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Postby Radicalania » Sat May 15, 2021 12:03 pm

What effect will this have on RP regions? And does this extend to forum posting?

Edit: what about fascists in general, are we finally rid of them or do we have to raid them ourselves?
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Postby Reploid Productions » Sat May 15, 2021 12:05 pm

Alcala-Cordel wrote:Nice!

On a side note, will there be any changes to Nazi nations and regions not containing the word?

If you see any that we missed, please shoot us a GHR. Our initial review covered "Nazi" and "Reich" names due to ease of search, as well as a few well-known cases without either of those, but we're expecting there are probably plenty of Nazi-flavored malicious content nations/regions out there that search missed.
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Postby Outer Sparta » Sat May 15, 2021 12:08 pm

For nations that were previously in the cleared Nazi regions, they've been automatically ejected to TRR. But the nation happenings feed is bugged and the descriptions say only this:

89 minutes ago: 1.
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Postby Jar Wattinree » Sat May 15, 2021 12:09 pm

Outer Sparta wrote:For nations that were previously in the cleared Nazi regions, they've been automatically ejected to TRR. But the nation happenings feed is bugged and the descriptions say only this:

89 minutes ago: 1.

That's typical of moderator intervention.
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Postby Wascoitan » Sat May 15, 2021 12:13 pm

good job mods, possibly the best decision you've ever made
Portog wrote:So by definition we should also ban stalinists and maoists as they hate the kulaks and rich upper class

oh please, don't even act like these are remotely the same thing, first of all nazis are targeting people who straight up cannot change who they are (such as LGBT people and racial minorities) this stuff can not be changed, it seems pretty damn easy to stop being rich upper class especially if communist have gained power in your country, ya just let them redistribute your wealth. second of all communist aren't targeting and debating the individual rich people's right to be alive, they are arguing that they shouldn't have so much wealth while so much of the world population is dying from things that they could easily fix if they wanted to (such as hunger, preventable diseases, etc.)
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Postby Foril » Sat May 15, 2021 12:15 pm

I applaud the moderating team's decision. Nazism is an ideology filled with hate and intolerance, and should not have a place here.
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Postby Outer Sparta » Sat May 15, 2021 12:15 pm

Jar Wattinree wrote:
Outer Sparta wrote:For nations that were previously in the cleared Nazi regions, they've been automatically ejected to TRR. But the nation happenings feed is bugged and the descriptions say only this:

89 minutes ago: 1.

That's typical of moderator intervention.

Hmm, it's not something I've ever seen before. Regardless, I do applaud the moderation with the actions taken.
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Postby Jaaaaaake » Sat May 15, 2021 12:24 pm

Question: what happens to the ejected nations? Some of them probably got DEAT coz of the filter, but what about the others? Can they currently not access their nations? Will they get DEAT eventually? Are they able to move out of TRR? Will they get moved into one region (TRR 2: Electric Boogaloo) and obliterated in one fell swoop?

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Postby Neutraligon » Sat May 15, 2021 12:26 pm

Jaaaaaake wrote:Question: what happens to the ejected nations? Some of them probably got DEAT coz of the filter, but what about the others? Can they currently not access their nations? Will they get DEAT eventually? Are they able to move out of TRR? Will they get moved into one region (TRR 2: Electric Boogaloo) and obliterated in one fell swoop?

Those who have not been DEATed still exist and have been sent to the rejected realms.
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Sat May 15, 2021 12:28 pm

One has to wonder if this is a diktat from the shiny-headed overlord or the modcave's campfire has been using fuel that produces psychedelic fumes. What a peculiar decision for a site with a large RP community and an erstwhile longstanding policy on the debating side that any political perspective could in theory be argued while staying within the rules. Quite the change in direction and I hope that it's not the thin end of the wedge in terms of further moves towards censorship. If the reasoning is really a concern for rules violations slipping past the moderators due to insufficient resources to proactively moderate, I wonder how long it will be until we see clumsy automated tools such as word filters and changers on the forum proper to reduce this burden of workload further.
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In regards to banning

Postby Terra Gloria Sanctus » Sat May 15, 2021 12:30 pm

Does this include words associated with "Nazi" such as "fascism"? How close does it have to be to "Nazi" before it gets too close? Also, if you don't mind me asking in this forum, why was Numerous Currencies banned, and was he puppet swept?

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Postby Reploid Productions » Sat May 15, 2021 12:33 pm

Terra Gloria Sanctus wrote:Does this include words associated with "Nazi" such as "fascism"? How close does it have to be to "Nazi" before it gets too close? Also, if you don't mind me asking in this forum, why was Numerous Currencies banned, and was he puppet swept?

While all Nazis are fascists, not all fascists are Nazis (even though in practice most seem to be.) In some cases, puppetsweeps were enacted due to prior player history.
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Postby Tinhampton » Sat May 15, 2021 12:35 pm

Will any of the deleted regions receive direct moderator puppet oversight at some point after they CTE this major update, as the region of Nazi itself currently does?
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Postby Calamari Lands » Sat May 15, 2021 12:37 pm

Very glad to see this change, thanks to the team for doing this.
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Postby Sedgistan » Sat May 15, 2021 12:43 pm

Tinhampton wrote:Will any of the deleted regions receive direct moderator puppet oversight at some point after they CTE this major update, as the region of Nazi itself currently does?

It's not necessary for "nazi" ones as that is prohibited in region names. In other cases of regions we have emptied, it is not at present planned to impose mod founders. However, should those regions be refounded for the same purposes as before, then we may consider it.

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Postby Imperial Hydra » Sat May 15, 2021 12:44 pm

Reploid Productions wrote:
Terra Gloria Sanctus wrote:Does this include words associated with "Nazi" such as "fascism"? How close does it have to be to "Nazi" before it gets too close? Also, if you don't mind me asking in this forum, why was Numerous Currencies banned, and was he puppet swept?

While all Nazis are fascists, not all fascists are Nazis (even though in practice most seem to be.) In some cases, puppetsweeps were enacted due to prior player history.


May I ask for further clarification on if Numerous Currencies is DOS?

I am confused to why he was banned in the first place.

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Postby Sedgistan » Sat May 15, 2021 12:45 pm

Imperial Hydra wrote:May I ask for further clarification on if Numerous Currencies is DOS?

I am confused to why he was banned in the first place.

They are not, at present, DOS. That's all the information we would release.

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Postby Comfed » Sat May 15, 2021 12:51 pm

Well, I’m glad to see this.

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Postby LollerLand » Sat May 15, 2021 12:58 pm

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Postby Kavagrad » Sat May 15, 2021 1:05 pm

Glad to see this, even if it is about 18 years too late.
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Postby Sodoran Alesia » Sat May 15, 2021 1:13 pm

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Postby Grenartia » Sat May 15, 2021 1:25 pm

Out of curiosity, does the block avoid the Scunthorpe problem? I.e., if someone decides to do a keysmash nation, and comes up with "snazi", would that be blocked?
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Postby Nova Vandalia » Sat May 15, 2021 1:31 pm

Thank you to the Mods and anyone involved in making this decision a reality.
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Postby Sedgistan » Sat May 15, 2021 1:54 pm

Grenartia wrote:Out of curiosity, does the block avoid the Scunthorpe problem? I.e., if someone decides to do a keysmash nation, and comes up with "snazi", would that be blocked?

Anything with "nazi" in is blocked. There's very few Scunthorpes for that term, but Internazionale fans are in trouble; evidence of a clear mod-bias in favour of AC Milan.

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