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by NeuPolska » Thu Mar 22, 2018 5:02 am
Kar-Esseria wrote:Who is that and are they female because if not then they can go make love to their hand.
Impaled Nazarene wrote:Go home Polska wins NS.
United Mongol Hordes wrote:Polska isn't exactly the nicest guy in the world
Impaled Nazarene wrote:Hurd you miss the point more than Polska misses Poland.
Rhodesialund wrote:when you have Charlie ten feet away or something operating operationally.
Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:Gayla is living in 1985 but these guys are already in 1916
by The first Galactic Republic » Thu Mar 22, 2018 8:10 am
NeuPolska wrote:Empire as a concept interested me quite a bit. But Britain doesn’t really go after India and every one of my campaigns turns into a long, drawn out war with the Maratha Confederacy that just completely ruins the whole campaign for me. The AI being shit at fighting battles doesn’t help, either.
by NeuPolska » Thu Mar 22, 2018 8:43 am
Kar-Esseria wrote:Who is that and are they female because if not then they can go make love to their hand.
Impaled Nazarene wrote:Go home Polska wins NS.
United Mongol Hordes wrote:Polska isn't exactly the nicest guy in the world
Impaled Nazarene wrote:Hurd you miss the point more than Polska misses Poland.
Rhodesialund wrote:when you have Charlie ten feet away or something operating operationally.
Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:Gayla is living in 1985 but these guys are already in 1916
by The Huskar Social Union » Thu Mar 22, 2018 9:21 am
The first Galactic Republic wrote:NeuPolska wrote:Empire as a concept interested me quite a bit. But Britain doesn’t really go after India and every one of my campaigns turns into a long, drawn out war with the Maratha Confederacy that just completely ruins the whole campaign for me. The AI being shit at fighting battles doesn’t help, either.
I actually had to download a mod to keep the orange horde from gobbling up half the world. They’re too aggressive, the AI doesn’t seem to mind their expansion, and they have bottomless amounts of money. The Marathas have it way too easy.
Any other factions anyone believes to be poorly balanced? I remember Egypt would always dominate in Rome I, and Milan was pretty bad in Medieval II.
by Zanera » Thu Mar 22, 2018 3:07 pm
The first Galactic Republic wrote:NeuPolska wrote:Empire as a concept interested me quite a bit. But Britain doesn’t really go after India and every one of my campaigns turns into a long, drawn out war with the Maratha Confederacy that just completely ruins the whole campaign for me. The AI being shit at fighting battles doesn’t help, either.
I actually had to download a mod to keep the orange horde from gobbling up half the world. They’re too aggressive, the AI doesn’t seem to mind their expansion, and they have bottomless amounts of money. The Marathas have it way too easy.
Any other factions anyone believes to be poorly balanced? I remember Egypt would always dominate in Rome I, and Milan was pretty bad in Medieval II.
by The first Galactic Republic » Thu Mar 22, 2018 3:47 pm
Zanera wrote:The first Galactic Republic wrote:I actually had to download a mod to keep the orange horde from gobbling up half the world. They’re too aggressive, the AI doesn’t seem to mind their expansion, and they have bottomless amounts of money. The Marathas have it way too easy.
Any other factions anyone believes to be poorly balanced? I remember Egypt would always dominate in Rome I, and Milan was pretty bad in Medieval II.
Found myself ready to invade Persia after I conquered India, and in a Dutch campaign the Marathans were starting to eat away at the Balkans by the end of the campaign.
by NeuPolska » Thu Mar 22, 2018 4:11 pm
Kar-Esseria wrote:Who is that and are they female because if not then they can go make love to their hand.
Impaled Nazarene wrote:Go home Polska wins NS.
United Mongol Hordes wrote:Polska isn't exactly the nicest guy in the world
Impaled Nazarene wrote:Hurd you miss the point more than Polska misses Poland.
Rhodesialund wrote:when you have Charlie ten feet away or something operating operationally.
Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:Gayla is living in 1985 but these guys are already in 1916
by Zanera » Thu Mar 22, 2018 4:52 pm
The first Galactic Republic wrote:Zanera wrote:
Found myself ready to invade Persia after I conquered India, and in a Dutch campaign the Marathans were starting to eat away at the Balkans by the end of the campaign.
Once I was Spain. After carefully and narrowly fending off an early game British offensive, the Marathas sailed over and seized two of my Caribbean islands.
