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Postby Thisbia » Sun Dec 16, 2012 3:12 pm

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The REAL Glasers wrote:Barrett had a touch for psychedelia and atmosphere that none of the other primary songwriters in that band had. Piper is up there with any other Pink Floyd album.

weird how nothing he ever made had atmosphere approaching DSotM, WYWH or Animals then isn't it.

He got the record deal didn't he? That's the main miracle. He also had to leave because of health issues. You might want to check production notes as the producer more often than not has more to do with the success of an album than the musicians themselves.
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Postby The REAL Glasers » Sun Dec 16, 2012 3:27 pm

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The REAL Glasers wrote:Barrett had a touch for psychedelia and atmosphere that none of the other primary songwriters in that band had. Piper is up there with any other Pink Floyd album.

weird how nothing he ever made had atmosphere approaching DSotM, WYWH or Animals then isn't it.


>implying that those were intended to be atmospheric/psychedelic and not Prog-lite.
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Postby Oterro » Sun Dec 16, 2012 3:43 pm

The REAL Glasers wrote:>implying that those were intended to be atmospheric/psychedelic and not Prog-lite.

intention is irrelevant as while being sonically and emotionally superior (though PF aren't overly emotional) they're definitely more effective in their atmosphere.

they're a bit of a sacred cow but they're definitely a great band and deriding them as ''prog lite'' is just try hard
Thisbia wrote:He got the record deal didn't he? That's the main miracle. He also had to leave because of health issues. You might want to check production notes as the producer more often than not has more to do with the success of an album than the musicians themselves.
why would i give a rat's ass about how successful they were
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Postby The REAL Glasers » Sun Dec 16, 2012 3:45 pm

I've never seen PF as a band that has a tremendous amount in common with Prog, particularly their contemporaries.
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Postby Oterro » Sun Dec 16, 2012 3:46 pm

The REAL Glasers wrote:I've never seen PF as a band that has a tremendous amount in common with Prog, particularly their contemporaries.

prog is pretty eclectic though innit
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Postby The REAL Glasers » Sun Dec 16, 2012 3:51 pm

True, but PF has always sounded like a Space/Psych Rock band with some Prog leanings more than anything else.
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Postby Ceavetjavri » Sun Dec 16, 2012 3:53 pm

I'm going to say Bohemian Rhapsody, by Queen. I say this because of the technicality of the song. Also, coming from somebody who mixes music, the job of mixing the tracks in Bohemian Rhapsody is one that I do not envy. Also, I love the song.

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Postby The REAL Glasers » Sun Dec 16, 2012 3:54 pm

That song isn't technical at all. Maybe from a vocal standpoint, but Freddy's technique was shit anyways.
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Postby Pufafikanu » Sun Dec 16, 2012 3:55 pm

The answer is obvious.

Ballade no. 4 by Chopin.

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Postby Unipax » Sun Dec 16, 2012 3:56 pm

"I Will Always Love You" by Whitney Houston

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Postby The Zeonic States » Sun Dec 16, 2012 3:56 pm

Nothing by Nirvana certainly
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Postby Cocsoah » Sun Dec 16, 2012 3:59 pm

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Cocsoah wrote:Because Queen is awesome :)

maybe

but if none of their songs spring to mind as THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME are you making a good decision!>?!>!?!?!!?

I guess you are right, maybe something by Michael Jackson? Bad, Beat It, Billy Jean, Thriller... Those come to mind as Greatest of All Time.
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Postby Thisbia » Sun Dec 16, 2012 4:09 pm

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The REAL Glasers wrote:>implying that those were intended to be atmospheric/psychedelic and not Prog-lite.

intention is irrelevant as while being sonically and emotionally superior (though PF aren't overly emotional) they're definitely more effective in their atmosphere.

they're a bit of a sacred cow but they're definitely a great band and deriding them as ''prog lite'' is just try hard
Thisbia wrote:He got the record deal didn't he? That's the main miracle. He also had to leave because of health issues. You might want to check production notes as the producer more often than not has more to do with the success of an album than the musicians themselves.
why would i give a rat's ass about how successful they were

True. Barret was extremely influential even to the later Floyd, but you are right, it isn't the same feel, but once you lose a member the chemistry always changes. Unless you are AC/DC. Syd Floyd sound a lot more artistic and a lot less catchy. It is certainly an acquired taste.
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Postby Thisbia » Sun Dec 16, 2012 4:10 pm

The REAL Glasers wrote:That song isn't technical at all. Maybe from a vocal standpoint, but Freddy's technique was shit anyways.

?????????????? Please, please enlighten me. HOW was Freddy's technique and why?
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Postby Oterro » Sun Dec 16, 2012 4:14 pm

The REAL Glasers wrote:True, but PF has always sounded like a Space/Psych Rock band with some Prog leanings more than anything else.

on their early stuff sure but when someone says to me ''pink floyd'' i think DSotM/WYWH/Animals. probably because those are my favourites.

i guess there's still some ''spacey'' elements but that's not why i listen to them.
Cocsoah wrote:I guess you are right, maybe something by Michael Jackson? Bad, Beat It, Billy Jean, Thriller... Those come to mind as Greatest of All Time.

