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Are you picking up the new Shadowspear set?

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Postby Balican » Fri Oct 19, 2018 1:45 pm

The Imperial Reach wrote:Does the Internet still exist in the 40k universe?

The opening of Space Marine looks like it's on the 40k "internet". However, as some others have said, most people wouldn't have access to it, or even know of it. In the opening of Space Marine that is the only time it is used and it is used by the AdMec, for the AdMec. Maybe the big boys have internet, but I highly doubt that the average citizen, or even guard has access to it. It is probably just for the planetary governors, the administratum, the inquisition, the Ecclesiarchy, and maybe the Astartes if it even exists at all. And if it does exist, it is only for official business matters of high importance.
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Postby Crookfur » Fri Oct 19, 2018 4:00 pm

I am sure that on the more developed worlds there will be examples of local/planet wide data networks of various types and degrees of interoperability. As to anything over a wider scale, well I'm sure we can all see the difficulties in that...

Tactical/strategic data networks seem to be pretty much standard amoungst the gaurd and a lot of day to day admin stuff you see does seem to be done on data slates/pads rather than paper and scrolls which seem to be reserved for only to most important ceremonial usages.
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Postby Chan Island » Fri Oct 19, 2018 4:46 pm

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Maichuko wrote:The II primarchs name is about as long as Alpharius, XI's name is about as long as Magnus the red. Some sort of genetic failure occurred, because Guilliman lists them as failures, and the other Nine as traitors. One of them encountered a Necron monument at some point.


Also, at least one got NOM'd by the Space Corgis.


We also know that at least one of them was involved in a brutal war against a Xenos that at the same time really mauled the Dark Angels Talk about tough. and that one of the missing primarchs was completely humourless. Sanguinius was deeply worried about the Black Rage and the Red Thirst in part because of the fate of one of them.

As for speculations as to what else... we had that a few pages ago.

Crookfur wrote:I am sure that on the more developed worlds there will be examples of local/planet wide data networks of various types and degrees of interoperability. As to anything over a wider scale, well I'm sure we can all see the difficulties in that...

Tactical/strategic data networks seem to be pretty much standard amoungst the gaurd and a lot of day to day admin stuff you see does seem to be done on data slates/pads rather than paper and scrolls which seem to be reserved for only to most important ceremonial usages.


^This.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Fri Oct 19, 2018 4:50 pm

The Imperial Reach wrote:
Maichuko wrote:The II primarchs name is about as long as Alpharius, XI's name is about as long as Magnus the red. Some sort of genetic failure occurred, because Guilliman lists them as failures, and the other Nine as traitors. One of them encountered a Necron monument at some point.


Also, at least one got NOM'd by the Space Corgis.


There's little to no evidence for that claim. The best assumptions we can draw is that one perished in one way or another during the Rangdan Xenocides and the other probably fell to genetic mutations, hence why Bird Boy is so terrified of the prospect of his legion getting censured because of their spoopy genetic stuff.
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Postby The Imperial Reach » Fri Oct 19, 2018 6:00 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
The Imperial Reach wrote:
Also, at least one got NOM'd by the Space Corgis.


There's little to no evidence for that claim. The best assumptions we can draw is that one perished in one way or another during the Rangdan Xenocides and the other probably fell to genetic mutations, hence why Bird Boy is so terrified of the prospect of his legion getting censured because of their spoopy genetic stuff.


Yeah, little to no evidence. Like Leman Russ outright saying that Astartes fighting each other isn't unprecedented prior to the Horus Heresy. Clearly he was talking about the Emperor's Children's annual pillow fight tournaments. :roll:
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Fri Oct 19, 2018 8:00 pm

The Imperial Reach wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
There's little to no evidence for that claim. The best assumptions we can draw is that one perished in one way or another during the Rangdan Xenocides and the other probably fell to genetic mutations, hence why Bird Boy is so terrified of the prospect of his legion getting censured because of their spoopy genetic stuff.