Much historical accuracy. Such diplomacy.
by The first Galactic Republic » Thu Mar 22, 2018 5:06 pm
NeuPolska wrote:Empire required a lot more diplomacy, tactics, and historical goal-making than CA was prepared to actually develop, I think. If the general gameplay and graphics (and even tactics tbh) of Napoleon were used in Empire and diplomacy was actually complex enough to reflect the realities of the 18th century, with administrative mismanagement being more prevelant, then Empire would have been a glorious game.
by The Two Jerseys » Thu Mar 22, 2018 5:24 pm
The first Galactic Republic wrote:Zanera wrote:
Found myself ready to invade Persia after I conquered India, and in a Dutch campaign the Marathans were starting to eat away at the Balkans by the end of the campaign.
Once I was Spain. After carefully and narrowly fending off an early game British offensive, the Marathas sailed over and seized two of my Caribbean islands.
Much historical accuracy. Such diplomacy.
by The first Galactic Republic » Thu Mar 22, 2018 8:47 pm
The Two Jerseys wrote:The first Galactic Republic wrote:Once I was Spain. After carefully and narrowly fending off an early game British offensive, the Marathas sailed over and seized two of my Caribbean islands.
Much historical accuracy. Such diplomacy.
Yet when you actually play as the Marathas, the Mughals anally rape your navy like you're their prison bitch unless you literally build a full stack of brigs & schooners and go at them in a fleet action...
by Mike the Progressive » Thu Mar 22, 2018 10:12 pm
by Mike the Progressive » Thu Mar 22, 2018 10:22 pm
The first Galactic Republic wrote:NeuPolska wrote:Empire required a lot more diplomacy, tactics, and historical goal-making than CA was prepared to actually develop, I think. If the general gameplay and graphics (and even tactics tbh) of Napoleon were used in Empire and diplomacy was actually complex enough to reflect the realities of the 18th century, with administrative mismanagement being more prevelant, then Empire would have been a glorious game.
And I think it could have been balanced better. Empire is probably my favorite Total War conceptually. It just falls short of greatness, though I still like it a lot.
The AI needs some modifications. The Marathas need to be less aggressive and the Mughals need to be more developed. The Europeans should also be more willing to expand in the Americas and India.
Some more playable factions would’ve been cool. I feel like the Mughals, Portuguese, Danish, and maybe even Persians were meant to be playable early in development. They’re a lot more developed than other minor factions, so it’d be cool to have them as playable. Also why is Switzerland just a blank wild space?
Some factions need to be more aggressive. Spain, Austria, and Russia frequently just sit around and do nothing. Minor factions should also be more willing to build up.
Though this would be very different from standard Total War mechanics, I think it’d be cool to be able to colonize wild space. Kind of like how Africa can be developed in Victoria II, you should be able to expand into the Americas more. It’d also be cool to do this with the trade theatres. Maybe have it so that controlling a trade theatre long enough allows you to develop a region there. This period of colonization should allow us to actually colonize.
I may be in the minority here, but I think it’d be cool if the Pope was like he was in Medieval II. He’d be less powerful in this time period, but there should still be some kind of mechanic for that.
Republics need more work. Some factions have no reason to go Republic since they lose their best units. Republics should at least come with special units.
Monarchies also need more work. Marriage alliances from Medieval II should come back, and wars of succession should be more likely. Monarchs also shouldn’t live so damn long, and it should be possible to assassinate them. You should also be able to actually see your royal family tree.
I wish the game would keep better records. For example, it’d be cool if there was a list of all the generals that have ever served in your empire and their accomplishments.
Some factions need some more love. Spain, Sweden, Poland, and Austria in particular are really generic.
The American campaign is really boring.
Why do trade goods have to be able to reach your capital before they can exist in your economy?
I guess a lot of these suggestions come across as minor nitpicks, but I really do think the game falls just short of greatness.
As previously mentioned, it could also really do with some of Napoleon’s gameplay mechanics.
by Mike the Progressive » Thu Mar 22, 2018 10:25 pm
by The Huskar Social Union » Fri Mar 23, 2018 2:13 am
Mike the Progressive wrote:I am a tad excited about Three Kingdoms though. I do wish they'd make a Victorian Era one, where it's the Great Game with all the world powers circa 1850/60s- 1910/20s. How amazing would that be?
by The first Galactic Republic » Fri Mar 23, 2018 5:13 am
by The Huskar Social Union » Fri Mar 23, 2018 6:59 am
The first Galactic Republic wrote:Fall of the Samurai proved that a Total War game could work with technology from that era, and it also proved that CA could have factions of varying different tech levels and still make it work. I’ve been wanting a global Victorian Total War ever since. They’ve got to work on the diplomacy first though.
by Mike the Progressive » Fri Mar 23, 2018 9:30 am
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Mike the Progressive wrote:I am a tad excited about Three Kingdoms though. I do wish they'd make a Victorian Era one, where it's the Great Game with all the world powers circa 1850/60s- 1910/20s. How amazing would that be?
