General Music Discussion

[Der Landstreicher]

OFFICIAL POST PUNK AND NEW WAVE BAND POWER RANKINGS

1) Magazine
2) Talking Heads
3) The Strangers
4) Television
5) Joy Division

no they're not different enough to get separate rankings you mother fucker

You've got it all wrong.

1)Joy Division
2)Bauhaus
3)Gang of Four
4)Chameleons
5)The Sound

This isn't even going into New Wave or Post Punk Revival/New New Wave

Are This Heat 2deep4u?

This Heat are good, very experimental.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDAr24H-tKU

[Oterro]

1)Joy Division
2)Bauhaus
3)Gang of Four
4)Chameleons
5)The Sound

This isn't even going into New Wave or Post Punk Revival/New New Wave

but joy division were fantastically overrated

curtis was a rubbish vocalist and unknown pleasures was really hit or miss

infact revised list

1) Magazine
2) Talking Heads
3) The Stranglers
4) Breaking Circus
5) Television

[Der Landstreicher]

Rubbish vocalist? You've got to be shitting me, Ian's voice is orgasmic. Howard Deveto's voice is too high and Shot by Both Sides is only a meh song. He was better back in the Buzzcocks if you ask me, Boredom is a great song. If anyone is overrated it's Siouxsie and the Banshees and PiL. Siouxsie is a beautiful woman but her music is sadly "meh", perhaps I haven't listened to it enough. PiL is only good for Rise.

[Vecherd]

My sense of music mainly includes Finnish, Israeli and Indian Psychedelic Trance and some Faroese folk metal also Psychedelic Rock and some 60s and 70s rock.

[Oterro]

Rubbish vocalist? You've got to be shitting me, Ian's voice is orgasmic. Howard Deveto's voice is too high and Shot by Both Sides is only a meh song. He was better back in the Buzzcocks if you ask me, Boredom is a great song. If anyone is overrated it's Siouxsie and the Banshees and PiL. Siouxsie is a beautiful woman but her music is sadly "meh", perhaps I haven't listened to it enough. PiL is only good for Rise.

Devoto has one of the most unique and sinister voices I've ever heard, and it holds up live. It's not a good idea to judge Magazine off of Real Life - it's got some really strong tracks and hints at what they'd become, but really, they came into their own sound on Secondhand Daylight which is probably my favourite NW album. At least Devoto went for something other than whine whine whine whine, it gets old. I haven't heard Closer though so maybe I'm doing for Joy Division what you're doing for Magazine. Shot by Both Sides is a great rock track but, again, it's not Magaziney at all.

Spiral Scratch is a good EP and I agree Devoto is a better frontman than Shelley, but Buzzcocks were never anything more than average punk rock in my opinion.

[Maresborough]

I dont know what everyones talking about currenyly, but its all 80's for me, with some electronic

[Meryuma]

Are This Heat 2deep4u?

Give me a sample that will make me consider them possibly being worthy of being present in the presence of Howard Devoto.

From This Heat: Twilight Furniture

From Deceit: SPQR

[Der Landstreicher]

Rubbish vocalist? You've got to be shitting me, Ian's voice is orgasmic. Howard Deveto's voice is too high and Shot by Both Sides is only a meh song. He was better back in the Buzzcocks if you ask me, Boredom is a great song. If anyone is overrated it's Siouxsie and the Banshees and PiL. Siouxsie is a beautiful woman but her music is sadly "meh", perhaps I haven't listened to it enough. PiL is only good for Rise.

Devoto has one of the most unique and sinister voices I've ever heard, and it holds up live. It's not a good idea to judge Magazine off of Real Life - it's got some really strong tracks and hints at what they'd become, but really, they came into their own sound on Secondhand Daylight which is probably my favourite NW album. At least Devoto went for something other than whine whine whine whine, it gets old. I haven't heard Closer though so maybe I'm doing for Joy Division what you're doing for Magazine. Shot by Both Sides is a great rock track but, again, it's not Magaziney at all.

Spiral Scratch is a good EP and I agree Devoto is a better frontman than Shelley, but Buzzcocks were never anything more than average punk rock in my opinion.

