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Reporting El Lazaro against Me GMS.

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Greater Miami Shores 3
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Reporting El Lazaro against Me GMS.

Postby Greater Miami Shores 3 » Sat Mar 25, 2023 4:23 pm

GMS To the Moderator: I have a few cool and serious RP posts to make today and Sunday, and I think El Lazaro will do it again, running my serious RP Posts. This is the second time El Lazaro has done this against me GMS, he copied my Avatar Pic to his imgur account or to whatever account and quotes me with them as if he is me, without my permission and using my RP style of Posting.

I have Tin Hampton's Permission: He is my RP Vice Prime Minister.

I was going to let it go, but I realized, I have plans for a few cool serious RP Posts today and Sunday, and I think he will do so again, ruining the flow of my cool serious RP Posts.

it all starts here, where I was welcoming Milk Island to our NS Parliament Political RP:

GMS to Milk Island: viewtopic.php?f=25&t=529516&p=40450537#p40450537
Hello and welcome to our RP, to start introduce yourself and your political preferences and ideology and just quote any posts you like from page 1 to the current page, welcome to our RP and have RP Fun.

El Lazaro to GMS quoting me, using My Avatar Pic on his Imgur account or whatever account as if he is me GMS and using my style of posting:
I and we disagree with this and you and them.
viewtopic.php?p=40450397#p40450397

GMS to El Lazaro:
But to make it clear, I have not given you permission to copy my Pic on NS to your imgur account or whatever account and use it to quote me GMS, with my own Pic.

Repeated for Emphasis: I was going to let it go, but I realized, I have plans for a few cool serious RP Posts today and Sunday, and I think he will do so again, ruining the flow of my cool serious RP Posts. You can read the rest of my quote here. He also does not like my Trump Politics and Politics, so I think this is another reason he does this, to mess with me. viewtopic.php?p=40450537#p40450537

El Lazaro to GMS: Thank you, but I do not like to accusations of intellectual property theft. viewtopic.php?p=40450558#p40450558

GMS.
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Postby El Lazaro » Sat Mar 25, 2023 5:38 pm

What exactly are you reporting me for?

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Postby Greater Miami Shores 3 » Sat Mar 25, 2023 6:07 pm

GMS to the Moderator UP Dated Report: Now El Lazaro is using My Avatar Pic and Tim Hamton's Avatar Pic, without Tim Hampton's Permission. I have Tin Hampton's Permission. He is my RP Vice Prime Minister.

Harry Islands Posted:'
They are Yes, we are just waiting for some money to come into the coffers.
viewtopic.php?p=40450871#p40450871

He Posts to other Posters and me like this:
What if the Green Party breaks with your coalition over it?

Prime Minister - Royal Baron Von El Lazaro (my real name is not Lazaro though).
https://i.imgur.com/f8Rnswa.jpg
Make Cuba Great Again.
Viva España La Madre Patria.
Vice Prime Minister - Royal Baron Von Max Barry.
https://i.imgur.com/2A04BFd.jpg
Make Great Britain Great Again.
The El Lazaro Council of Ministers.
Make El Lazaro Great Again.
Keep El Lazaro Strong Again, Through Peace Through Strength.
The Conservative Republican Economic Libertarian Nationalist Patriot Party.
The Democratic Capitalist Kingdom Republic $ of El Lazaro.

Here is the Link Post of El Lazaro to Harry Islands on our NS Parliament Political RP:
viewtopic.php?f=25&t=529516&p=40450880#p40450880

GMS.
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Postby United Calanworie » Sat Mar 25, 2023 7:20 pm

Please cite, from the One Stop Rules Shop, precisely what rule you think he has broken. Do not include any further information, just the name of the rule.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores 3 » Sat Mar 25, 2023 7:31 pm

United Calanworie wrote:Please cite, from the One Stop Rules Shop, precisely what rule you think he has broken. Do not include any further information, just the name of the rule.

GMS to the Moderator:

Impersonation: Any attempt to maliciously impersonate another nation or region, including employing a similar name is illegal according to the FAQ. Note that the impersonation must be "malicious" to be a prohibited action, and we generally require the report to come from the impersonated party.

Trolling/Baiting/Gloating: Trolling is defined as posts that are made with the aim of angering people.

