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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:01 am

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The Huskar Social Union wrote:Ive heard some talk lately about FW moving over to plastic production instead of Resin so maybe this is the start of that?


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Speaking of: Valrak talks plastic krieg.

Would be interesting to see them make plastic Krieg soldiers as a kill team. I wonder what the reaction would be to that lol
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Postby Ameriganastan » Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:16 am

As I'm not an expert on such things, why is plastic better than resin?
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:35 am

Ameriganastan wrote:As I'm not an expert on such things, why is plastic better than resin?

Resin is softer and more brittle and thus more easy to break. I also think its more susceptible to things like warping as a result compared to Plastic.

Resin miniatures and pieces also need to be washed a lot of the time as they can be covered in a release agent that is a by-product of the making process and if you dont wash it off it can effect any paint you apply and cause it to flake off or not settle right.

Resin can typically have a lot more detail though from what ive seen compared to plastic which is why some people like to get Resin stuff. Also you need Super glue for Resin.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:37 am

I personally just find it to be very awkward to work with at times compared to plastic.
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Postby Impaled Nazarene » Mon Jun 14, 2021 12:40 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:I personally just find it to be very awkward to work with at times compared to plastic.

Still haven't even assembled Sevatar because of this.
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Postby Herador » Sat Jun 19, 2021 2:34 pm

Kids these days don't remember the pewter monopose models from way back. I kind of miss them, honestly.
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Herador wrote:Kids these days don't remember the pewter monopose models from way back. I kind of miss them, honestly.

Huh i actually just painted one lol
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:38 pm

GW had to put up a queuing system for their site earlier due to the high traffic over the launched of AoS third edition.

Speaking of which yes thats today lol but im sure yous already knew if you wanted the new dominion box.
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Postby Herador » Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:40 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Herador wrote:Kids these days don't remember the pewter monopose models from way back. I kind of miss them, honestly.

Huh i actually just painted one lol

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The Huskar Social Union wrote:Huh i actually just painted one lol

Let me bitter at the youth in peace, damn you

No!
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:48 pm

I'm the only one that can rant about the youth, I have four different first edition box sets.
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Washington Resistance Army wrote:I'm the only one that can rant about the youth, I have four different first edition box sets.

Oooooh, okay old man which ones you got.
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Postby Heloin » Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:53 pm

Well seeing everyone is already bitter about the youth, yo what up.

So as someone who plays a few of the games, is interested in the lore, and read a few books mostly in college, what's a good place to start when it comes to the miniatures? I seriously have no idea where to begin.

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:55 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:I'm the only one that can rant about the youth, I have four different first edition box sets.

Oooooh, okay old man which ones you got.


RTB01 (the OG beaky Space Marine box from '87 or so), a Space Orks box, a smaller Imperial Space Marine Squad box, the original Terminator box set and (it's technically second edition but only the box art is different) I also have the original Rhino.
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Washington Resistance Army wrote:I'm the only one that can rant about the youth, I have four different first edition box sets.

I sold mine, still salty as fuck about it.
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Postby Herador » Sat Jun 19, 2021 4:40 pm

Heloin wrote:Well seeing everyone is already bitter about the youth, yo what up.

So as someone who plays a few of the games, is interested in the lore, and read a few books mostly in college, what's a good place to start when it comes to the miniatures? I seriously have no idea where to begin.

I'm not as hip to the new editions, but the beginner battle box is a solid place to start. A lot of people go SM after that, least they used to, fewer models needed to fill out a small sized army list and they have a lot of options.
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Postby Baltenstein » Sun Jun 20, 2021 12:11 am

Heloin wrote:Well seeing everyone is already bitter about the youth, yo what up.

So as someone who plays a few of the games, is interested in the lore, and read a few books mostly in college, what's a good place to start when it comes to the miniatures? I seriously have no idea where to begin.


Depends a lot on the faction you are mainly interested in. Do you currently have any favorites?
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sun Jun 20, 2021 3:41 am

As Balt said which factions are you interested in? And is it for 40k or AoS?

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Heloin wrote:Well seeing everyone is already bitter about the youth, yo what up.

So as someone who plays a few of the games, is interested in the lore, and read a few books mostly in college, what's a good place to start when it comes to the miniatures? I seriously have no idea where to begin.

I'm not as hip to the new editions, but the beginner battle box is a solid place to start. A lot of people go SM after that, least they used to, fewer models needed to fill out a small sized army list and they have a lot of options.

