[R] Various posts in the Roe Overturned thread

[New haven america]

So I know why the current OP is the way it is, they posted first and the threads got rolled together.

But tbh, I don't find the current OP appropriate, given that (And especially in the current situation) they've spent the past 5-10 pages threadjacking, celebrating/gloating, and spouting their political manifesto. (Reports for such behavior can be seen above)

Can either the mods or a regular user like Godular take over instead? Thank you.

No - there's nothing wrong with the content of the OP, and there's no ideological requirement to be OP of the thread.

Evidently there actually is because he just got warned for commercialization.

https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=520372&p=39729874#p39729874

2nd opinion requested.

[Crazy girl]

We don't change the OP just because someone gets warned. I see no need to change the OP.

[Anglecia]

I am pro-life, so I’m happy that R v W has been overturned. However, my issue with it is that there is a significant lack of communal and social services and resources to support (expectant) mothers and couples with the commitment of raising a child. Ideally, abortion wouldn’t even be appealing or necessary for anyone as there should be such services and community and social support to ensure mothers and couples can raise a child without breaking the bank or being otherwise negatively affected. I hope American lawmakers and community leaders understand that more needs to be established in terms of resources and support, rather than keeping (expectant) mothers in the dark or at risk of being negatively affected.

The exact same people who wanted Roe V Wade gone are the ones opposing any sort of services to help such mothers. They even make an active effort to denounce those people as parasites and sluts.

So no. They will not understand. Quite the opposite.

All X are Y, saying that people who support overturning Roe (i.e., pro-lifers) think that pregnant women are all parasites/sluts.

[Dexterra]

Emphasis mine, and apologies if nothing

So did you try to stop the repeal of Roe v Wade until such changes were made? Are you outside now, protesting bans on abortion introduced before social services or even adequate measures to protest rape, exist?

No?

Actions speak louder than words. At least the "all women are sluts" advocates are *honest*.

[Anglecia]

We should have national legislation to protect abortion in emergencies, such as incest and health risks, and if we are going to ban abortion governor wheelchair should spend (much more) on social services.

Political nicknaming.

[Godular]

Of late, I've noted a string of flaming in the Abortion thread. Tame flaming, but still flaming.

Not accepting education is stupid however.

Manny states do not educate about contraception. Idiot.

Manny states do not educate about contraception. Idiot.

Age of free info. Bigger idiot.

Age of free info. Bigger idiot.

People in these areas disproportionately don’t have access to the internet. Massive idiot.

[Catholic America]

We should have national legislation to protect abortion in emergencies, such as incest and health risks, and if we are going to ban abortion governor wheelchair should spend (much more) on social services.

Political nicknaming.

I have read the rules many times and have never seen anything prohibiting this. This could be considered flaming, but flaming is directed against players, and the figure in question is a public figure.

[Godular]

Political nicknaming.

I have read the rules many times and have never seen anything prohibiting this. This could be considered flaming, but flaming is directed against players, and the figure in question is a public figure.

Political Nicknaming is a form of trolling. Referring to certain political figureheads by a derogatory nickname adds nothing to the discussion and riles other posters.

[Anglecia]

They may not have the assets or collateral to be approved for a personal loan. But I don’t think an unborn child deserves to die because the mother is poor

Neither parents nor child will live in dignity.
Abortion in itself is an undignified mean to a dignified end. A Childbirth in that case usually is an undignified mean to an undignified end. Even more so when rape is involved.
But for some reason some conservatives in this world find rape absolutely legitimate if it's for child-rearing.
And tbf I don't think that dignity ever was a consideration in US politics.

Saying that conservatives support rape

[Anglecia]

Bumping

[Giovenith]

Not actionable.

[Anglecia]

Not actionable.

With respect, I would like to request a second opinion for all of my reports.

1. In my interpretation, "Governor Wheelchair" is clear cut political nicknaming.

2. I read this as professing that pro-life/anti-abortion people believe that pregnant women are all parasites/sluts.

3. I read this as saying that conservatives believe rape to be legitimate, as inflammatory a statement as you can get.

At the very least, if possible, I would like to know why none of them are actionable.

[Catholic America]

Not actionable.

With respect, I would like to request a second opinion for all of my reports.

1. In my interpretation, "Governor Wheelchair" is clear cut political nicknaming.

2. I read this as professing that pro-life/anti-abortion people believe that pregnant women are all parasites/sluts.

3. I read this as saying that conservatives believe rape to be legitimate, as inflammatory a statement as you can get.

At the very least, if possible, I would like to know why none of them are actionable.

Hey
Im sorry if the "governor wheelchair" comment upset you first of all. Those second two comments look like pretty egregious rulebreaking to me, but thats not what im here to say. What im here to say is "governor wheelchair" may be a poor taste thing to say, and I certainly regret saying it, butI dont think its a violation of the rules, and if it is, its a small one at best. That said, I shouldn't have done it due to its poor taste and I am sorry.

Now to the mod officiating here, I can understand if I get a warning for this, but I do not feel like its necessary as I have learned my lesson on my own. I understand that I have a history of flaming due to social problems that I deal with and a short temper that I suffer with inside and outside of NSG. This has lead to me taking breaks from the game and breaks from the debate forums to prevent me from flaming. This is why I feel like a warning for this would be unnecessary.

[Frisbeeteria]

With respect, I would like to request a second opinion for all of my reports.

1) I don't see a specific ruling on that one, so I'll rule that one as trolling. *** Catholic America is warned for trolling ***
2 and 3) I'm upholding the ruling here. You are conflating "some" with "all" in both cases. There is no question that some members of the group hold those opinions, and there is equally no question that all members of the group are not equally culpable.

I understand that I have a history of flaming due to social problems that I deal with and a short temper that I suffer with inside and outside of NSG.

Not a valid excuse. There is nothing preventing you from removing your hands from the keyboard. It's good that you're learning the lessons. Now try applying what you've learned to your interactions here.

[Catholic America]

With respect, I would like to request a second opinion for all of my reports.

1) I don't see a specific ruling on that one, so I'll rule that one as trolling. *** Catholic America is warned for trolling ***
2 and 3) I'm upholding the ruling here. You are conflating "some" with "all" in both cases. There is no question that some members of the group hold those opinions, and there is equally no question that all members of the group are not equally culpable.

I understand that I have a history of flaming due to social problems that I deal with and a short temper that I suffer with inside and outside of NSG.

Not a valid excuse. There is nothing preventing you from removing your hands from the keyboard. It's good that you're learning the lessons. Now try applying what you've learned to your interactions here.

its not an excuse, its context, but i an going to respect your ruling.

[Godular]

And what of my report? There was some pretty flagrant namecalling, unless I missed some important context.

[Sedgistan]

Addressed.

I am going to lock this report thread, as I think it would be simpler to handle future reports of potential offences in the Roe v Wade thread in their own separate report threads. It lessens the chance of things getting missed.