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[Tagmatium]

Well I give up on German tanks, I am an up close brawler, I am not meant to drive slow German tanks with weak but accurate guns and no sloping

Presumably you're more into the heavy Russian fuckers?

[The Anglo-Saxon Empire]

Well I give up on German tanks, I am an up close brawler, I am not meant to drive slow German tanks with weak but accurate guns and no sloping

Presumably you're more into the heavy Russian fuckers?

I guess. I love the Russian light tanks, fast, fast firing, and forcing you to get in close. Armour is for cowards, accuracy is for people too scared to ram people. All I need is speed and a fast gun, my courage will protect me and my tenacity will slay my foes.

[Tagmatium]

I guess. I love the Russian light tanks, fast, fast firing, and forcing you to get in close. Armour is for cowards, accuracy is for people too scared to ram people. All I need is speed and a fast gun, my courage will protect me and my tenacity will slay my foes.

Whilst I don't agree with the ethos, I admire the spirit.

You a T-50/T-50-2 player?

Seems like the sort of thing which would be up your alley from those comments.

I got my first ram-kill today against a T-50 in my T-25.

[The Anglo-Saxon Empire]

I guess. I love the Russian light tanks, fast, fast firing, and forcing you to get in close. Armour is for cowards, accuracy is for people too scared to ram people. All I need is speed and a fast gun, my courage will protect me and my tenacity will slay my foes.

Whilst I don't agree with the ethos, I admire the spirit.

You a T-50/T-50-2 player?

Seems like the sort of thing which would be up your alley from those comments.

I got my first ram-kill today against a T-50 in my T-25.

Just got an A-20 before I was going down the panzer line about 20k experience from Tiger I.

[Tagmatium]

Whilst I don't agree with the ethos, I admire the spirit.

You a T-50/T-50-2 player?

Seems like the sort of thing which would be up your alley from those comments.

I got my first ram-kill today against a T-50 in my T-25.

Just got an A-20 before I was going down the panzer line about 20k experience from Tiger I.

I suspect you'll like the T-50 and its sequel, then.

A pack of three T-50s played havoc amongst our lines in a game I just played. Fucking lethal.

[Segmentia]

My first ram 'kill' was actually when an enemy rammed me and we both blew up. It was actually quite funny.

[The Anglo-Saxon Empire]

Just got an A-20 before I was going down the panzer line about 20k experience from Tiger I.

I suspect you'll like the T-50 and its sequel, then.

A pack of three T-50s played havoc amongst our lines in a game I just played. Fucking lethal.

Light tanks are really fun if played correctly, it is great dominating another team simply by rushing past their lines. Their tanks turn to engage you just in time for you to slip away and your mediums to shoot them from behind. The light tanks that survive rush the base, kill the arty and hopefully capture the base, giving each light tank a couple of kills.

Also, since I need to say it. If you die you were obviously not brave enough. If you are brave enough you will start to repel and randomly bounce shots. How else can light tanks infiltrate past a horde of medium and heavy tanks and not die?

[Tagmatium]

Light tanks are really fun if played correctly, it is great dominating another team simply by rushing past their lines. Their tanks turn to engage you just in time for you to slip away and your mediums to shoot them from behind. The light tanks that survive rush the base, kill the arty and hopefully capture the base, giving each light tank a couple of kills.

Also, since I need to say it. If you die you were obviously not brave enough. If you are brave enough you will start to repel and randomly bounce shots. How else can light tanks infiltrate past a horde of medium and heavy tanks and not die?

It's a damned shame that the lights on my team never seem to be living up to your standard, then.

By and large, I suspect that lights live not by beginning to deflect shots due to their bravery, but the enemy being confused and not as careful as they ought to be. Plus, it can be damned hard to keep your sights on an enemy light when your turret is so damned slow that you've got to turn your tank as well as your turret...

[The Anglo-Saxon Empire]

My first ram 'kill' was actually when an enemy rammed me and we both blew up. It was actually quite funny.

That happens to me like half the time. Except they don't die since they are much bigger and I am already damaged.

