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Postby Person012345 » Tue Dec 10, 2013 1:34 am

North Wiedna wrote:
Person012345 wrote:Not at all. Taking it as an absolute is bad reading.

people do take them as absolutes, and they also tend to look at the score and not the writing behind it. that makes it a bad system because it's contrary to how normal people work. if you try to defend it by saying "well... those people are dumb!" you're not doing any better to make them smarter

And yet it doesn't make giving it a score bad reviewing. It still means that people are idiots. Normal people can get fucked, if they don't want to read the review they can go buy a shitty piece of media. I like scores because they help me, in conjunction with the article, get a better impression of what the reviewer thought overall.
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Person012345 wrote:And yet it doesn't make giving it a score bad reviewing. It still means that people are idiots. Normal people can get fucked, if they don't want to read the review they can go buy a shitty piece of media. I like scores because they help me, in conjunction with the article, get a better impression of what the reviewer thought overall.

Or reviewers rate something low that is interesting and unique because they don't understand it or it's 'too slow' (Honestly, if you're a major reviewer reviewing games, movies, and so on, I think you should be able to handle all types of speeds of entertainment for me to take you seriously), and the low rating doesn't actually mean it is shitty at all.

Ravenous is rated 54%, and that is one of the movies I want to see the most because of how good I've heard it is.

It all depends the reviewers, and too many shitty reviewers skew the whole rating system.
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Postby Person012345 » Tue Dec 10, 2013 2:14 am

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Person012345 wrote:And yet it doesn't make giving it a score bad reviewing. It still means that people are idiots. Normal people can get fucked, if they don't want to read the review they can go buy a shitty piece of media. I like scores because they help me, in conjunction with the article, get a better impression of what the reviewer thought overall.

Or reviewers rate something low that is interesting and unique because they don't understand it or it's 'too slow' (Honestly, if you're a major reviewer reviewing games, movies, and so on, I think you should be able to handle all types of speeds of entertainment for me to take you seriously), and the low rating doesn't actually mean it is shitty at all.

Ravenous is rated 54%, and that is one of the movies I want to see the most because of how good I've heard it is.

It all depends the reviewers, and too many shitty reviewers skew the whole rating system.

I'm not really talking about metacritic, or corrupt reviewers here. Just the notion of attaching a score to a review and how I like it. And if people are so moronic as to look at a score and only buy things above 7 then they are idiots who I don't care about. It's not bad review practice. I won't deny that people do that and it negatively affects some media whilst not affecting others as badly, but that doesn't make it bad review practice, it makes people idiots.

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Postby Corrian » Tue Dec 10, 2013 5:13 am

New Alcest song

Not entirely sure what to think yet. Sounds kind of nice but it doesn't seem as good as some of his other stuff. It might grow on me, though.
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Postby Azrael » Tue Dec 10, 2013 6:26 am

Corrian wrote:New Alcest song

Not entirely sure what to think yet. Sounds kind of nice but it doesn't seem as good as some of his other stuff. It might grow on me, though.

Yeah, I listened to that the day it came out and a few times since then. Makes me think of U2 meets Sigur Ros and I think the same way about it as you do. It's nice-sounding but it just doesn't have anything else going for it, really. It lacks the personality I've come to like out of Alcest.
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Postby Horusland » Tue Dec 10, 2013 6:32 am

I've never heard of any of the albums talked about in the last page.
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Postby Anollasia » Tue Dec 10, 2013 2:14 pm

Anyone here like U2?

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Postby Mayane » Tue Dec 10, 2013 2:20 pm

Anollasia wrote:Anyone here like U2?


I think they are nice, don't listen to them though, only know some nice tracks.

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Postby Vareiln » Tue Dec 10, 2013 2:21 pm

Corrian wrote:New Alcest song

Not entirely sure what to think yet. Sounds kind of nice but it doesn't seem as good as some of his other stuff. It might grow on me, though.

Heard it wasn't so good. I'll listen to it later.
In other news, I finally got around to Slidhr's Deluge album. Goddamn was it awesome.
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Postby Anollasia » Tue Dec 10, 2013 3:04 pm

Mayane wrote:
Anollasia wrote:Anyone here like U2?


I think they are nice, don't listen to them though, only know some nice tracks.


