[R] trolling, tdt

[Necroghastia]

Also not only does the speech attempt to liken affirming trans kids to the Rotherham Grooming Gangs, it also claims that the current state of affairs is "too ideological".

People forget that Rotherham probably would have never happened if it weren't for the wrong sorts of people being let into the UK in the first place. Those responsible were nearly all of Pakistani origins. But the UK pretends that this little detail somehow doesn't matter?

Feels like Sai's edging a lil close to claiming Pakistanis are inherently... well. You know.

[Saiwania]

It's not a case of "all X are Y" in my view, if what happened is part of the historical record for what was being talked about. Google says as much that the majority of those involved weren't native Britons but were from Pakistan if not had family from there.

It is only an ideological solution that if my politics had it's way in the UK, that they wouldn't have been allowed into the country for immigration, hence many of them wouldn't have been born there if their parents were still in Pakistan or somewhere else.

Yes, while it may be unfortunate that some people would lose out as a result of the policies I favor, that is true of all zero sum situations and it simply gives me more peace of mind if from my perspective, the greater good or more desired outcome is being achieved.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion ... e20335529/

Here is a source backing up my assertions.

Also note how I veered back on topic in the other half of my post, as soon as I put that matter to rest. Disagreements over politics should be no cause to delete or sanction me. There is nothing wrong with the post if taken into context.

[Giovenith]

While I don't condone what was said, I am ruling non-actionable as, "All those who did Y were X" is a different sort of claim from, "All X do Y." It's definitely treading the line though.

[Untecna]

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Also not only does the speech attempt to liken affirming trans kids to the Rotherham Grooming Gangs, it also claims that the current state of affairs is "too ideological".

People forget that Rotherham probably would have never happened if it weren't for the wrong sorts of people being let into the UK in the first place. Those responsible were nearly all of Pakistani origins. But the UK pretends that this little detail somehow doesn't matter?

I have a good feeling that conservatives throughout the western world are going to ultimately win the culture wars, so naturally I'm going to be in favor of any LGBT agendas that get undone over time.

Bold mine. Sai here seems to be making some very unkosher statements about ethnicity.

[The Archregimancy]

The bolded section of the reported post - 'Those responsible were nearly all of Pakistani origins' - is, for better or for worse, a simple statement of fact - even if he seems to have confused Rochdale and Rotherham. The overwhelming majority of those responsible for the Rotherham child exploitation scandal were indeed of Pakistani origin.

The Times articles, along with the 2012 trial of the Rochdale child sex abuse ring, prompted the House of Commons Home Affairs Committee to conduct hearings. Following this and further articles from Norfolk, Rotherham Council commissioned an independent inquiry led by Professor Alexis Jay. In August 2014 the Jay report concluded that an estimated 1,400 children, had been sexually abused in Rotherham between 1997 and 2013 by predominantly British-Pakistani men.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotherham ... on_scandal

You are, of course, free to disagree with Saiwania's conclusions about British immigration stemming from this observation, and/or to point out that he has confused Rochdale and Rotherham, and/or to point out that a 2020 UK Home Office study concluded that 'there are no grounds for asserting that Muslim or Pakistani-heritage men are disproportionately engaged in such crimes' (bottom of same link) - in other words, Rotherham was the exception rather than the rule when it came to the ethnic identity of the grooming gang - but the core observation being reported here is factually accurate (leaving aside the Rochdale/Rotherham confusion) and therefore cannot be construed as trolling.

[New Visayan Islands]

Merging two separate threads reporting the same post.

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