(like 'ALL JEWS ARE [insert vile comment here]' for example). Someone disagreeing with you does not equate to trolling.

Intent is incredibly important and will be judged by the moderators to the best of their abilities.

Honest belief does not excuse trolling. Disagreements are expected and conducting yourself in a civil manner is ideal. Trollbaiting is the action of making posts that attract trolls. A prime example of trollbaiting would be gloating over the results of an election.

Flamebaiting: Posts that are made with the aim of angering someone indirectly. Not outright flame, but still liable to bring angry replies.

Flame baiting is a far more subtle and covert action; it is an underhanded tactic that is designed to provoke a response from another player.

It's in the same context of trolling but with flamebaiting it's just the one person. Also included under flamebaiting is malicious quote editing, changing the contents of a quoted post without showing the original text, either through color changes or strike-out.

Bad Faith: It is expected that players post with the intent of making the site a better, more enjoyable place to be - this is good faith posting. Bad faith posting is when a person is no longer interested in this goal, and instead seeks to score points, contributes nothing useful, or is deceitful.

GMS.
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Postby El Lazaro » Sat Mar 25, 2023 8:09 pm

Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:
United Calanworie wrote:Please cite, from the One Stop Rules Shop, precisely what rule you think he has broken. Do not include any further information, just the name of the rule.

GMS to the Moderator:

Impersonation: Any attempt to maliciously impersonate another nation or region, including employing a similar name is illegal according to the FAQ. Note that the impersonation must be "malicious" to be a prohibited action, and we generally require the report to come from the impersonated party.

Trolling/Baiting/Gloating: Trolling is defined as posts that are made with the aim of angering people.

(like 'ALL JEWS ARE [insert vile comment here]' for example). Someone disagreeing with you does not equate to trolling.

Intent is incredibly important and will be judged by the moderators to the best of their abilities.

Honest belief does not excuse trolling. Disagreements are expected and conducting yourself in a civil manner is ideal. Trollbaiting is the action of making posts that attract trolls. A prime example of trollbaiting would be gloating over the results of an election.

Flamebaiting: Posts that are made with the aim of angering someone indirectly. Not outright flame, but still liable to bring angry replies.

Flame baiting is a far more subtle and covert action; it is an underhanded tactic that is designed to provoke a response from another player.

It's in the same context of trolling but with flamebaiting it's just the one person. Also included under flamebaiting is malicious quote editing, changing the contents of a quoted post without showing the original text, either through color changes or strike-out.

Bad Faith: It is expected that players post with the intent of making the site a better, more enjoyable place to be - this is good faith posting. Bad faith posting is when a person is no longer interested in this goal, and instead seeks to score points, contributes nothing useful, or is deceitful.

GMS.

1. My username, flag, and (lack of) signature are all distinct from yours. It would impossible to mistake the two:
2. I am not making any shocking and offensive comments about a group of people.
3. Flamebaiting is not whenever you dislike a post, and the intent is clearly to be silly. As your said, your issue with the post is that it makes you feel “not serious” enough.
4. The topic is on F7, and the tone is quite clearly exaggerated and fantastical in some regards. For example, some posters (including myself) have discussed overthrowing the RP government and waging nuclear war when we obviously do not want this to happen in real life, and the quality of roleplay is not to the point that any of this can be considered disruptive or against the (notably absent) thread rules.

You have made repeated baseless, meritless reports, in response to which I have already suggested simply choosing not to read my posts by blocking me. This is getting to be a nuisance.
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Postby United Calanworie » Sat Mar 25, 2023 9:29 pm

None of those offenses are actionable here. Notably, bad faith does not apply as an offense outside of the Moderation forum, Got Issues?, and selected threads that Moderation chooses to enforce it in.

If you two cannot behave, foe list each other. If you *don't* foe list each other, and engage in disputes, we'll just escalate straight to redtext/bans.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores 3 » Sat Mar 25, 2023 10:23 pm

United Calanworie wrote:None of those offenses are actionable here. Notably, bad faith does not apply as an offense outside of the Moderation forum, Got Issues?, and selected threads that Moderation chooses to enforce it in.

If you two cannot behave, foe list each other. If you *don't* foe list each other, and engage in disputes, we'll just escalate straight to redtext/bans.

