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[R] Hot takes discussion thread

Postby Port Caverton » Thu May 05, 2022 6:11 pm

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Postby State of Imperial Russia » Thu May 05, 2022 6:13 pm

He was justifying literal terrorism, and as such I responded appropriately. How would you react? I'm not going to try to be nice to someone like that...especially someone like that.

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Postby Port Caverton » Thu May 05, 2022 6:14 pm

State of Imperial Russia wrote:He was justifying literal terrorism, and as such I responded appropriately. How would you react?

You were literally saying that killing 100,000 chechens was ok because some of them were terrorists
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Postby State of Imperial Russia » Thu May 05, 2022 6:15 pm

Port Caverton wrote:
State of Imperial Russia wrote:He was justifying literal terrorism, and as such I responded appropriately. How would you react?

You were literally saying that killing 100,000 chechens was ok because some of them were terrorists


No? I specifically pointed out that the Chechens weren't innocent either (refer to the thread).
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Postby Port Caverton » Thu May 05, 2022 6:18 pm

State of Imperial Russia wrote:
Port Caverton wrote:You were literally saying that killing 100,000 chechens was ok because some of them were terrorists


No? I specifically pointed out that the Chechens weren't innocent either (refer to the thread).

I don't see how killing 100,000 chechens is justified in any case though. Plus you only pointed out terrorist attacks.
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Postby State of Imperial Russia » Thu May 05, 2022 6:19 pm

Port Caverton wrote:
State of Imperial Russia wrote:
No? I specifically pointed out that the Chechens weren't innocent either (refer to the thread).

I don't see how killing 100,000 chechens is justified in any case though. Plus you only pointed out terrorist attacks.


What did you think I'd point out when I mentioned them being NOT innocent? Them being friendly? NOR DID I SAY KILLING ALL OF THE CHECHENS WAS JUSTIFIED.
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Postby Port Caverton » Thu May 05, 2022 6:20 pm

State of Imperial Russia wrote:
Port Caverton wrote:I don't see how killing 100,000 chechens is justified in any case though. Plus you only pointed out terrorist attacks.


What did you think I'd point out when I mentioned them being NOT innocent? Them being friendly? NOR DID I SAY KILLING ALL OF THE CHECHENS WAS JUSTIFIED.

How is some of them being terrorists a justification for killing 100k chechens.
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Postby State of Imperial Russia » Thu May 05, 2022 6:21 pm

Port Caverton wrote:
State of Imperial Russia wrote:
What did you think I'd point out when I mentioned them being NOT innocent? Them being friendly? NOR DID I SAY KILLING ALL OF THE CHECHENS WAS JUSTIFIED.

How is some of them being terrorists a justification for killing 100k chechens.


I never said it was justified, though. I said, were I Putin, I would've given Chechnya to its neighboring republics, not "Kill all the Chechens", as you are trying to portray.
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Postby Port Caverton » Thu May 05, 2022 6:25 pm

State of Imperial Russia wrote:
Port Caverton wrote:How is some of them being terrorists a justification for killing 100k chechens.


I never said it was justified, though. I said, were I Putin, I would've given Chechnya to its neighboring republics, not "Kill all the Chechens", as you are trying to portray.

You said (w/ context):

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Afrikan Staat wrote:Russians killed 100.000 Chechens.


And the Chechens attacked a school. They are NOT innocent in any sort of way. Three-hundred and thirty-three dead. Not just adults either, CHILDREN too.


You are trying to justify the deaths of one hundred thousand Chechens because of what some people did after the Russian gov killed hem.
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Postby State of Imperial Russia » Thu May 05, 2022 6:26 pm

Port Caverton wrote:
State of Imperial Russia wrote:
I never said it was justified, though. I said, were I Putin, I would've given Chechnya to its neighboring republics, not "Kill all the Chechens", as you are trying to portray.

You said (w/ context):

State of Imperial Russia wrote:
And the Chechens attacked a school. They are NOT innocent in any sort of way. Three-hundred and thirty-three dead. Not just adults either, CHILDREN too.


You are trying to justify the deaths of one hundred thousand Chechens because of what some people did after the Russian gov killed hem.


Again, for the third time, you misunderstand me. I said the Chechens weren't innocent as in, they weren't the innocent people he was trying to depict them as. Never once did I say "the Chechens deserved it", not even in the slightest manner.

EDIT: When I mean CHECHEN, I mean the CHECHEN GOVERNMENT. NOT THE CHECHEN ETHNIC GROUP.
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