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[Q] On Fahran

Postby Stratonesia » Mon Mar 25, 2024 5:10 pm

I do not understand why Fahran, a moderator, needs to make a report in this subforum every time someone violates the forum rules.
Like, they're a mod, can't they perform their moderator action themselves?
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Postby Farnhamia » Mon Mar 25, 2024 5:12 pm

Stratonesia wrote:I do not understand why Fahran, a moderator, needs to make a report in this subforum every time someone violates the forum rules.
Like, they're a mod, can't they perform their moderator action themselves?

If a Mod is active in a thread they can't handle issues there, but they can report things.
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Postby United Calanworie » Mon Mar 25, 2024 5:13 pm

Which is well-documented, for the record.
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Postby Vonum » Mon Mar 25, 2024 5:14 pm

If I'm not mistaken, Mods are also advised not to participate or reduce participation in RPs, correct?
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Postby Stratonesia » Mon Mar 25, 2024 5:16 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Stratonesia wrote:I do not understand why Fahran, a moderator, needs to make a report in this subforum every time someone violates the forum rules.
Like, they're a mod, can't they perform their moderator action themselves?

If a Mod is active in a thread they can't handle issues there, but they can report things.

United Calanworie wrote:Which is well-documented, for the record.

So what you're saying is this is a thing in the forum, right?
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Ay, ay! (May God of Ultra protect this nation!)

Hail Stratonesia! Praise Be to Ultra!
No, that's not news headlines.
Palestinian artists, don't be disheartened! Eurovision's shameless support for Israel and its failure to acknowledge their wrongdoing shouldn't discourage you. You're guaranteed a place at the 2024 ABU TV Song Festival, where we always keep a spot open for you. We can't wait to see you there!

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Postby Refuge Isle » Mon Mar 25, 2024 5:22 pm

Stratonesia wrote:So what you're saying is this is a thing in the forum, right?

Moderators can't self-moderate, meaning taking mod action on things that involve themselves. This is true whether it's an NSG debate that they're having with you, or a threatening telegram sent to their nation.

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Postby Farnhamia » Mon Mar 25, 2024 5:23 pm

Stratonesia wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:If a Mod is active in a thread they can't handle issues there, but they can report things.

United Calanworie wrote:Which is well-documented, for the record.

So what you're saying is this is a thing in the forum, right?

I don't ... yes, forum stuff. Gameside is different.
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"Make yourself at home, Frank. Hit somebody." RIP Don Rickles
My country, right or wrong; if right, to be kept right; and if wrong, to be set right. ~ Carl Schurz
<Sigh> NSG...where even the atheists are Augustinians. ~ The Archregimancy
Now the foot is on the other hand ~ Kannap
RIP Dyakovo ... Ashmoria (Freedom ... or cake)
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Postby United Calanworie » Mon Mar 25, 2024 5:23 pm

Vonum wrote:If I'm not mistaken, Mods are also advised not to participate or reduce participation in RPs, correct?

You are incredibly mistaken.
Stratonesia wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:If a Mod is active in a thread they can't handle issues there, but they can report things.

United Calanworie wrote:Which is well-documented, for the record.

So what you're saying is this is a thing in the forum, right?

"thing in the forum" is such a vague dependent clause that you could only make it more vague by substituting "place" for forum, or something along those lines. It's a policy on the site, if that's what you mean.
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Postby Farnhamia » Mon Mar 25, 2024 5:24 pm

Refuge Isle wrote:
Stratonesia wrote:So what you're saying is this is a thing in the forum, right?

Moderators can't self-moderate, meaning taking mod action on things that involve themselves. This is true whether it's an NSG debate that they're having with you, or a threatening telegram sent to their nation.

True, but the OSRS does say that if someone starts posting gore or porn or something that needs fast attention, a participating Mod can act.
Make Earth Great Again: Stop Continental Drift!
And Jesus was a sailor when he walked upon the water ...
"Make yourself at home, Frank. Hit somebody." RIP Don Rickles
My country, right or wrong; if right, to be kept right; and if wrong, to be set right. ~ Carl Schurz
<Sigh> NSG...where even the atheists are Augustinians. ~ The Archregimancy
Now the foot is on the other hand ~ Kannap
RIP Dyakovo ... Ashmoria (Freedom ... or cake)
This is the eighth line. If your signature is longer, it's too long.

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Postby Vonum » Mon Mar 25, 2024 5:29 pm

United Calanworie wrote:
Vonum wrote:If I'm not mistaken, Mods are also advised not to participate or reduce participation in RPs, correct?

You are incredibly mistaken.


Why am I not surprised with myself anymore?! haha

Maybe I'm a little stupid, maybe a little tired. I like to think it's a little bit of both.
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Police stop a riot supporting Nazism in downtown Miami
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Miami: 31ºC, Sunny
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Postby New Visayan Islands » Mon Mar 25, 2024 5:40 pm

Vonum wrote:If I'm not mistaken, Mods are also advised not to participate or reduce participation in RPs, correct?

No. Mods can still participate in RPs, same as everyone else. As a matter of fact, this particular mod is active in quite a few RPs himself, as certain players in the N&I board can attest to.

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Fahran
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Postby Fahran » Tue Mar 26, 2024 8:39 am

As other members of the Moderation Team have suggested, I routinely recuse myself from making decisions regarding threads in which I'm an active participant, as well as all other situations where I believe some appearance of bias or prejudice would be present. This is important in maintaining a fair and transparent approach to Moderation on-site. I have only ever made exceptions for acting against the spamming of explicit content since no issue of appearance of bias or prejudicial judgement exists in those cases.

I figured, given the request for clarification was directed towards my actions, I owed it to the community to respond, even if I believe my colleagues answered the question well enough without my input.


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