Whine whine whine? Really? This is terrible mischaracterization of anything Joy Division, I've doubt you've seriously listened to any of their albums. I've listened to Real Life, Secondhand Daylight, and The Correct Use of Soap however there's nothing there for me. There's nothing really unique or "sinister" about his voice, he's not a terrible singer but there's not special about him either. Sure both Secondhand Daylight and The Correct Use of Soap are step ups from Real Life but there's nothing there that's special.

[Corrian]

They don't need to get over them 'not' thinking Primus sucks, because they don't think Primus sucks. Some people like Primus. Get over it.

You don't get it. I like Primus.

Sorry. I didn't know about the 'joke'. I just get sick of everyone bashing each others music opinions and thinking their opinion is superior to others, so yeah, I get kinda irked easy about that.

They don't need to get over them 'not' thinking Primus sucks, because they don't think Primus sucks. Some people like Primus. Get over it.

probably best to google primus sucks to see if there's a joke there

Sadly I can't know every little thing that is said is a joke, because jokes and sarcasm can be harder to pick out on the internet.

My sense of music mainly includes Finnish, Israeli and Indian Psychedelic Trance and some Faroese folk metal also Psychedelic Rock and some 60s and 70s rock.

Have you heard of Infected Mushroom then? They are a Israeli Psychedelic Trance band, and they are pretty good. They also have an assortment of other genre's mixed in too.

As far as Finland goes, this is about all I know of their music. But I am always interested in finding out about new bands from all over the world, so if you got any, please send them my way.

I don't know a whole lot of Indian music either, but this is a cool compilation of groups. Same deal here: You got stuff, please share it. Of course, that also depends if you mean India music, or the falsely-named "Indians" in America. I've heard some pretty cool "Native American" music before.

I dont know what everyones talking about currenyly, but its all 80's for me, with some electronic

Since I despise most of the 80's music I've heard, I don't think I can help you with any new music. Though, I could help on the electronic regard (if modern electronic counts)

[Meryuma]

At least Devoto went for something other than whine whine whine whine, it gets old.

I wouldn't call Ian Curtis' vocals whining as much as depressed bellowing.

[Corrian]

Lazy short new song post:
For all you people who love post-rock music like I do (and ambient mix), here's a great Post-Rock song with vocals (which is rare in itself) that I just ran across. Really digging this song for some reason.

[North Wiedna]

Post-punk and new-wave are extremely different, and mixing them is a sin.

anyway

1. This Heat
2. Ivanov Down
3. TV Ghost
4. Mission to Burma
5. Yolz in the Sky

>new wave
>good enough to make the list

[Corrian]

Some of my favorite songs are songs that mix multiple genre's together, but I have no idea of 'post-punk' or whatever and 'new wave', whatever the heck counts as new wave, really fit together at all.

This I believe was referred as new-wave, at least by my mom, who was saying she 'hated' the new wave shit. Honestly, I don't really care for these guys that much, but when apparently my dad, my sister, and I were bored watching their concert on some TV channel, even though I didn't care for them that much, I gave them credit for being somewhat 'different'. I'd rather 'different' over 'generic I've-heard-this-50-times' Butt-Rock.

[North Wiedna]

Some of my favorite songs are songs that mix multiple genre's together, but I have no idea of 'post-punk' or whatever and 'new wave', whatever the heck counts as new wave, really fit together at all.

This I believe was referred as new-wave, at least by my mom, who was saying she 'hated' the new wave shit. Honestly, I don't really care for these guys that much, but when apparently my dad, my sister, and I were bored watching their concert on some TV channel, even though I didn't care for them that much, I gave them credit for being somewhat 'different'. I'd rather 'different' over 'generic I've-heard-this-50-times' Butt-Rock.

That's terrible.

[Corrian]

Some of my favorite songs are songs that mix multiple genre's together, but I have no idea of 'post-punk' or whatever and 'new wave', whatever the heck counts as new wave, really fit together at all.

This I believe was referred as new-wave, at least by my mom, who was saying she 'hated' the new wave shit. Honestly, I don't really care for these guys that much, but when apparently my dad, my sister, and I were bored watching their concert on some TV channel, even though I didn't care for them that much, I gave them credit for being somewhat 'different'. I'd rather 'different' over 'generic I've-heard-this-50-times' Butt-Rock.

That's terrible.

And honestly, that's like the best song of theirs I've heard.....which doesn't mean much. Though, I did accidentally run by a song of theirs that wasn't too bad, on some compilation album or whatever.

