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Dexterra
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[R] Flaming, F7

Postby Dexterra » Thu Sep 01, 2022 5:16 pm

Underlining mine - further context available from that link for transparency's sake. Seems a little over the line to me.

Gandoor wrote:jesus christ can you just shut the hell up this is the ns clichés thread

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Postby Farnhamia » Thu Sep 01, 2022 5:29 pm

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Postby Orlesian States » Thu Sep 01, 2022 5:40 pm

I know that a Mod has responded already, but for further context Zaeylia sort of veered off topic and said something that didn't really make any sense regarding the cliche thread.
Zaeylia wrote:I know which other type of Users: Despotic Nation RP; but let me show you something:
"Don't forget how nearly every historical feudal despot or later-age absolutist has the attribute of being literally all-powerful, in charge of every single aspect of their government, and personally making literally every single decision in their country. Which is, of course, obviously how actual monarchies* work, right?"

Modernist authoritarian regimes and contemporary global democracies both appear as cliches but they are mere tropes. When asked to elaborate, both of them conclude with what is essentially an oligarchy (technocracy, meritocracy, theocracy...) That's the "behind-the-scenes" cliche of NS.

*By "actual monarchies" I'm essentially suggesting that "A Constitutional/Parliamentary Monarchy" doesn't exist. It's a two-word contradiction.
The post was remarked with confusion, some replies, and then they kept it going with a topic utterly unnecessary within the cliche thread.
Zaeylia wrote:Neither do psychiatrists use "schizophrenia" in such a way, nor do political scientists use "monarchy" to refer to contemporary hereditary, ceremonial heads of state. In the former case, "schizophrenia" has about 12-15 categories, each having 3-5 sub-categories within it. Some of those categories do mean a "split" mind such as F31.5. In the latter, "monarchy" is a reference to either feudal or absolute monarchies, excluding pre-536 A.D. "empires/civilizations". It always has to be specified as "constitutional/parliamentary monarchy" to get through the editorials.


On the note of "not seeing this here lol", I never thought that a political simulator would re-define what "Francoism" is, either, but here we are lol.
I do not see why this should be discussed within the thread, so I believe that Gandoor was not quite over the line in this instance.

To further mention, Foehn Paramilitary Regions said,
Foehn Paramilitary Regions wrote:/rantdone. If you want to discuss this any further, feel free to send me a telegram, lest we end up derailing this thread even further.
Giving the user Zaeylia a opportunity to speak about it outside of the thread, but still continued even after Foehn mentioned the thread was being 'derailed'.
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Postby Dexterra » Thu Sep 01, 2022 7:22 pm

Farnhamia wrote:Not actionable

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