I like all of the tracks I've heard so far, so I'm interested in them.

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Postby PikaMiaowMeow » Wed Dec 11, 2013 2:14 pm

Listening to Lemon Jelly - Space Walk and Nice Weather for Ducks.

Also listening to TOY - Endlessly. This has to be one of my most favortie songs at the moment. I just think it's extremely catchy. Join the Dots is a pretty cool album.

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Postby Person012345 » Wed Dec 11, 2013 5:23 pm

San wrote:I'm gonna have to look up how to use the lumia's camera, because it is damned confusing.
Ainin wrote:"Heavy metal (often referred to as metal) is a genre of rock music[1] that developed in the late 1960s and early 1970s, originally in the United Kingdom and later in the United States.[2] With roots in blues rock and psychedelic rock, the bands that created heavy metal developed a thick, massive sound, characterized by highly amplified distortion, extended guitar solos, emphatic beats, and overall loudness. Heavy metal lyrics and performance styles are often associated with masculinity, aggression and machismo.[3]"
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and this is where you stop making sense

1) blindly urting wikipedia definitions is the worst way to go about anything
2) rock and metal are completely different genres. it like saying r&b and pop are the same, honestly
3) that wasn't even my point. i was saying it would make more sense for there to be "rock", "alternative/indie" and "metal" instead of "rock/indie" and "alternative/metal" ("rock/alternative" and simply "metal" would work also, even though it's a little more vague)
4) since this is the tech discussion thread rather than "this genre is the same as this genre because jimbo wales says so!" wouldn't moving this discussion over to here be of use?

Metal is a sub-genre of rock.

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Postby San » Wed Dec 11, 2013 5:27 pm

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San wrote:I'm gonna have to look up how to use the lumia's camera, because it is damned confusing.

and this is where you stop making sense

1) blindly urting wikipedia definitions is the worst way to go about anything
2) rock and metal are completely different genres. it like saying r&b and pop are the same, honestly
3) that wasn't even my point. i was saying it would make more sense for there to be "rock", "alternative/indie" and "metal" instead of "rock/indie" and "alternative/metal" ("rock/alternative" and simply "metal" would work also, even though it's a little more vague)
4) since this is the tech discussion thread rather than "this genre is the same as this genre because jimbo wales says so!" wouldn't moving this discussion over to here be of use?

Metal is a sub-genre of rock.

just the same as r&b can be called a subgenre of pop

imo metal has progressed far enough to be called its own genre
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Postby Hurdegaryp » Wed Dec 11, 2013 5:28 pm

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San wrote:I'm gonna have to look up how to use the lumia's camera, because it is damned confusing.

and this is where you stop making sense

1) blindly urting wikipedia definitions is the worst way to go about anything
2) rock and metal are completely different genres. it like saying r&b and pop are the same, honestly
3) that wasn't even my point. i was saying it would make more sense for there to be "rock", "alternative/indie" and "metal" instead of "rock/indie" and "alternative/metal" ("rock/alternative" and simply "metal" would work also, even though it's a little more vague)
4) since this is the tech discussion thread rather than "this genre is the same as this genre because jimbo wales says so!" wouldn't moving this discussion over to here be of use?

Metal is a sub-genre of rock.

Indeed. Personally I don't understand why some persons seem dead serious about metal not being a type of rock music. Lack of general knowledge? Hell, some time ago somebody was silly enough to claim that metalcore not only was not affiliated with metal, but it also wasn't rock music. It really makes me wonder what those electric guitars are for, then.
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Postby Person012345 » Wed Dec 11, 2013 5:34 pm

San wrote:just the same as r&b can be called a subgenre of pop

imo metal has progressed far enough to be called its own genre

I don't really know what constitutes R&B that makes it it's own genre. From youtubing "R&B" I'd definitely call it a subgenre of pop, although that will no doubt be the terribad mainstream stuff that sounds like pop the most because pop is popular and is what is mainstream.

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Postby Corrian » Wed Dec 11, 2013 5:48 pm

Person012345 wrote:
San wrote:just the same as r&b can be called a subgenre of pop

imo metal has progressed far enough to be called its own genre

I don't really know what constitutes R&B that makes it it's own genre. From youtubing "R&B" I'd definitely call it a subgenre of pop, although that will no doubt be the terribad mainstream stuff that sounds like pop the most because pop is popular and is what is mainstream.