This is the main song of theirs I've heard, which I was introduced to thanks to the radio....it played a ton for a long time. I hate this song with a passion. This song of theirs isn't 'that' bad though (the one I randomly ran across), but it's the best at the start.

[The REAL Glasers]

1)Joy Division
2)Bauhaus
3)Gang of Four
4)Chameleons
5)The Sound

This isn't even going into New Wave or Post Punk Revival/New New Wave

but joy division were fantastically overrated

curtis was a rubbish vocalist and unknown pleasures was really hit or miss

infact revised list

1) Magazine
2) Talking Heads
3) The Stranglers
4) Breaking Circus
5) Television

niggayoujustwentfullretard.jpg

Seriously, Unknown Pleasures is a masterpiece. Closer was a little bit over the place, but still a great album. You've been doing Post-Punk wrong and it sounds like you haven't dug very deep if you don't know This Heat.

Anyway, any Post-Punk list that leaves out Jesus and Mary Chain is wrong.

[Corrian]

No list is wrong if it leaves out anything, because it just means that they like different post-punk bands then you. I could as easily say your post-punk list is wrong for including Jesus and Mary Chain, or your list was wrong in general. No music list is wrong. It's called varying opinions on music.

It's like when I see a list of movies and people add in the comments that "The list should have this particular movie", just because they like that movie. The same deal with music. It's sort of annoying. There are many many bands, and when you make only a list of 5 bands, it is hard to add all the great punk, or rock bands to that 5 band list. That doesn't mean the person doesn't absolutely love, say, Jesus and Mary Chain.

I bet you anything if I made a post-rock band list right now, one of you here would rip my opinion on post-rock bands to shreds, and say "This and that band should be a part of the list", and I bet you anything the bands you mention I would of either never of heard of, and will check them out, or I've heard of them and also love them quite a lot. But I don't feel the need to post a list just to get it torn to shreds, and I don't think I could name my top 5 favorite post-rock bands anyway.

[North Wiedna]

No list is wrong if it leaves out anything, because it just means that they like different post-punk bands then you. I could as easily say your post-punk list is wrong for including Jesus and Mary Chain, or your list was wrong in general. No music list is wrong. It's called varying opinions on music.

It's like when I see a list of movies and people add in the comments that "The list should have this particular movie", just because they like that movie. The same deal with music. It's sort of annoying. There are many many bands, and when you make only a list of 5 bands, it is hard to add all the great punk, or rock bands to that 5 band list. That doesn't mean the person doesn't absolutely love, say, Jesus and Mary Chain.

I bet you anything if I made a post-rock band list right now, one of you here would rip my opinion on post-rock bands to shreds, and say "This and that band should be a part of the list", and I bet you anything the bands you mention I would of either never of heard of, and will check them out, or I've heard of them and also love them quite a lot. But I don't feel the need to post a list just to get it torn to shreds, and I don't think I could name my top 5 favorite post-rock bands anyway.

Ever heard of hyperbole?

[Oterro]

niggayoujustwentfullretard.jpg

Seriously, Unknown Pleasures is a masterpiece.

Five. Good. Tracks.

Closer was a little bit over the place, but still a great album. You've been doing Post-Punk wrong and it sounds like you haven't dug very deep if you don't know This Heat.

Anyway, any Post-Punk list that leaves out Jesus and Mary Chain is wrong.

I know of them, Wied send me like one song I think and it was like

alright.

What TJaMC albums are you referring to? I've heard Psychocandy which is okay.

Whine whine whine? Really? This is terrible mischaracterization of anything Joy Division, I've doubt you've seriously listened to any of their albums.

i literally just told you i'd only heard UP lel

i'm lying i've never heard ian curtis sing i just hate him because he punched my dog ;_;

I've listened to Real Life, Secondhand Daylight, and The Correct Use of Soap however there's nothing there for me.

BAD TASTE!!!!

There's nothing really unique or "sinister" about his voice,

the rapiest man in the genre

he's not a terrible singer but there's not special about him either. Sure both Secondhand Daylight and The Correct Use of Soap are step ups from Real Life but there's nothing there that's special.

I never said he was technically proficient. He never extends his vocal range particularly much while singing but it's perfect for what's being played.

