Metal Genre Music Discussion

[The New Sea Territory]

I saw glimpses of a pit in the first one.

I was too busy gouging my eyes and ear canals out.

"Flail around". Correction: it's a combination of ground pounding, skanking, karate kicks and headbanging.

....really don't see how hardcore punk with a few metal riffs (metalcore or metallic hardcore) is that disgusting. What is disgusting, on the other hand, is that Amon Amarth fans act like they're such a heavy band, but the truth is they aren't even soft in comparison to other death metal and grindcore.

[Rob Halfordia]

I was too busy gouging my eyes and ear canals out.

"Flail around". Correction: it's a combination of ground pounding, skanking, karate kicks and headbanging.

....really don't see how hardcore punk with a few metal riffs (metalcore or metallic hardcore) is that disgusting. What is disgusting, on the other hand, is that Amon Amarth fans act like their such a heavy band, but the truth is they aren't even soft in comparison to other death metal and grindcore.

Imnot acting like they're heavy. I only care about how good they are. Grindcore is heavier than Melodic/Progressive Death Metal, but nowhere near as good.

[The New Sea Territory]

"Flail around". Correction: it's a combination of ground pounding, skanking, karate kicks and headbanging.

....really don't see how hardcore punk with a few metal riffs (metalcore or metallic hardcore) is that disgusting. What is disgusting, on the other hand, is that Amon Amarth fans act like their such a heavy band, but the truth is they aren't even soft in comparison to other death metal and grindcore.

Imnot acting like they're heavy. I only care about how good they are. Grindcore is heavier than Melodic/Progressive Death Metal, but nowhere near as good.

How good Amon Amarth is....For melodeath, I prefer At The Gates.

Melodic Death Metal is a beyond overrated genre. It's not bad. I like it, but it's generally overrun with bands who don't really innovate and just repeat the same sound they've always heard, similar to metalcore. (which, ironically, came from Carcass....a grindcore band that pioneered the genre). Melodeath is not a particularly fast genre, nor is it very technically demanding. It's vocals aren't exactly superb or powerful either.

Grindcore, on the other hand, requires an immense amount of talent to play that fucking fast (providing drum machines aren't used) or produce some of those vocal sounds. For example, Discordance Axis has one of the highest pitched screams around,Rotten Sound and Nasum put the rest of Scandinavian metal to shame, Aborted blends death metal and grindcore beautifully and Extreme Noise Terror is insane. Period. It's extremism is what makes it good, because the bands don't sound the same, they sound excessively violent. Melodeath ends up with too many similar sounding bands or really empty lyrics (AA for example just rips a Norse myth out and recites it), where grindcore has politically charged lyrics by artists who actually believe what they scream.

To be honest, many of the your criticisms of metalcore apply to melodeath, besides the fans. I will admit that metalcore fans are annoying.

[Edward Richtofen]

Imnot acting like they're heavy. I only care about how good they are. Grindcore is heavier than Melodic/Progressive Death Metal, but nowhere near as good.

How good Amon Amarth is....For melodeath, I prefer At The Gates.

Melodic Death Metal is a beyond overrated genre. It's not bad. I like it, but it's generally overrun with bands who don't really innovate and just repeat the same sound they've always heard, similar to metalcore. (which, ironically, came from Carcass....a grindcore band that pioneered the genre). Melodeath is not a particularly fast genre, nor is it very technically demanding. It's vocals aren't exactly superb or powerful either.

Grindcore, on the other hand, requires an immense amount of talent to play that fucking fast (providing drum machines aren't used) or produce some of those vocal sounds. For example, Discordance Axis has one of the highest pitched screams around,Rotten Sound and Nasum put the rest of Scandinavian metal to shame, Aborted blends death metal and grindcore beautifully and Extreme Noise Terror is insane. Period. It's extremism is what makes it good, because the bands don't sound the same, they sound excessively violent. Melodeath ends up with too many similar sounding bands or really empty lyrics (AA for example just rips a Norse myth out and recites it), where grindcore has politically charged lyrics by artists who actually believe what they scream.

To be honest, many of the your criticisms of metalcore apply to melodeath, besides the fans. I will admit that metalcore fans are annoying.

Melodeath is the Iron Maiden of Death Metal
Iron Maiden=Wow awesome innovation!
followers of iron maiden= yeah no

[Soviet Haaregrad]

Grindcore is heavier than Melodic/Progressive Death Metal, but nowhere near as good.

That's just like your opinion man.

Personally I find melodeath and progdeath boring as fuck, whereas I could listen to Insect Warfare all day and never get bored.

[NeuPolska]

So am I not allowed to like norse legends being retold in death metal form?

[Soviet Haaregrad]

I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the moshing and the riffs.

Bitch, please.

Integrity > Amon Amarth

One is a groundbreaking band that helped define an entire genre. The other is derivative as shit, but has lyrics about vikings which makes them more interesting than 95% of the bands they sound exactly the same as.

[Edward Richtofen]

So am I not allowed to like norse legends being retold in death metal form?

we're allowed to listen to Rammstein so why the hell not?

[Revanchism]

So am I not allowed to like norse legends being retold in death metal form?