Also I randomly decided to have an all black crew for my M2. Don't know why, but the entire crew is black. Sounds like the basis for a crappy, somewhat racist comedy movie.

Edit: Da fuck? All the black guys have strange names. My commander is Sergeant Shortus, my driver is Corporal Major, and my is PFC Petty. I really like the commander's name, Sergeant Shortus has a nice ring to it.

[Moriskov]

I suspect you'll like the T-50 and its sequel, then.

A pack of three T-50s played havoc amongst our lines in a game I just played. Fucking lethal.

Light tanks are really fun if played correctly, it is great dominating another team simply by rushing past their lines. Their tanks turn to engage you just in time for you to slip away and your mediums to shoot them from behind. The light tanks that survive rush the base, kill the arty and hopefully capture the base, giving each light tank a couple of kills.

Also, since I need to say it. If you die you were obviously not brave enough. If you are brave enough you will start to repel and randomly bounce shots. How else can light tanks infiltrate past a horde of medium and heavy tanks and not die?

Aye. I use to do try and sneak around the back with my BT-5 (It is BT-5 and BT-7 right? Haven't played this game for a loong time) I'd tryed rushing though the front but I swear my armor was a magnet for bullets. Although during one of the earlier tests, I had a T-34-85 with a 100mm main gun, and I rushed through their left flank and ripped about 8 mediums apart. That was my best game ever. I actually stopped playing for awhile after that test ended. I wanted to keep my IS-2 and my T-34s so bad.

[The Anglo-Saxon Empire]

Light tanks are really fun if played correctly, it is great dominating another team simply by rushing past their lines. Their tanks turn to engage you just in time for you to slip away and your mediums to shoot them from behind. The light tanks that survive rush the base, kill the arty and hopefully capture the base, giving each light tank a couple of kills.

Also, since I need to say it. If you die you were obviously not brave enough. If you are brave enough you will start to repel and randomly bounce shots. How else can light tanks infiltrate past a horde of medium and heavy tanks and not die?

It's a damned shame that the lights on my team never seem to be living up to your standard, then.

By and large, I suspect that lights live not by beginning to deflect shots due to their bravery, but the enemy being confused and not as careful as they ought to be. Plus, it can be damned hard to keep your sights on an enemy light when your turret is so damned slow that you've got to turn your tank as well as your turret...

Oh yeah, when I was stuck with my tier III and IV German lights it was hell, eventually the lack of armour starts to take its toll and some other light tankers become cynical and unwilling to charge. Still, when I can find a few good lights on my side we can humiliate the heavy tanks and teach the arty just what happens when you sit in the back like a coward.

[Tagmatium]

Oh yeah, when I was stuck with my tier III and IV German lights it was hell, eventually the lack of armour starts to take its toll and some other light tankers become cynical and unwilling to charge. Still, when I can find a few good lights on my side we can humiliate the heavy tanks and teach the arty just what happens when you sit in the back like a coward.

More often than not, my major criticism of lights is that they are too willing to charge off too blindly and incautiously. They bomb it off towards the enemy lines, spot a handful of vehicles before getting blown up.

In an ideal world, they'd either sit somewhere, all camo'd up, and actually do some spotting or intelligently charge forward. Usually, it's a one way trip to heaven for them, before the artillery's had a chance to load or even move into a decent firing position. Which isn't brilliant for the rest of us, even though it might bag them some experience.

[Morrdh]

Oh yeah, when I was stuck with my tier III and IV German lights it was hell, eventually the lack of armour starts to take its toll and some other light tankers become cynical and unwilling to charge. Still, when I can find a few good lights on my side we can humiliate the heavy tanks and teach the arty just what happens when you sit in the back like a coward.

More often than not, my major criticism of lights is that they are too willing to charge off too blindly and incautiously. They bomb it off towards the enemy lines, spot a handful of vehicles before getting blown up.

In an ideal world, they'd either sit somewhere, all camo'd up, and actually do some spotting or intelligently charge forward. Usually, it's a one way trip to heaven for them, before the artillery's had a chance to load or even move into a decent firing position. Which isn't brilliant for the rest of us, even though it might bag them some experience.