Yeah the new started kits are honestly great imo. Unlike some 40k stuff they are well priced. I mean the Recruit edition gives you: 20 Miniatures, gaming mat, dice and range rulers, unit datasheets, some transfers and a recruit manual and its £32.50.

Another thing i would suggest if you are wanting to try your hand at painting in an affordable way is to get one of the new paint sets. You get three miniatures, a brush and six paints to make one of the basic colour schemes for the miniatures in question. So if you get the Intercessor + Paints kit you get the paints needed to paint Ultramarines for example to a basic standard. You can also get these paint sets for AoS too.
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Postby Heloin » Sun Jun 20, 2021 7:58 am

Baltenstein wrote:
Heloin wrote:Well seeing everyone is already bitter about the youth, yo what up.

So as someone who plays a few of the games, is interested in the lore, and read a few books mostly in college, what's a good place to start when it comes to the miniatures? I seriously have no idea where to begin.


Depends a lot on the faction you are mainly interested in. Do you currently have any favorites?

I like the Orks and the Mechanicus. Everyone else I find interesting enough, well except the T'au.

The Huskar Social Union wrote:As Balt said which factions are you interested in? And is it for 40k or AoS?

40k. I like the grimdark space opera.

Herador wrote:I'm not as hip to the new editions, but the beginner battle box is a solid place to start. A lot of people go SM after that, least they used to, fewer models needed to fill out a small sized army list and they have a lot of options.

Yeah the new started kits are honestly great imo. Unlike some 40k stuff they are well priced. I mean the Recruit edition gives you: 20 Miniatures, gaming mat, dice and range rulers, unit datasheets, some transfers and a recruit manual and its £32.50.

Another thing i would suggest if you are wanting to try your hand at painting in an affordable way is to get one of the new paint sets. You get three miniatures, a brush and six paints to make one of the basic colour schemes for the miniatures in question. So if you get the Intercessor + Paints kit you get the paints needed to paint Ultramarines for example to a basic standard. You can also get these paint sets for AoS too.

Thanks! Sounds like a good place to start.

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sun Jun 20, 2021 8:10 am

Heloin wrote:
Baltenstein wrote:
Depends a lot on the faction you are mainly interested in. Do you currently have any favorites?

I like the Orks and the Mechanicus. Everyone else I find interesting enough, well except the T'au.

The Huskar Social Union wrote:As Balt said which factions are you interested in? And is it for 40k or AoS?

40k. I like the grimdark space opera.

Yeah the new started kits are honestly great imo. Unlike some 40k stuff they are well priced. I mean the Recruit edition gives you: 20 Miniatures, gaming mat, dice and range rulers, unit datasheets, some transfers and a recruit manual and its £32.50.

Another thing i would suggest if you are wanting to try your hand at painting in an affordable way is to get one of the new paint sets. You get three miniatures, a brush and six paints to make one of the basic colour schemes for the miniatures in question. So if you get the Intercessor + Paints kit you get the paints needed to paint Ultramarines for example to a basic standard. You can also get these paint sets for AoS too.

Thanks! Sounds like a good place to start.
If you enjoy yourself with them and want to dive into your preferred faction, say orks or mechanicus i would say start slow. I see a lot of people who spend a lot early on and might not enjoy it and leave themselves with a lot of minis they have not even built or painted.

So if you were to go Orks for example, get yourself a basic squad first, so that would be a squad of Ork Boyz and that should give you a good feel for building them and painting them and it wont cost too much money.
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Postby Heloin » Sun Jun 20, 2021 8:16 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Heloin wrote:I like the Orks and the Mechanicus. Everyone else I find interesting enough, well except the T'au.


40k. I like the grimdark space opera.


Thanks! Sounds like a good place to start.
If you enjoy yourself with them and want to dive into your preferred faction, say orks or mechanicus i would say start slow. I see a lot of people who spend a lot early on and might not enjoy it and leave themselves with a lot of minis they have not even built or painted.

So if you were to go Orks for example, get yourself a basic squad first, so that would be a squad of Ork Boyz and that should give you a good feel for building them and painting them and it wont cost too much money.

Again thanks. Yeah, I'm not planning on diving into something like a Stompa as my first Ork set. Nice small sets to start, make sure I actually want to do this as another hobby.