GMS to the Moderator, I respectfully ask for a second opinion?

GMS: To the second Moderator: I know you know the rules of Impersonation and intent.

I have Tin Hamton's Permission to use his Avatar Pic, he is My RP Vice Prime Minister.

Please notice El Lazaro posted to me like this, signed GMS Alberto and Tin Hampton, using My Avatar Pic I regularly use and Tin Hampton's Avatar Pic, which he gave me Permission to use, as My RP Vice Prime Minister.

El Lazaro's intent of Impersonation was not to be nice and cool with me, It is to mess with me. He was provoking me to respond in an angry way, many Persons might respond to El Lazaro in an angry way, if he quotes them with their own Avatar Pics signed with their RP names. It is logical to assume so. He did twice by intent, but I let it go the first time. EL Lazaro does not do this with Northern Seleucia, Harry Islands or any other Posters, only with me GMS.

I will never put El Lazaro or any Persons on ignore, for any actionable or non actionable reasons against me, or for any reasons. All Persons on NS who know me, knows it. Because I respect them. The System does not even work Properly.

Posted By El Lazaro to me GMS, with the information I Posted Above:

I and we disagree with this and you and them.

https://i.imgur.com/f8Rnswa.jpg
Prime Minister - GMS Alberto.
Make Cuba Great Again.
Make Miami Great Again.
Make La Habana Cuba Great Again.
Viva España La Madre Patria.
Prime Minister of Greater Miami Shores 3.

https://i.imgur.com/2A04BFd.jpg
Vice Prime Minister - Tin Hampton.
Make Great Britain Great Again.

Elected by a landslide % and.
Reelected by a greater landslide %.
of 5 Year Terms.

Peace Through Strength.
The Conservative Republican.
Economic Libertarian.
Nationalist Patriot Party.
The GMS Council of Ministers.
The Democratic Capitalist $ Republic of Greater Miami Shores 3.

viewtopic.php?p=40450397#p40450397

This is the second time El Lazaro did this, I let it go the first time.
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But El Lazaro then Posted to Harry Islands like this twice: The Avatar Pics EL Lazaro uses are My GMS Avatar Pic, I have been using regularly and Tin Hampton's Avatar Pic, which he gave me Permission to use as My Vice Prime Minister.

It is Impersonation: El Lazaro's intent of iimpersonation, is not to be nice and cool with me, it is to mess with me, and Provoke an angry response from me. Many Persons might respond in an angry response to El Lazaro if he did this to them. It is logical to assume so.

Harry Islands Posted:'
They are Yes, we are just waiting for some money to come into the coffers.
viewtopic.php?p=40450871#p40450871

He Posts to other Posters and me like this:
What if the Green Party breaks with your coalition over it?

Prime Minister - Royal Baron Von El Lazaro (my real name is not Lazaro though).
https://i.imgur.com/f8Rnswa.jpg
Make Cuba Great Again.
Viva España La Madre Patria.
Vice Prime Minister - Royal Baron Von Max Barry.
https://i.imgur.com/2A04BFd.jpg
Make Great Britain Great Again.
The El Lazaro Council of Ministers.
Make El Lazaro Great Again.
Keep El Lazaro Strong Again, Through Peace Through Strength.
The Conservative Republican Economic Libertarian Nationalist Patriot Party.
The Democratic Capitalist Kingdom Republic $ of El Lazaro.

Here is the Link Post of El Lazaro to Harry Islands on our NS Parliament Political RP:
viewtopic.php?f=25&t=529516&p=40450880#p40450880

GMS.
Last edited by Greater Miami Shores 3 on Sat Mar 25, 2023 11:38 pm, edited 15 times in total.

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Postby Sedgistan » Sun Mar 26, 2023 1:06 am

Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:GMS to the Moderator, I respectfully ask for a second opinion?

Not actionable.

Everything below that part of your post was unnecessary spam, as was 95% of the rest of what you have posted in this thread. We have talked to you about this repeatedly, and you have had multiple warnings and forumbans across your various accounts for your spamming in Moderation. You are now getting a *** 1 week forumban for spamming in Moderation. *** If you continue this behaviour, deletion is the end result.


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