Yeah, little to no evidence. Like Leman Russ outright saying that Astartes fighting each other isn't unprecedented prior to the Horus Heresy. Clearly he was talking about the Emperor's Children's annual pillow fight tournaments. :roll:

Maybe he was talking about the World Eaters' belligerence.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Fri Oct 19, 2018 8:01 pm

The Imperial Reach wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
There's little to no evidence for that claim. The best assumptions we can draw is that one perished in one way or another during the Rangdan Xenocides and the other probably fell to genetic mutations, hence why Bird Boy is so terrified of the prospect of his legion getting censured because of their spoopy genetic stuff.


Yeah, little to no evidence. Like Leman Russ outright saying that Astartes fighting each other isn't unprecedented prior to the Horus Heresy. Clearly he was talking about the Emperor's Children's annual pillow fight tournaments. :roll:


He fought the World Eaters prior to the Heresy.
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Postby The Imperial Reach » Fri Oct 19, 2018 8:12 pm

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
The Imperial Reach wrote:
Yeah, little to no evidence. Like Leman Russ outright saying that Astartes fighting each other isn't unprecedented prior to the Horus Heresy. Clearly he was talking about the Emperor's Children's annual pillow fight tournaments. :roll:

Maybe he was talking about the World Eaters' belligerence.

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The Imperial Reach wrote:
Yeah, little to no evidence. Like Leman Russ outright saying that Astartes fighting each other isn't unprecedented prior to the Horus Heresy. Clearly he was talking about the Emperor's Children's annual pillow fight tournaments. :roll:


He fought the World Eaters prior to the Heresy.


He did? I must have missed that part. I mean, given it's the World Eater's we're talking about that doesn't surprise me but I don't remember seeing any mention of the Wolves and Eaters going at it.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Fri Oct 19, 2018 8:15 pm

The Imperial Reach wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:Maybe he was talking about the World Eaters' belligerence.

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
He fought the World Eaters prior to the Heresy.


He did? I must have missed that part. I mean, given it's the World Eater's we're talking about that doesn't surprise me but I don't remember seeing any mention of the Wolves and Eaters going at it.


http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Night_of_the_Wolf
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Postby The Imperial Reach » Sat Oct 20, 2018 7:03 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
The Imperial Reach wrote:

He did? I must have missed that part. I mean, given it's the World Eater's we're talking about that doesn't surprise me but I don't remember seeing any mention of the Wolves and Eaters going at it.


http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Night_of_the_Wolf


Huh, go figure.

On a related topic: what exactly did the Emperor do when he heard about this?
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sat Oct 20, 2018 7:07 am

The Imperial Reach wrote:


Huh, go figure.

On a related topic: what exactly did the Emperor do when he heard about this?

Ooooohhhhhh, stupid man.

After a couple of years we wont stand for that will we
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Postby Isvataan » Sat Oct 20, 2018 8:02 am

Another question: DO YOU HEAR THE VOICES TOO?!

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Postby The Imperial Reach » Sat Oct 20, 2018 8:26 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
The Imperial Reach wrote:
Huh, go figure.

On a related topic: what exactly did the Emperor do when he heard about this?

Ooooohhhhhh, stupid man.

After a couple of years we wont stand for that will we


???

Isvataan wrote:Another question: DO YOU HEAR THE VOICES TOO?!


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Impaled Nazarene wrote:
The Imperial Reach wrote:I've encountered this event maybe 4 times and I've never lost - not even once. Even the one time when I had no skill-related options, I still won.

Stop giving me more reasons to hate you
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sat Oct 20, 2018 8:32 am

The Imperial Reach wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Ooooohhhhhh, stupid man.

After a couple of years we wont stand for that will we


???

Isvataan wrote:Another question: DO YOU HEAR THE VOICES TOO?!


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Eddie izzard reference, it was a thing he said about european governments reaction to hitler taking over other countries and killing people.
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Postby The Imperial Reach » Sat Oct 20, 2018 12:27 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
The Imperial Reach wrote:
???