Smooth Criminal is my favourite Michael Jackson song
Thisbia wrote:True. Barret was extremely influential even to the later Floyd, but you are right, it isn't the same feel, but once you lose a member the chemistry always changes. Unless you are AC/DC. Syd Floyd sound a lot more artistic and a lot less catchy. It is certainly an acquired taste.

I disagree actually, I don't think Johnson can hold a candle to Scott and their music sucked after his death.
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Postby The REAL Glasers » Sun Dec 16, 2012 4:28 pm

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The REAL Glasers wrote:That song isn't technical at all. Maybe from a vocal standpoint, but Freddy's technique was shit anyways.

?????????????? Please, please enlighten me. HOW was Freddy's technique and why?


Sounded good, had shit technique. He blew his voice out when he was very young because he had to strain to hit the high notes.
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Postby Thisbia » Sun Dec 16, 2012 5:46 pm

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Thisbia wrote:?????????????? Please, please enlighten me. HOW was Freddy's technique and why?


Sounded good, had shit technique. He blew his voice out when he was very young because he had to strain to hit the high notes.

OK, you actually enlightened me. Although I cant find any real documentation, (I'm sure you could help with that ) it seems he did. Stevie Nicks hurt her voice to by singing wrong and boy can you hear the difference on Buckingham-Nicks. So who do you think has the best vocals live, technique and all?
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Postby Anollasia » Sun Dec 16, 2012 7:33 pm

Thisbia wrote:
The REAL Glasers wrote:That song isn't technical at all. Maybe from a vocal standpoint, but Freddy's technique was shit anyways.

?????????????? Please, please enlighten me. HOW was Freddy's technique and why?

It's Freddie. Not Freddy.

And not everone can come up with a song like that.

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Postby Phocidaea » Sun Dec 16, 2012 7:39 pm

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Alcia wrote:Any thing by Pink Floyd

ummagumma is a fucking horrible album


Ummagumma barely qualifies as music.

Their best album was Wish You Were Here, IMO, of which the title track (and SoYCD) could easily qualify for this thread.
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Postby Meryuma » Sun Dec 16, 2012 11:34 pm

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The REAL Glasers wrote:>2012
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>not syd barrett master race

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barrett era floyd is absolutely terrible and i'm convinced everyone who actually proclaims its superiority is just trying to seem cool


I really like Piper, it's an 8/10 or so. I wouldn't say it's their best, let alone that they sucked after Syd left (which apparently Michael Gira thinks).
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Postby Oterro » Mon Dec 17, 2012 1:10 am

Phocidaea wrote:Ummagumma barely qualifies as music.

Their best album was Wish You Were Here, IMO, of which the title track (and SoYCD) could easily qualify for this thread.

my favourite on WYWH is Have a Cigar tbh
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Postby --argh let go of my throat » Tue Dec 18, 2012 3:23 pm

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Thisbia wrote:?????????????? Please, please enlighten me. HOW was Freddy's technique and why?


Sounded good, had shit technique. He blew his voice out when he was very young because he had to strain to hit the high notes.


You...you...
Are completely incorrect in every possible way. Freddie didn't have to strain to hit the high notes, his singing ability got BETTER over time if ANYTHING, and the ONLY way he could've gotten worse later on is by the fact that he contracted AIDS and then contracted Pneumonia, causing his pre-mature death. He had amazing technique! And to be completely honest, many of the highest background vocals in Queen songs were sung by Roger Taylor, who was a pretty darn good vocalist in his own right.
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Postby Thisbia » Tue Dec 18, 2012 7:57 pm

--argh let go of my throat wrote:
The REAL Glasers wrote:
Sounded good, had shit technique. He blew his voice out when he was very young because he had to strain to hit the high notes.


You...you...
Are completely incorrect in every possible way. Freddie didn't have to strain to hit the high notes, his singing ability got BETTER over time if ANYTHING, and the ONLY way he could've gotten worse later on is by the fact that he contracted AIDS and then contracted Pneumonia, causing his pre-mature death. He had amazing technique! And to be completely honest, many of the highest background vocals in Queen songs were sung by Roger Taylor, who was a pretty darn good vocalist in his own right.

Yeah, so he didn't enlighten me anyway. I knew there was no documentation. Besides, nobody, not Plant, Elton, Lambert, anybody can do Freddie any justice.
But who has a song that can beat Hotel California?
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Postby The REAL Glasers » Wed Dec 19, 2012 5:20 pm

--argh let go of my throat wrote:
The REAL Glasers wrote:
Sounded good, had shit technique. He blew his voice out when he was very young because he had to strain to hit the high notes.


You...you...
Are completely incorrect in every possible way. Freddie didn't have to strain to hit the high notes, his singing ability got BETTER over time if ANYTHING, and the ONLY way he could've gotten worse later on is by the fact that he contracted AIDS and then contracted Pneumonia, causing his pre-mature death. He had amazing technique! And to be completely honest, many of the highest background vocals in Queen songs were sung by Roger Taylor, who was a pretty darn good vocalist in his own right.


Let's just completely ignore the years when Freddy's voice was blown out then. He raises his head very high on a lot of high notes and you can see his neck strain, that's shitty technique that closes your throat and puts MORE pressure on the vocal chords.
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