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Postby Serbian_Soviet_Union » Tue Jul 28, 2009 10:11 pm

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Sorry about this, but i specifically wrote in my thread, no OOC's please, constructive criticism is encouraged, where as the rest of the posts to be in IC, so to not ruin the quality of my aircraft storefront with ooc clutters and derailing the thread. L3 Communications has been under my nose lately, i dont know if its just a coincidence or if he is stalking me, as he seems to be attacking everysingle of my posts by trying to discredit me and make me look like something i am not. anyways thanks in advanced.
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Postby Stoklomolvi » Tue Jul 28, 2009 10:56 pm

I'm guessing that the big red text that says "Constructive criticism encouraged" doesn't mean anything, then.
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Postby Dread Lady Nathicana » Tue Jul 28, 2009 11:12 pm

Wait - you invite people to make comments, then complain when the comment isn't one you care for? Because saying constructive criticism is welcome, then griping when someone seems to point out that you seem to have ripped off existing things off wholesale is ... yeah.

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Postby Serbian_Soviet_Union » Tue Jul 28, 2009 11:24 pm

Dread Lady Nathicana wrote:Wait - you invite people to make comments, then complain when the comment isn't one you care for? Because saying constructive criticism is welcome, then griping when someone seems to point out that you seem to have ripped off existing things off wholesale is ... yeah.


What i meant by constructive criticism is not just a few words in a sentence or a one line sentence which was intended to flame, what L3 did was to flame intentionally, constructive criticism by what i mean is to write a post stating that there has been a mistake, or the aircraft is not feasible reason for it being etc...... If you want a fine example of what is a constructive criticism here it is, viewtopic.php?f=6&t=8057#p271516

Thats what a constructive criticism is. It is well explained, he even explained what the mistakes and errors were and why the aircraft would not meet it's full specifications and it's overall stated expectation and it gave me the opportunity to fix the errors and mistakes and it allowed it to meet it's full expectations according the specifications of the Aircraft.

I do not invite people to post OOC comments which would lead to OOC cluttering, what i do invite is constructive criticisms and suggestions. Anything more then that i did not invite. Please do not put words into my mouth.

However requesting a post to be deleted is my intention because it has already been covered and me and L3 do have alot of issues and his intentions were to derail the thread, discredit me and to turn me into something i am not. Setting aside personal feelings and emotions, i specifically stated no OOC,s only Constructive Criticisms and Suggestions, and also IC posts.
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Postby Dread Lady Nathicana » Tue Jul 28, 2009 11:35 pm

Yes, that's nice dear. You still encouraged people to reply, and when a reply clearly stating what the problem with your post was shows up, you get snitty.

When you borrow wholesale like that, you open yourself up to people who are all too willing to point it out. You can rant about what constructive criticism should or shouldn't be, but that doesn't change the fact that he called you on your ripoff, pointed out that it was a problem, and didn't blow a lot of space or useless words or fluff to do it.

Constructive criticism is ooc, not ic. So the 'no ooc' bit is misleading. I would suggest either asking no posts be made save people interested in purchasing, instruct that anyone who has criticisms or comments, to tg you.

Sure, its your right to request posts removed from your thread, but it smacks of trying to hide the fact that your design is utter plagiarism.

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Postby Serbian_Soviet_Union » Tue Jul 28, 2009 11:39 pm

Dread Lady Nathicana wrote:Yes, that's nice dear. You still encouraged people to reply, and when a reply clearly stating what the problem with your post was shows up, you get snitty.

When you borrow wholesale like that, you open yourself up to people who are all too willing to point it out. You can rant about what constructive criticism should or shouldn't be, but that doesn't change the fact that he called you on your ripoff, pointed out that it was a problem, and didn't blow a lot of space or useless words or fluff to do it.

Constructive criticism is ooc, not ic. So the 'no ooc' bit is misleading. I would suggest either asking no posts be made save people interested in purchasing, instruct that anyone who has criticisms or comments, to tg you.

Sure, its your right to request posts removed from your thread, but it smacks of trying to hide the fact that your design is utter plagiarism.


IC is when making a purchass, OOC/OOC clutter is just posting anything not related to the topic or it is intended to derail and lead to flaming. Constructive Criticism is what i already shown as an example, L3's post which he posted a few words, a one liner post was his intention to make me look like i was plagiarising, yet it was already written that it is an upgraded version of a RL aircraft and renamed it to something else.

Maybe i haven't been too specific about what is a Constructive Criticism?

My design is not plagiarism as i have stated regarding the Blackbird that it is an upgraded version of the original RL product, replacing a few things in the aircraft and making your own variant out of a RL product isn't plagiarism unless claiming it that you have designed it all yourself and claiming it only your product and not giving reference that the Soko 132 was originally the SR-71 Blackbird but has been upgraded, and Soko-132 is a variant of SR-71 Blackbird. So it can't be plagiarism unless claiming it that it was a FSSU original design when it isn't, so what is the problem?
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Postby Dread Lady Nathicana » Tue Jul 28, 2009 11:42 pm

Maybe you haven't been around long enough to understand how a lot of this works.

