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I’m asking because of the number of outright Taliban supporters on the Afghan thread. Would supporting the Taliban (a terrorist organisation) count as against the rules?

Not a mod, but common sense says, in general, it's not about who you support necessarily, but how you argue your point your of view within the rules and civility. If you can do that, you are welcome to participate in NS as you please, for the most part.

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The Rio Grande River Basin wrote:I’m asking because of the number of outright Taliban supporters on the Afghan thread. Would supporting the Taliban (a terrorist organisation) count as against the rules?

GMS: Dude, the problem is, the Taliban are a terrorist organization to you and me in this case, but they are not a terrorist organization to other persons. The Taliban are now the legal government of Afghanistan, you don't like it and I don't like it, but there are persons who like it. But it is good that you are asking the Moderators who make the rules.

This rule of terrorist organization to me, but not to other persons apply to other organizations you, me and other persons might consider a terrorist organization or not.

The Rio Grande River Basin wrote:I’m asking because of the number of outright Taliban supporters on the Afghan thread. Would supporting the Taliban (a terrorist organisation) count as against the rules?

It a difficult position to defend without veering off into trolling, but not banned outright. If you suspect someone is trolling, please report the specific posts.

To be quite honest with you, this site needs to have a discussion on whether people who come on here to argue in favor of hateful ideologies should be allowed at all. I don't think NS should be allowed to be an open platform for Nazis, white supremacists, anti-semites, incels and Islamo-fascists

Dayganistan wrote:To be quite honest with you, this site needs to have a discussion on whether people who come on here to argue in favor of hateful ideologies should be allowed at all. I don't think NS should be allowed to be an open platform for Nazis, white supremacists, anti-semites, incels and Islamo-fascists

That conversation was had a long time ago. It is the site owner's opinion that silly, stupid, and even sickening opinions are better allowed in the sunlight, where they can be ripped apart, than pushed into the shadows. The many people who cannot argue their unpopular opinion while staying within the rules will get punished for that, but within the rules, anything is permissible. (Or almost anything. I think the staff finally got tired of cookie-cutter Nazi nations.)

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Dayganistan wrote:To be quite honest with you, this site needs to have a discussion on whether people who come on here to argue in favor of hateful ideologies should be allowed at all.

People on the sites have had that discussion for a long time. Max's decision is to not ban people who favour hateful ideologies for their support of said ideologies. That ship has already sailed.

My experience has been that people who harbour those beliefs get banned for violations of site rules that have nothing to do with believing certain ways.

Sarzonia wrote:

Dayganistan wrote:To be quite honest with you, this site needs to have a discussion on whether people who come on here to argue in favor of hateful ideologies should be allowed at all.

People on the sites have had that discussion for a long time. Max's decision is to not ban people who favour hateful ideologies for their support of said ideologies. That ship has already sailed.

My experience has been that people who harbour those beliefs get banned for violations of site rules that have nothing to do with believing certain ways.

Now you say that, yes. Saiwania was DEATed for trolling, not being a Nazi, and FI was DEATed for telling us all that we weren’t “white enough to be European”, not being a white supremacist.

If I've been brought up, then I take this as permission to defend my actions or opine on the matter. The fact that this website doesn't allow the more extreme viewpoints means that this place isn't as serious and flexible of a debating platform as I'd hope. It takes away from my user experience in any case. While I do try my best to adhere to the "no trolling" rule it remains an annoying limitation in the eyes of many people.

I'd ask, why shouldn't some people support the Taliban if for better or worse, they're an official government that is currently in power within Afghanistan and are a valid faction so far as which side will win out in Afghanistan's civil wars over the long term?

In the thread about when the US puppet government in Afghanistan lost, there were no sanctions given for supporting the Taliban; so I concluded that it is within the website's rules to publicly support them if nothing has changed between then and now. The Taliban has implemented various policies on the ground where they rule, so it is plausible that some people politically agree or are more in alignment with what they're doing.

There is nothing truly more nefarious at play, if the Taliban is perhaps Afghanistan's equivalent to the US Republican party for the time being, albeit- originating from and supported by Pakistan.

The fact that this website does allow more extreme viewpoints is proven directly by the fact that your presence is still allowed here.
Considering your post history, I'd be very very grateful they let you get away with as much nonsense as they already have so far.

Dayganistan wrote:To be quite honest with you, this site needs to have a discussion on whether people who come on here to argue in favor of hateful ideologies should be allowed at all. I don't think NS should be allowed to be an open platform for Nazis, white supremacists, anti-semites, incels and Islamo-fascists

This was discussed long ago. Basically any ideology can be discussed here as long as site rules about harassment, trolling, etc. are followed. About the only explicitly banned ideology as far as I know is holocaust denial.

Okay, this thread has run its course. iLock.