I'll bear that in mind, planning on messing around with the Soviet lights once I've gotten the upgraded gun for the Slugger.

[Tagmatium]

I'll bear that in mind, planning on messing around with the Soviet lights once I've gotten the upgraded gun for the Slugger.

It's just a case of coordination.

Make sure that arty knows what you're doing and is ready.

Use cover well. I don't use lights myself, but my housemates who play WoT do. One of them is always saying that the binocular telescope is really good, especially combined with the camo netting. You can just sit, hidden away, spotting enemy tanks and having them blown away by friendly arty.

Also I randomly decided to have an all black crew for my M2. Don't know why, but the entire crew is black. Sounds like the basis for a crappy, somewhat racist comedy movie.

Insofar as I was aware, the US operated segregated units, so it's actually historically accurate.

[The Anglo-Saxon Empire]

Oh yeah, when I was stuck with my tier III and IV German lights it was hell, eventually the lack of armour starts to take its toll and some other light tankers become cynical and unwilling to charge. Still, when I can find a few good lights on my side we can humiliate the heavy tanks and teach the arty just what happens when you sit in the back like a coward.

More often than not, my major criticism of lights is that they are too willing to charge off too blindly and incautiously. They bomb it off towards the enemy lines, spot a handful of vehicles before getting blown up.

In an ideal world, they'd either sit somewhere, all camo'd up, and actually do some spotting or intelligently charge forward. Usually, it's a one way trip to heaven for them, before the artillery's had a chance to load or even move into a decent firing position. Which isn't brilliant for the rest of us, even though it might bag them some experience.

It is frequently the only way for tier IV lights to get experience. They can't dent anyone, they have paper armour and scouting gives almost no experience. The easiest way to make lights actually act like lights is to simply make scouting worth more experience, and make it so that you get counted as scouting a tank as soon as it disappears from sight. So if one guy spots a tank, he dies or whatever and the tank leaves his view, and then another guy spots the same tank later they would both get XP. Then lights would have motivation to spend time scouting and to sit around a little so that they can relocate enemy tanks that are lost and gain more XP.

[Brickistan]

So, I'm just now joining WoT as we speak; I can't fill the form out yet... Any tips/suggestions/etcetera?

EDIT: Ok, I've taken a long, hard look at the tech trees, and I'm thinking about upgrading to PzKpfw 35(t), then the 38(t), and then the Pz.38NA. From there on out, should I go for the Hetzer, or the Panzer IV? I think I'll do Panzer IV, because it leaves my options open.

So you’re a glutton for punishment then?

The sad fact is that nearly all game mechanics in this game favours the Russian tanks. The Germans fire relatively fast and with a good accuracy, but what’s the point when they can’t penetrate a wet paper-towel?

I do NOT plan to spend my money on artillery, nor do I want to invest in light tanks with weak guns; when I shoot someone, I'd like to kill them the first time, you know? One shot, one kill- the sniper's credo. I'll likely play ambush predator a lot as well, yet another role that requires a heavy main gun.

I hate to spoil your dreams, but you won’t be one-shotting anyone for a very long time.

There are a few low-tier tanks that can do the trick – the Russian KV-2, for example. But other than that, you’re looking at something like tier seven and above before you can start reliably one-shotting anything. And then only the poor tier four scout dragged into the match.

On the other hand, you’ll be one-shotted a lot by tanks three or four tiers above you...

How fast do you get cash, though?

Very slowly...

The cost of tanks rises very quickly and you’ll be looking at millions around tier six or seven. Add to that the fact that tier seven and above are actually not supposed to make much, if any, credits form a fight...

Most people use a “cash-cow”. Some favour the KV-2, some the Löwe (if you can stomach the real-life cost). And I’ve heard that the American tank destroyers perform quite well around tier five, cash-wise. But if you want to get anywhere in this game, you’d better be prepared to shell out real-life money and spend an awful long time grinding in your cash-cow.

More often than not, my major criticism of lights is that they are too willing to charge off too blindly and incautiously. They bomb it off towards the enemy lines, spot a handful of vehicles before getting blown up.