I almost feel like all radio play anything is pop something at this point. Pop rock, pop country, pop R&B, whatever.
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Postby Corrian » Wed Dec 11, 2013 6:50 pm

Got my Fear of a Blank Planet by Porcupine Tree CD in the mail a few days ago (but just not reminded my dad it may be my early Christmas present that doesn't need to wait until Christmas, so he checked to see if that was what it was). Yes! It's amazing how exciting it feels to have a physical CD. I may be 19 and in the digital age of music listening and whatnot, but I have this liking of actually having physical CD's despite that, and I'd rather have a CD then JUST MP3's.

Besides: The instant I put the CD into my computer, it gives me the option to rip the CD to my computer, which I can turn that into MP3's...Which when I have a portable device I can then use. All while still having a physical CD and artwork.

There's the whole argument of the fact CD's start taking up too much space, and I can understand that, but I'd rather the bit of taking up space that video games, movies, and so on in my life are going to take up anyway, what's the big deal of a few hundred music CD's on the top of that?

Also, as much as I think Spotify has decent quality audio (even better if you pay monthly), CD's are definitely always superior to Spotify quality which is commonly leagues better then YouTube quality, with a few exceptions of very high quality on YouTube.
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Postby Ancient Magmia » Wed Dec 11, 2013 7:55 pm

Corrian wrote:Got my Fear of a Blank Planet by Porcupine Tree CD in the mail a few days ago (but just not reminded my dad it may be my early Christmas present that doesn't need to wait until Christmas, so he checked to see if that was what it was). Yes! It's amazing how exciting it feels to have a physical CD. I may be 19 and in the digital age of music listening and whatnot, but I have this liking of actually having physical CD's despite that, and I'd rather have a CD then JUST MP3's.

Besides: The instant I put the CD into my computer, it gives me the option to rip the CD to my computer, which I can turn that into MP3's...Which when I have a portable device I can then use. All while still having a physical CD and artwork.

There's the whole argument of the fact CD's start taking up too much space, and I can understand that, but I'd rather the bit of taking up space that video games, movies, and so on in my life are going to take up anyway, what's the big deal of a few hundred music CD's on the top of that?

Also, as much as I think Spotify has decent quality audio (even better if you pay monthly), CD's are definitely always superior to Spotify quality which is commonly leagues better then YouTube quality, with a few exceptions of very high quality on YouTube.

My sentiments exactly. There's more 'versatility' with CDs since they can be ripped.
It's like books; a digital copy (whether it be on a phone, Kindle, etc.) is just not as nice as having a physical copy.

Spotify is great unless you're driving, or you want to use some type of music app...then you're screwed.
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Postby Corrian » Wed Dec 11, 2013 9:31 pm

Ancient Magmia wrote:My sentiments exactly. There's more 'versatility' with CDs since they can be ripped.
It's like books; a digital copy (whether it be on a phone, Kindle, etc.) is just not as nice as having a physical copy.

Spotify is great unless you're driving, or you want to use some type of music app...then you're screwed.

But at the same time, I like that we're getting away from paper materials entirely...So the death of books is kind of a hit and miss for me. Same with newspapers. They can slowly die because they use too much paper.

If they were just made of hemp instead...

Spotify is nice for listening to my favorite albums until I can buy more CD's myself and listening to new music to see how much I like it, and sorting them out into categories and whatnot. But I don't want to use it as solely my way of listening to music, because the artists get payed shit on Spotify. Hence me wanting to still buy physical CD's. It can be my way of discovering new music and seeing if I deem an album actually worth buying (There's a lot I like but would never physically own, or at least not over 100's of other priorities), and then if it is, I buy it and listen to it that way.

Fear of a Blank Planet isn't even on Spotify anymore, so this is nice to have.
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Postby Cadonica » Wed Dec 11, 2013 10:08 pm

Corrian wrote:It can be my way of discovering new music and seeing if I deem an album actually worth buying (There's a lot I like but would never physically own, or at least not over 100's of other priorities), and then if it is, I buy it and listen to it that way.