Better yet.

[Cadonica]

Imnot acting like they're heavy. I only care about how good they are. Grindcore is heavier than Melodic/Progressive Death Metal, but nowhere near as good.

How good Amon Amarth is....For melodeath, I prefer At The Gates.

Melodic Death Metal is a beyond overrated genre. It's not bad. I like it, but it's generally overrun with bands who don't really innovate and just repeat the same sound they've always heard, similar to metalcore. (which, ironically, came from Carcass....a grindcore band that pioneered the genre). Melodeath is not a particularly fast genre, nor is it very technically demanding. It's vocals aren't exactly superb or powerful either.

Grindcore, on the other hand, requires an immense amount of talent to play that fucking fast (providing drum machines aren't used) or produce some of those vocal sounds. For example, Discordance Axis has one of the highest pitched screams around,Rotten Sound and Nasum put the rest of Scandinavian metal to shame, Aborted blends death metal and grindcore beautifully and Extreme Noise Terror is insane. Period. It's extremism is what makes it good, because the bands don't sound the same, they sound excessively violent. Melodeath ends up with too many similar sounding bands or really empty lyrics (AA for example just rips a Norse myth out and recites it), where grindcore has politically charged lyrics by artists who actually believe what they scream.

To be honest, many of the your criticisms of metalcore apply to melodeath, besides the fans. I will admit that metalcore fans are annoying.

Just because grindcore requires fuckton of talent doesn't mean it's superior to melodeath. Rotten Sound an Nasum are awsome but "put other scandinavian metal to shame"? Yeah, no. And the other bands mentioned, Discordance Axis sounded rather boring, Aborted sounded like any other deathgrind band I've heard and ENT isn't that insane. I highly prefer Napalm Death, Terrorizer, Anal Cunt, Repulsion and goregrind bands like Torsofuck and the like.

EDIT: Forgot Excrementory Grindfuckers, because screw being serious all the time

[Cadonica]

So am I not allowed to like norse legends being retold in death metal form?

You are allowed to like what the hell ever you wan in any form you want to.

[Soviet Haaregrad]

While we're talking about grindcore... Magrudergrind, great or greatest grindcore band ever?

[Cadonica]

While we're talking about grindcore... Magrudergrind, great or greatest grindcore band ever?

Never heard.

[Soviet Haaregrad]

While we're talking about grindcore... Magrudergrind, great or greatest grindcore band ever?

Never heard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6txJtquCHw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oI3A9BLx0w

[Cadonica]

Never heard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6txJtquCHw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oI3A9BLx0w

Nope.

Good at best.

[Cosumar]

Am I the only one here who loves both Amon Amarth AND Integrity? Or the only one who likes melo/prog death AND grindcore?

It's ridiculous reading y'all go back and forth with "x is obviously better than y" & "no silly, y is wayyy better than x". The people bashing Amon Amarth sound almost as ignorant as whoever was insulting metalcore.

Neither is inherently superior to the other, it's a matter of taste. Both have their merits to my ears. And you can like both.

[Volmachtia]

Am I the only one here who loves both Amon Amarth AND Integrity? Or the only one who likes melo/prog death AND grindcore?

It's ridiculous reading y'all go back and forth with "x is obviously better than y" & "no silly, y is wayyy better than x". The people bashing Amon Amarth sound almost as ignorant as whoever was insulting metalcore.

Neither is inherently superior to the other, it's a matter of taste. Both have their merits to my ears. And you can like both.

I just like good metal

[Cadonica]

Am I the only one here who loves both Amon Amarth AND Integrity? Or the only one who likes melo/prog death AND grindcore?

It's ridiculous reading y'all go back and forth with "x is obviously better than y" & "no silly, y is wayyy better than x". The people bashing Amon Amarth sound almost as ignorant as whoever was insulting metalcore.

Neither is inherently superior to the other, it's a matter of taste. Both have their merits to my ears. And you can like both.

Obvious thing that everyone likes to forget.

[Cadonica]

Am I the only one here who loves both Amon Amarth AND Integrity? Or the only one who likes melo/prog death AND grindcore?

It's ridiculous reading y'all go back and forth with "x is obviously better than y" & "no silly, y is wayyy better than x". The people bashing Amon Amarth sound almost as ignorant as whoever was insulting metalcore.

Neither is inherently superior to the other, it's a matter of taste. Both have their merits to my ears. And you can like both.

I just like good metal

It's not good and you can't like it if I don't like it! >:C

[Volmachtia]

I just like good metal

It's not good and you can't like it if I don't like it! >:C

[Cadonica]

It's not good and you can't like it if I don't like it! >:C

[Edward Richtofen]

6 albums on my too listen list god I'm lazy as fuck

2 symphonic black
1 black
1 punk
1 gothic
1 thrash

[Corrian]

Electronic metal?

[Rob Halfordia]

Electronic metal?

You're doing it wrong

[Soviet Haaregrad]

Electronic metal?

You're doing it wrong

Needs moar Dataclast.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZVceSIv3co
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDOqg1ZQOB0

And some The Berzerker
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1x4cQnDufOc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_476jL2FWpY