In an ideal world, they'd either sit somewhere, all camo'd up, and actually do some spotting or intelligently charge forward. Usually, it's a one way trip to heaven for them, before the artillery's had a chance to load or even move into a decent firing position. Which isn't brilliant for the rest of us, even though it might bag them some experience.

The sad fact is that suicide-scouting is just about the most effective way of getting XP and money. How am I supposed to “scout” when my targets have much better view-range than me?

The best games I’ve had are where I’ve managed to detect ten or more enemies, usually because the opposing team consisted of a lot of slow heavies that had barely gotten going before I came screaming into their base. Lots of credit and XP for a few minutes work...
I’ve seen screenshot of people claiming to do well by hiding and providing line-of-sight. But when I try that I mostly just get blown up by an approaching heavy that I didn’t even see before he one-shotted me...

It must be said though, that one of the things I fear most is to see a platoon containing a light and one or two artillery pieces. That usually means that the scout is talking directly with the arty-boyz and can call in a barrage at any time. Stand still at your own risk...

[Saphirasia]

BTW, the wiki is down due to them doing editing on it. Adding new articles, etc.

As for the Porsche Tiger, there's a reason I have it on my wishlist. Frontal armor is epix. It even bounces IS-7 and E-100 shots.
How do I know this?
Drool all you want.

[Drackonisa]

BTW, the wiki is down due to them doing editing on it. Adding new articles, etc.

As for the Porsche Tiger, there's a reason I have it on my wishlist. Frontal armor is epix. It even bounces IS-7 and E-100 shots.
How do I know this?
Drool all you want.

really now? Never bounced off it on my lowe or e100.

O.o

[Tagmatium]

BTW, the wiki is down due to them doing editing on it. Adding new articles, etc.

As for the Porsche Tiger, there's a reason I have it on my wishlist. Frontal armor is epix. It even bounces IS-7 and E-100 shots.
How do I know this?
Drool all you want.

really now? Never bounced off it on my lowe or e100.

O.o

Don't spoil it for me

And now I've got it.

[Morrdh]

Had a thought regarding the British tree, would they do the Deacon?

[Saphirasia]

BTW, the wiki is down due to them doing editing on it. Adding new articles, etc.

As for the Porsche Tiger, there's a reason I have it on my wishlist. Frontal armor is epix. It even bounces IS-7 and E-100 shots.
How do I know this?
Drool all you want.

really now? Never bounced off it on my lowe or e100.

O.o

Then I guess the Tier 10 drivers just fail.
Speaking of which, I was in a battle at Mountain Pass, whit a T30 capping the base. I proceeded to come up from behind and start blasting his hull.
Took almost an entire minute of non-stop firing to kill it, but none of his shots penetrated.
That was good for lulz from the people watching the duel.

[Transnapastain]

God, I haven't touched this game in forever....

How is the new patch?

[Saphirasia]

God, I haven't touched this game in forever....

How is the new patch?

Pretty good. New armor setups, which is good for my M4. Lots of lulz ensue when I go hull-down, because even if they manage to hit the top of my turret, it does no damage, or deflects off my mantlet.

[Sane Outcasts]

God, I haven't touched this game in forever....

How is the new patch?

The performance changes worked in my favor and nothing seems to be unbalanced besides the matches I keep getting, but that's how it worked before the patch.

I do like the visible tracers the most, particularly in my Grille. The eye-in-the-sky artillery view let's you see where shots are coming from and anyone that's played an SPG enough time in a map will know where to watch for enemy artillery to hide (or TD's, if you get lucky enough). I've managed a few blind kills purely off watching the tracer trails, though it takes a few shots to kill sometimes.

[Mad hatters in jeans]

God, I haven't touched this game in forever....

How is the new patch?

The performance changes worked in my favor and nothing seems to be unbalanced besides the matches I keep getting, but that's how it worked before the patch.

I do like the visible tracers the most, particularly in my Grille. The eye-in-the-sky artillery view let's you see where shots are coming from and anyone that's played an SPG enough time in a map will know where to watch for enemy artillery to hide (or TD's, if you get lucky enough). I've managed a few blind kills purely off watching the tracer trails, though it takes a few shots to kill sometimes.

yay tracers are back