I've blind bought 5 or 6 CDs,one was meh, one was so bad I sold it forward but the rest were lucky hits. Some of those excellent ones include Soulburn's Feeding on Angels, Urn's Soul Destroyers. There's also bunch of albums I bought based on ONE song I heard from it.
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Postby Ancient Magmia » Wed Dec 11, 2013 10:42 pm

Corrian wrote:But at the same time, I like that we're getting away from paper materials entirely...So the death of books is kind of a hit and miss for me. Same with newspapers. They can slowly die because they use too much paper.

If they were just made of hemp instead...

That's a good point.

It would certainly be nice if they were made of hemp, but unfortunately that probably won't happen...*sigh*

Spotify is nice for listening to my favorite albums until I can buy more CD's myself and listening to new music to see how much I like it, and sorting them out into categories and whatnot. But I don't want to use it as solely my way of listening to music, because the artists get payed shit on Spotify. Hence me wanting to still buy physical CD's. It can be my way of discovering new music and seeing if I deem an album actually worth buying (There's a lot I like but would never physically own, or at least not over 100's of other priorities), and then if it is, I buy it and listen to it that way.

Fear of a Blank Planet isn't even on Spotify anymore, so this is nice to have.

Yeah, Spotify's been great with helping me find albums I would actually want physical copies of.
The only problems I have with Spotify are, like you said, the artists are paid shit, and the inability to categorize playlists. Several of my playlists are either albums or songs from a single artist, and it would be nice to not have to go through my 50+ list of playlists (though I think that's probably small compared to other's lists in this thread :p ) to find the one I'm looking for.

Also, their mobile app (at least on my phone) is really shitty sometimes.
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Postby Corrian » Wed Dec 11, 2013 10:53 pm

Ancient Magmia wrote:Yeah, Spotify's been great with helping me find albums I would actually want physical copies of.
The only problems I have with Spotify are, like you said, the artists are paid shit, and the inability to categorize playlists. Several of my playlists are either albums or songs from a single artist, and it would be nice to not have to go through my 50+ list of playlists (though I think that's probably small compared to other's lists in this thread :p ) to find the one I'm looking for.

Also, their mobile app (at least on my phone) is really shitty sometimes.

Go to Spotify, then to File, and then to "New Playlist Folder". Took me forever to figure that out and my gazillion playlists were scattered all over the place and were a joke to go through. Now I have about 15 to 20 folders categorized by genre/types of playlist and put all the playlists into those folders and collapse them, and put them in alphabetical order after I go through the playlists. Makes it much easier to access them and find what I'm looking for. I thought the whole folder thing was like something on my computer that would be a pain in the ass to access, but nope.
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Postby Ancient Magmia » Wed Dec 11, 2013 10:55 pm

Corrian wrote:
Ancient Magmia wrote:Yeah, Spotify's been great with helping me find albums I would actually want physical copies of.
The only problems I have with Spotify are, like you said, the artists are paid shit, and the inability to categorize playlists. Several of my playlists are either albums or songs from a single artist, and it would be nice to not have to go through my 50+ list of playlists (though I think that's probably small compared to other's lists in this thread :p ) to find the one I'm looking for.

Also, their mobile app (at least on my phone) is really shitty sometimes.

Go to Spotify, then to File, and then to "New Playlist Folder". Took me forever to figure that out and my gazillion playlists were scattered all over the place and were a joke to go through. Now I have about 15 to 20 folders categorized by genre/types of playlist and put all the playlists into those folders and collapse them, and put them in alphabetical order after I go through the playlists. Makes it much easier to access them and find what I'm looking for. I thought the whole folder thing was like something on my computer that would be a pain in the ass to access, but nope.

THANK YOU! :bow:
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Ancient Magmia wrote:THANK YOU! :bow:
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No problem:)

What's your Spotify username, anyway?
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Postby Ancient Magmia » Wed Dec 11, 2013 11:10 pm

Corrian wrote:
Ancient Magmia wrote:THANK YOU! :bow:
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No problem:)

What's your Spotify username, anyway?

You know, that's another thing I don't like about Spotify; you have to have a Facebook account and it uses your regular name...unless you can use another username and I just don't know it.

I'll just post the Spotify URI since it's easier: spotify:user:1265229206
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