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sun Jun 20, 2021 8:25 am

Heloin wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:If you enjoy yourself with them and want to dive into your preferred faction, say orks or mechanicus i would say start slow. I see a lot of people who spend a lot early on and might not enjoy it and leave themselves with a lot of minis they have not even built or painted.

So if you were to go Orks for example, get yourself a basic squad first, so that would be a squad of Ork Boyz and that should give you a good feel for building them and painting them and it wont cost too much money.

Again thanks. Yeah, I'm not planning on diving into something like a Stompa as my first Ork set. Nice small sets to start, make sure I actually want to do this as another hobby.

Exactly.

Ive seen a few posts on reddit of someone going "Hey guys just joining the hobby!" and they bought like four start collecting boxes or something and i just sit there asking myself why. Its important you actually like the hobby so you dont waste money.
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Postby Tethys 13 » Sun Jun 20, 2021 8:54 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Heloin wrote:Again thanks. Yeah, I'm not planning on diving into something like a Stompa as my first Ork set. Nice small sets to start, make sure I actually want to do this as another hobby.

Exactly.

Ive seen a few posts on reddit of someone going "Hey guys just joining the hobby!" and they bought like four start collecting boxes or something and i just sit there asking myself why. Its important you actually like the hobby so you dont waste money.


Oh indeed. People buying too much and immediately burning out trying to build and paint them (sometimes not even getting as far as the latter) happens far too often - and the same goes for starting with things that are too complex.
An acquaintance of mine recently got into the hobby, and was wavering between Sisters of Battle, Necrons and Tyranids. I advised them towards Necrons without hesitation. I do not know how it is for the new kits, but Necrons always seemed like the obvious starter army alongside Space Marines to me - the simplest paint scheme if you go for that, very receptive to drybrushing (more so than Space Marines), good core units, not too expensive for their points (compared to the other two they mentioned, certainly), not too large an army, strong in-game.
It certainly worked for them, they started small and have gradually worked their way up to now approaching 3,000 points - and they have apparently yet to lose a game. That is not to say everyone should start with Necrons, just that those are the things I value in recommending a first army.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sun Jun 20, 2021 9:00 am

Tethys 13 wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Exactly.

Ive seen a few posts on reddit of someone going "Hey guys just joining the hobby!" and they bought like four start collecting boxes or something and i just sit there asking myself why. Its important you actually like the hobby so you dont waste money.


Oh indeed. People buying too much and immediately burning out trying to build and paint them (sometimes not even getting as far as the latter) happens far too often - and the same goes for starting with things that are too complex.
An acquaintance of mine recently got into the hobby, and was wavering between Sisters of Battle, Necrons and Tyranids. I advised them towards Necrons without hesitation. I do not know how it is for the new kits, but Necrons always seemed like the obvious starter army alongside Space Marines to me - the simplest paint scheme if you go for that, very receptive to drybrushing (more so than Space Marines), good core units, not too expensive for their points (compared to the other two they mentioned, certainly), not too large an army, strong in-game.
It certainly worked for them, they started small and have gradually worked their way up to now approaching 3,000 points - and they have apparently yet to lose a game. That is not to say everyone should start with Necrons, just that those are the things I value in recommending a first army.
I have some of the new necron models from the indomitus box but ive only painted a few of the warriors but they were quite easy to paint.

I primed them black, did a metallic drybrush, painted the joint areas with lead belcher then shaded the whole thing in Nuln Oil and that was the majority of the work done. Any glowy areas i did in red and shaded them too.
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Postby Herador » Sun Jun 20, 2021 10:17 am

Heloin wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:If you enjoy yourself with them and want to dive into your preferred faction, say orks or mechanicus i would say start slow. I see a lot of people who spend a lot early on and might not enjoy it and leave themselves with a lot of minis they have not even built or painted.

So if you were to go Orks for example, get yourself a basic squad first, so that would be a squad of Ork Boyz and that should give you a good feel for building them and painting them and it wont cost too much money.

Again thanks. Yeah, I'm not planning on diving into something like a Stompa as my first Ork set. Nice small sets to start, make sure I actually want to do this as another hobby.

Even with that in mind, I'd say still get the beginner box. They might not be the armies you want to collect (is it still SM v Chaos or are there Orks now?) But it is a great way to find out if you like the modeling, painting, and gameplay aspects of the game.

E: I misunderstood the flow of conversation, thought you wanted to go Orks, my bad.
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