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[R] Flaming in Artsakh thread

Postby Vistulange » Sat Jul 30, 2022 10:17 am

Mets Hayk wrote:The Turks and their Azeri lapdogs are, by all means, denying the Armenians in Artsakh the right to decide their own fate. This has been evident for decades...


Emphasis mine. It felt like it read along the lines of implying all Azeris are Turkish lapdogs, which I felt fell under an "all X are Y" statement—and "lapdog" isn't a particularly pleasant thing to call a group of people.

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Postby Mets Hayk » Sat Jul 30, 2022 10:20 am

Vistulange wrote:
Mets Hayk wrote:The Turks and their Azeri lapdogs are, by all means, denying the Armenians in Artsakh the right to decide their own fate. This has been evident for decades...


Emphasis mine. It felt like it read along the lines of implying all Azeris are Turkish lapdogs, which I felt fell under an "all X are Y" statement—and "lapdog" isn't a particularly pleasant thing to call a group of people.


I was referring to the Turkish and Azeri governments. As it's been proven that Azerbaijan is more willing to bend over to Ankara's demands, I think this is a well-deserved example of criticism.
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Postby Vistulange » Sat Jul 30, 2022 10:24 am

Mets Hayk wrote:
Vistulange wrote:
Emphasis mine. It felt like it read along the lines of implying all Azeris are Turkish lapdogs, which I felt fell under an "all X are Y" statement—and "lapdog" isn't a particularly pleasant thing to call a group of people.


I was referring to the Turkish and Azeri governments. As it's been proven that Azerbaijan is more willing to bend over to Ankara's demands, I think this is a well-deserved example of criticism.

Nothing of the sort has been proven—an awfully strong word to use—and you very well could have specified "governments", and elected not to do so.

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Postby Mets Hayk » Sat Jul 30, 2022 10:27 am

Vistulange wrote:
Mets Hayk wrote:
I was referring to the Turkish and Azeri governments. As it's been proven that Azerbaijan is more willing to bend over to Ankara's demands, I think this is a well-deserved example of criticism.

Nothing of the sort has been proven—an awfully strong word to use—and you very well could have specified "governments", and elected not to do so.


You also need to take into account that, throughout the entire thread, when I said "Azeri" and "Turk", it too pertained to their governments. When I argued that the Azeris were committing genocide against the Armenian race in Artsakh - do you think I was referring to...ordinary Azeris?
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Postby Giovenith » Sat Jul 30, 2022 12:32 pm

Addressed.

If you're actually criticizing the government, you have to make that more obvious in the future. Also, avoid direct insults like "lapdogs" altogether, it's not worth the risk.
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Postby Vistulange » Sun Jul 31, 2022 3:48 pm

Thanks for the look, Gio.

Also: flamebaiting?

Sordhau wrote:
Mets Hayk wrote:From the Armenian genocide Wikipedia page. It's almost as if Kemal's massacres were an extension of the genocide?:
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Whoops, there goes Vist's narrative! Slipped on a banana peel. Those are dangerous, y'know.

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Postby Giovenith » Thu Aug 04, 2022 5:20 pm

Snarky, but no. Though again, let us know if the specific targeting continues.
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