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Eddie izzard reference, it was a thing he said about european governments reaction to hitler taking over other countries and killing people.


Ah. I only knew about the "Do You Have A Flag?" and "Cake or Death" stuff.
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Postby Socialist Czechia » Sat Oct 20, 2018 12:32 pm

we totally need such movie

i hate it how many gitz knew nothing about WH40k.
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Postby The Imperial Reach » Sat Oct 20, 2018 12:45 pm

Socialist Czechia wrote:we totally need such movie

i hate it how many gitz knew nothing about WH40k.


You're the third person to post this, you know. Fairly certain we've all seen it by now.
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The Imperial Reach wrote:I've encountered this event maybe 4 times and I've never lost - not even once. Even the one time when I had no skill-related options, I still won.

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Postby Socialist Czechia » Sat Oct 20, 2018 12:46 pm

third time's the charm.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sat Oct 20, 2018 1:03 pm

The Imperial Reach wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Eddie izzard reference, it was a thing he said about european governments reaction to hitler taking over other countries and killing people.


Ah. I only knew about the "Do You Have A Flag?" and "Cake or Death" stuff.

From the same show, the man is a legend :lol:
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Postby Balican » Sat Oct 20, 2018 3:22 pm

Crookfur wrote:I am sure that on the more developed worlds there will be examples of local/planet wide data networks of various types and degrees of interoperability. As to anything over a wider scale, well I'm sure we can all see the difficulties in that...

Tactical/strategic data networks seem to be pretty much standard amoungst the gaurd and a lot of day to day admin stuff you see does seem to be done on data slates/pads rather than paper and scrolls which seem to be reserved for only to most important ceremonial usages.

Huh, I always just assumed that data slabs were more like pagers and less like actual tablets. Guess I'm wrong then.
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Postby Crookfur » Sat Oct 20, 2018 4:51 pm

Balican wrote:
Crookfur wrote:I am sure that on the more developed worlds there will be examples of local/planet wide data networks of various types and degrees of interoperability. As to anything over a wider scale, well I'm sure we can all see the difficulties in that...

Tactical/strategic data networks seem to be pretty much standard amoungst the gaurd and a lot of day to day admin stuff you see does seem to be done on data slates/pads rather than paper and scrolls which seem to be reserved for only to most important ceremonial usages.

Huh, I always just assumed that data slabs were more like pagers and less like actual tablets. Guess I'm wrong then.

It's hard to tell. Exactly what they are but I suspect they are more like ruggedised military data terminals with a display more like a pip boy than a modern tablet but again it probably varies a lot between worlds and ranks.
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Postby The Imperial Reach » Mon Oct 22, 2018 8:08 pm

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Impaled Nazarene wrote:
The Imperial Reach wrote:I've encountered this event maybe 4 times and I've never lost - not even once. Even the one time when I had no skill-related options, I still won.

Stop giving me more reasons to hate you
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NS stats are the Devil's lettuce
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Postby Northern Davincia » Mon Oct 22, 2018 8:11 pm

The Imperial Reach wrote:

Both would give the Imperial Guard collective groin spasms.
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Postby The Imperial Reach » Mon Oct 22, 2018 8:18 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
The Imperial Reach wrote:

Both would give the Imperial Guard collective groin spasms.


Manly tears are shed when bayonets are fixed. *nods*
Impaled Nazarene wrote:
The Imperial Reach wrote:I've encountered this event maybe 4 times and I've never lost - not even once. Even the one time when I had no skill-related options, I still won.

Stop giving me more reasons to hate you
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NS stats are the Devil's lettuce
I'm too lazy to make cool for a fancy sig

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Postby The Biggles Syndicate » Tue Oct 23, 2018 5:35 am

Northern Davincia wrote:
The Imperial Reach wrote:

Both would give the Imperial Guard collective groin spasms.

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