[The REAL Glasers]

niggayoujustwentfullretard.jpg

Seriously, Unknown Pleasures is a masterpiece.

Five. Good. Tracks.

Closer was a little bit over the place, but still a great album. You've been doing Post-Punk wrong and it sounds like you haven't dug very deep if you don't know This Heat.

Anyway, any Post-Punk list that leaves out Jesus and Mary Chain is wrong.

I know of them, Wied send me like one song I think and it was like

alright.

What TJaMC albums are you referring to? I've heard Psychocandy which is okay.

Only five? You must have listened to the wrong album.

Psychocandy is a fantastic Noise Pop/Post-Punk album, the rest lean more towards an Alt-Rock/Post Punk hybrid. Darklands and Honey's Dead are the best albums in their discog you haven't heard yet.

[Oterro]

Only five? You must have listened to the wrong album.

Yeah I could've been listening to a great album instead of something by Joy Division :v

with all due respects to Curtis, as I'm not in any way insinuating it was intentional, i am sort of leaning towards Joy Division's reverence and esteem being at least a little inflated by the leader of the band offing himself.

Psychocandy is a fantastic Noise Pop/Post-Punk album, the rest lean more towards an Alt-Rock/Post Punk hybrid. Darklands and Honey's Dead are the best albums in their discog you haven't heard yet.

PC is growing on me and I've been meaning to listen to Darklands, I've had it recc'd as their ~~~~true~~~~ magnum opus, but I was a little disappointed with Psychocandy, hence my hesistance in listening to it - even if it's a different genre...

[Der Landstreicher]

niggayoujustwentfullretard.jpg

Seriously, Unknown Pleasures is a masterpiece. Closer was a little bit over the place, but still a great album. You've been doing Post-Punk wrong and it sounds like you haven't dug very deep if you don't know This Heat.

Anyway, any Post-Punk list that leaves out Jesus and Mary Chain is wrong.

Jesus and Mary Chain is more noisepopish/shoegaze, no? If we're considering them post-punk than they should be on the list however.

This I believe was referred as new-wave, at least by my mom, who was saying she 'hated' the new wave shit

That there is synth-pop, which is heavily influenced by new wave.

Yeah I could've been listening to a great album instead of something by Joy Division :v

with all due respects to Curtis, as I'm not in any way insinuating it was intentional, i am sort of leaning towards Joy Division's reverence and esteem being at least a little inflated by the leader of the band offing himself.

There is some sort of Ian Curtis cult, but I suppose it's deserved. I have a preference for Peter Hook however, when he's actually playing the bass and not acting like a douche.

PC is growing on me and I've been meaning to listen to Darklands, I've had it recc'd as their ~~~~true~~~~ magnum opus, but I was a little disappointed with Psychocandy, hence my hesistance in listening to it - even if it's a different genre...

Darklands is fantastic, it's much better than Psychocandy in my opinion. Not that Psychocandy isn't good, but Darklands is much better.

[Corrian]

Ever heard of hyperbole?

Actually, no, not really. I think someone explained it once on something I was reading, but I forgot what it was. And that post....I wrote it late at night, so I might of been more of an ass then intended. Not that I still don't agree with my post...I really do find it annoying when people say other peoples lists are 'wrong', because that just doesn't make sense. Someone could like Justin Bieber, Lady Gaga, Kesha, Katy Perry, and Nicki Minaj as their top 5 artists, and I wouldn't say their list was 'wrong' despite the fact I'd probably shoot myself if they played those around me for hours. It's just a different opinion on music is all.

Anyway, I think I will make a post-rock list if I can actually figure out what ones to choose as favorites.
1:Sigur Ros. I don't give a crap what your opinions on Sigur Ros are, they are my favorite post-rock band, and I think they are one of the more original post-rock bands I've heard, and that's not just because they are literally the first post-rock band I've heard (Though I've heard them described as art rock and ambient, as well)
2.Uh, a toss-up between pg.lost and The Evpatoria Report
3.Same deal as above.
4.sleepmakeswaves
5.I really have no freaking clue. There's too many good ones to have a top 5 really

[Oterro]

1) Speed God Emperor You Black!
2) Mogwhy
3) World's End Girlfriend
4) BOat (so far anyway lel)
5) Tortoise

[Libaries]

Completely Random Thought:

I think you can like country and also like pop. My friends don't.