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Postby Serbian_Soviet_Union » Tue Jul 28, 2009 11:45 pm

Dread Lady Nathicana wrote:Maybe you haven't been around long enough to understand how a lot of this works.


I am still learning and no i havent been no longer then about 4-5 months on here, however i use to be on NS years and years ago with a different account which i made was Nova_Srbija but only for a short period of time, i recently revived that nation and it is now a puppet state of FSSU.
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Postby The Emmerian Unions » Tue Jul 28, 2009 11:45 pm

Serbian_Soviet_Union wrote:IC is when making a purchass, OOC/OOC clutter is just posting anything not related to the topic or it is intended to derail and lead to flaming. Constructive Criticism is what i already shown as an example, L3's post which he posted a few words, a one liner post was his intention to make me look like i was plagiarising, yet it was already written that it is an upgraded version of a RL aircraft and renamed it to something else.

Maybe i haven't been too specific about what is a Constructive Criticism?


Ok dude, srsly, please stop it. Ok. If you say to people to give constructive criticism, and yet not allow OOC to take place, it kinda defeats the purpose of the Constructive Criticism. Now, I would post something in your thread about the SOKO, but you'd probably ask for it to be deleted, so I won't. And also, it seems to me that you are trying to use the Mods as Weapons, which could get you banned or if done many times, DEAT'd.

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Postby Serbian_Soviet_Union » Tue Jul 28, 2009 11:47 pm

I am not using mods as weapons and i am sorry if it seems that way, if it does, then i withdraw my request and ask for the thread to die, sorry about this.
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Postby Stoklomolvi » Tue Jul 28, 2009 11:51 pm

FSSU, you yesterday PM'd me about experience and respect. Here is your chance to demonstrate by acknowledging the fact that you did indeed plagiarise the SR-71 Blackbird while changing a few numbers without actually demonstrating the knowledge of what the numbers mean. For instance, you changed the aspect ratio from 1.7 to 2.7 [not sure if it was intentional], which makes no sense as your wingspan and wing area did not change. The engines are exactly the same as the old ones, and somehow its top speed has increased and the maximum takeoff weight has also increased. Essentially the statblocks are exactly the same save for some illogical changes, and you slap a different name on it.

Come on, at least know what you're changing. The aspect ratio mistake just should not happen.

TEU, tone down your language.
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Postby Serbian_Soviet_Union » Tue Jul 28, 2009 11:57 pm

I just edited my post and removed the aircraft.
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Postby Stoklomolvi » Wed Jul 29, 2009 12:01 am

Custom designs always beat plagiarised ones. Good for you.
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Postby Serbian_Soviet_Union » Wed Jul 29, 2009 12:04 am

I will then start from scratch by creating an account on the NS draft forum and hopefully i will try to get some assistence in developing a Strategic Reconnaisance Aircraft. I may had gotten too carried away by watching a doco on Area 51 and a doco on aircrafts and the SR-71 Blackbird was showned and it gave me an idea to develop a variant out of the SR-71 which got me rushing to post it and making some changes although it was still in the drafting stage, so i admit making the mistake their by admitting partially plagiarising it, but after reading a few posts including yours and TEU, it got me thinking that if i am going to gain respect and not put myself into a situation like this again, i should create an NS draftroom account and ask for assistence and start from scratch by creating a Recon aircraft.

But it's so hard to create a custom design image of a Aircraft, Naval Ship or even a Tank, as i don't have the right programs such as PhotoShop and other graphic design images. So i might need some assistence on the design part only and on a few other areas.
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Postby Valipac » Wed Jul 29, 2009 3:53 am

Serbian_Soviet_Union wrote:But it's so hard to create a custom design image of a Aircraft, Naval Ship or even a Tank, as i don't have the right programs such as PhotoShop and other graphic design images. So i might need some assistence on the design part only and on a few other areas.

The NSDraftroom has a link in it to another forum, Lineartinc that has multiple drawing guides and will critique your art if you so desire. There is a free program known as Paint.Net, which is a phenomenal artistic tool and could help you as you draw.
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Postby Maldorians » Wed Jul 29, 2009 6:51 am

This is the 3rd time within 2 weeks that SSU has called in the mods for clearly unwarranted reasons. Stop using the mods as a weapon when your designs could use improvement.


EDIT: Dread Lady Nathicana beat me to it... xP
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Postby Serbian_Soviet_Union » Wed Jul 29, 2009 7:06 am

Maldorians wrote:This is the 3rd time within 2 weeks that SSU has called in the mods for clearly unwarranted reasons. Stop using the mods as a weapon when your designs could use improvement.


EDIT: Dread Lady Nathicana beat me to it... xP


I think it's been more then 2 weeks and if you happened to have read all the posts on this thread you will notice that i made a request to delete an OOC post that was clearly not constructive criticism but as an attempt to flame in my thread but however i withdrawn my request so it doesn't look like i am using the mods as a weapon when i am not.
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