket and line era warfare, and I'd like to play to that setting. The only problem is I remember Empire being...Bad, in the demo. Did it ever get better, or should I just spring for Napoleon? Or do I need both for the full experience?

I keep hearing that the problems of ETW are fixed by various mods.
But IDK so don't take my word for it.

As I suggested earlier, Imperial Splendour. Get it. Nao.

I'm actually working as a historical advisor for the IS team in regards to the Russian faction. Their next major update is going to introduce multiple eras and correct uniforms for those eras. Much fun will be had.
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Postby Cromarty » Thu Jul 05, 2012 11:40 pm

OMGeverynameistaken wrote:
Genivaria wrote:I keep hearing that the problems of ETW are fixed by various mods.
But IDK so don't take my word for it.

As I suggested earlier, Imperial Splendour. Get it. Nao.

I'm actually working as a historical advisor for the IS team in regards to the Russian faction. Their next major update is going to introduce multiple eras and correct uniforms for those eras. Much fun will be had.

Imperial Splendour really is very good.
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Postby Ganos Lao » Fri Jul 06, 2012 1:06 am

Rome Total War and Medieval II Total War are two of my favorite games.

I've tried Empire Total War but it was just too buggy and what not, causing my interest in the game to fade away.

I dabbled in Shogun II Total War as well but I never got into it, really. Not saying it sucked or anything. I just didn't really feel it.
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Postby Thomsonia » Fri Jul 06, 2012 1:31 am

Zeyad wrote:Fellow Total War enthusiasts, I have a question. I've recently become enamored with musket and line era warfare, and I'd like to play to that setting. The only problem is I remember Empire being...Bad, in the demo. Did it ever get better, or should I just spring for Napoleon? Or do I need both for the full experience?


Napoleon really is fantastic, the vanilla battles are great fun on their own but there a ton of mods out there to beef up regiments and improve things if you like. The battles are actually fair representations of that era: artillery, cavalry and line infantry fighting in tandem. Personally, I believe there are fewer gaming experiences more satisfying than watching thousands of tiny Frenchmen get cut down by grapeshot.

Plus the campaign is great fun. I've spent waaay too long playing that game (400hours+) and it's still fun to mess around with. Like declaring war on everyone in the first turn for lulz or taking control of some crappy Italian microstate and conquering Europe.

It's only about £4 on amazon, definitely worth buying in my opinion. The only downside is that it can be a bit annoying with steam, the game is like 20 gig so downloading it or updates can take a while if you download straight from steam. Easier just to buy the disc.

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Postby Norstal » Fri Jul 06, 2012 2:54 am

So all Total War games after Empire require Steam? That means that if I were to buy a TW game from another vendor, it would register to my Steam account, right?
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Postby Mad hatters in jeans » Fri Jul 06, 2012 3:17 am

Norstal wrote:So all Total War games after Empire require Steam? That means that if I were to buy a TW game from another vendor, it would register to my Steam account, right?

yeah steam is probably required to play.
You can register other games you have into steam, ie ones from another vendor. I forget how but it's not too tricky.

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Postby Oterro » Fri Jul 06, 2012 6:37 am

Zeyad wrote:Fellow Total War enthusiasts, I have a question. I've recently become enamored with musket and line era warfare, and I'd like to play to that setting. The only problem is I remember Empire being...Bad, in the demo. Did it ever get better, or should I just spring for Napoleon? Or do I need both for the full experience?

What do you mean bad? I keep hearing that Empire is bad but coming off Rome and Medieval I wasn't disappointed. It was exactly what I expected and I was really pleased but I was pretty interested in that setting so.

The tech tree's neat and the factions, for all their lack of unit variation, feel different. Mostly anyway. Prussia definitely feels like you're an unstoppable force of nature surrounded by enemies, Britain feels like you've got a stronghold in Europe and are at odds with the French, Russia feels stagnant and slow, etc.

What's the demo like? Is it just a battle or does it bring you to the campaign map?
Norstal wrote:So all Total War games after Empire require Steam? That means that if I were to buy a TW game from another vendor, it would register to my Steam account, right?
I think amazon has ''activation codes'' or whatever, but I bought a copy of Empire on disc and i have steam achievements and stuff for it.

You can add non steam games to your library easily though - go to library, click the drop down menu, ''Add non-steam game to library'', tick the box next to [Game], add programs, done.
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Postby OMGeverynameistaken » Fri Jul 06, 2012 1:23 pm

Thomsonia wrote:
Zeyad wrote:Fellow Total War enthusiasts, I have a question. I've recently become enamored with musket and line era warfare, and I'd like to play to that setting. The only problem is I remember Empire being...Bad, in the demo. Did it ever get better, or should I just spring for Napoleon? Or do I need both for the full experience?


Napoleon really is fantastic, the vanilla battles are great fun on their own but there a ton of mods out there to beef up regiments and improve things if you like. The battles are actually fair representations of that era: artillery, cavalry and line infantry fighting in tandem. Personally, I believe there are fewer gaming experiences more satisfying than watching thousands of tiny Frenchmen get cut down by grapeshot.

Plus the campaign is great fun. I've spent waaay too long playing that game (400hours+) and it's still fun to mess around with. Like declaring war on everyone in the first turn for lulz or taking control of some crappy Italian microstate and conquering Europe.

It's only about £4 on amazon, definitely worth buying in my opinion. The only downside is that it can be a bit annoying with steam, the game is like 20 gig so downloading it or updates can take a while if you download straight from steam. Easier just to buy the disc.

NTW's battles really don't approximate Napoleonic warfare.

For one thing, there's no incentive to use columns. You don't get any kind of morale or melee bonus, which means one of the greatest tactical tools of the time is basically only useful if you want your men to get slaughtered by cannons.

The usefulness of howitzers to cannons is basically inverted from IRL. Napoleonic Howitzers did not have magical seeking shells, while artillery generally did not, for whatever godawful reason, shoot at the right edge of units for whatever reason.

And don't get me started on the uniforms...

I will say, however, that it is better at representing its era than Empire. But that's really not saying much.
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Postby Oterro » Fri Jul 06, 2012 1:30 pm

If you play games for realism, punch yourself in the face.
we, unlike the bourgeoisie, have nothing to lose and therefore our expression will be the only honest one, our words will be the only challenging ones and our art will be the one revolutionary expression. We need new noise and new voices and new canvases to become something more than the last poets of a useless generation.

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