I would recreate rorkes drift from Zulu almost immediately.
by The first Galactic Republic » Fri Mar 23, 2018 5:40 pm
by NeuPolska » Fri Mar 23, 2018 5:42 pm
The first Galactic Republic wrote:Freaking Carlos II in Empire. Historically he died the year the game starts, but in Empire he tends to be immortal and is a terrible leader. He also has kids when he was impotent in real life, which prevents the War of Spanish Succession from happening.
Kar-Esseria wrote:Who is that and are they female because if not then they can go make love to their hand.
Impaled Nazarene wrote:Go home Polska wins NS.
United Mongol Hordes wrote:Polska isn't exactly the nicest guy in the world
Impaled Nazarene wrote:Hurd you miss the point more than Polska misses Poland.
Rhodesialund wrote:when you have Charlie ten feet away or something operating operationally.
Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:Gayla is living in 1985 but these guys are already in 1916
by The Two Jerseys » Fri Mar 23, 2018 6:00 pm
The first Galactic Republic wrote:The Two Jerseys wrote:Yet when you actually play as the Marathas, the Mughals anally rape your navy like you're their prison bitch unless you literally build a full stack of brigs & schooners and go at them in a fleet action...
I just got done conquering India at the start of a Maratha campaign. Though the Mughal Navy did blockade my ports and cut my trade income in half, I was able to conquer all of their land territories by 1712. No need to fear a navy if you can destroy the country supporting it.
by The first Galactic Republic » Fri Mar 23, 2018 6:10 pm
by Mike the Progressive » Fri Mar 23, 2018 6:37 pm
The first Galactic Republic wrote:Wars of succession weren’t handled very well in Empire anyways. If it did happen, it usually just meant you were at war with one more country that was usually so far away it couldn’t do anything to you.
They could also get pretty ridiculous. One time as Spain I had Poland declare war on me because my leader died. Really? Poland is going to claim my throne? In another game I had the Netherlands as a Republic declare war on me when my leader died as Austria. Why would a Republic care about the throne of a monarchy? Is the President going to be the King of Austria? Would they have it so that each President was also the President of Austria? None of this makes any sense.
by The first Galactic Republic » Fri Mar 23, 2018 6:41 pm
Mike the Progressive wrote:The first Galactic Republic wrote:Wars of succession weren’t handled very well in Empire anyways. If it did happen, it usually just meant you were at war with one more country that was usually so far away it couldn’t do anything to you.
They could also get pretty ridiculous. One time as Spain I had Poland declare war on me because my leader died. Really? Poland is going to claim my throne? In another game I had the Netherlands as a Republic declare war on me when my leader died as Austria. Why would a Republic care about the throne of a monarchy? Is the President going to be the King of Austria? Would they have it so that each President was also the President of Austria? None of this makes any sense.
The Dutch Republic actually did go to war over the succession and as always the fear wasn't who was king or wasn't but the consolidation of power under one sovereign. In this case Philip was suppose to renounce his title in France to become King of Spain, ignored this and that's what triggered the war. Fear of Spain and France with one sovereign. The Dutch already distrustful of the Spanish and their influence in the region, did not want France directly under the same sovereign, so it perfectly makes sense.
But I don't know. I always felt bad for Charles. Clearly a product on inbreeding.
by The Two Jerseys » Fri Mar 23, 2018 6:43 pm
The first Galactic Republic wrote:Wars of succession weren’t handled very well in Empire anyways. If it did happen, it usually just meant you were at war with one more country that was usually so far away it couldn’t do anything to you.
They could also get pretty ridiculous. One time as Spain I had Poland declare war on me because my leader died. Really? Poland is going to claim my throne?
In another game I had the Netherlands as a Republic declare war on me when my leader died as Austria. Why would a Republic care about the throne of a monarchy? Is the President going to be the King of Austria? Would they have it so that each President was also the President of Austria? None of this makes any sense.
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