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by Mathuvan Union » Tue May 04, 2021 4:59 am
The Blaatschapen wrote:Paying the mods isn't an option. Besides the vast amounts of money needed (even on minimum wage), it would be a tremendous bureaucratic headache. From insurance to taxes.
by New Visayan Islands » Tue May 04, 2021 5:48 am
Mathuvan Union wrote:The Blaatschapen wrote:Paying the mods isn't an option. Besides the vast amounts of money needed (even on minimum wage), it would be a tremendous bureaucratic headache. From insurance to taxes.
Yes, yes, and yes.
Because the site is legally Australian, the minimum wage is $19.48, which is: €12.72 and £12.72 as well.
Not to mention a whole check in-check out system for the mods would have to be added into the game.
And like, how this is entirely non-feasable playing out $2,000 a day to the mods overall.
Far too much money.
Christmas bonuses per ban...
by The Holy Therns » Tue May 04, 2021 6:00 am
Greater Miami Shores wrote:Moderators Paid $ - Poster Fees $. I have always wanted to discuss this, during the old Co UK Forum Days, the Moderators tried to get Payed $ for their work. There was a discussion that Posters should Pay $ a monthly fee to Participate and help the Moderators get Payed $ for their work? I strongly supported both options with my Posts on the Moderators Forum. Your feelings about the Moderators should not count on your Posts. At times I have strongly disagreed with their decisions and at times I have strongly agreed with their decisions, Sedgistan is right I deserved my one day ban for Spam, adding non related comments to my thank you post response on the Moderators Forum, I hope I have learned my lesson this time the hard way, Sedgistan did the right thing and I thank him for it. The Moderators do a lot of work as Moderators and are understaffed and they should be Payed $ for their work? The commercials that appear on NS that Pay $ for the site can Pay $ for their work?
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by The New California Republic » Tue May 04, 2021 10:16 am
Greater Miami Shores wrote:[...] but I really strongly believe they should get Paid $ for their work [...]
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by Greater Miami Shores » Tue May 04, 2021 11:33 am
The New California Republic wrote:Greater Miami Shores wrote:[...] but I really strongly believe they should get Paid $ for their work [...]
I mean...you can strongly believe that all you like, but it's not going to happen, as the only way to make it happen would be to start drawing in a lot of revenue from a new source. The three main ways of making that happen will likely never happen due to various reasons: more advertising (to the kind of level where the site would just look utterly obnoxious and be filled with the worst kinds of cookies and trackers imaginable), pay-to-play (which would make most people here jump ship, aside from the few hardcore players), or have a store selling all manner of merchandise (but that would be Max Barry's decision alone, and since he hasn't done it in the past couple of decades then I doubt that he'd go down that route now).
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by Kashimura » Tue May 04, 2021 2:02 pm
by Mathuvan Union » Tue May 04, 2021 5:25 pm
New Visayan Islands wrote:Mathuvan Union wrote:Yes, yes, and yes.
Because the site is legally Australian, the minimum wage is $19.48, which is: €12.72 and £12.72 as well.
Not to mention a whole check in-check out system for the mods would have to be added into the game.
And like, how this is entirely non-feasable playing out $2,000 a day to the mods overall.
Far too much money.
Christmas bonuses per ban...
Point of order: AUD 19.48 would be USD 15.01, EUR 12.49, and GBP 10.84 at current exchange rates.
That being said, the TL;DR is that the logistics behind paying the mods would be a major, major PITA. Lamoni is right: this would kill NS.
by Greater Miami Shores » Tue May 04, 2021 5:35 pm
Kashimura wrote:You guys are forgetting the best part: If you pay the mods, they’d probably need quotas to back up fair payment. If you incentivize punishment by implementing warning quotas, that means they’d have to rule harsher and harder to justify staying on the payroll.
I propose we keep feeding the mods instead, for fear they become hangry.
by Coicantrost Terbi » Tue May 04, 2021 5:59 pm
by Greater Miami Shores » Tue May 04, 2021 6:11 pm
Coicantrost Terbi wrote:I have been on this site on and off (mostly as a lurker) for about a decade now. NS has always been a relatively small site with minimal resources and clout. Hell, the forum uses free software that is way out of date. And only about 10% of all "nations" are part of the forum, which in turn is dominated by only a small fraction of those "nations." NS has always been small potatoes when compared to the likes of 4chan and even the majority of subreddits. It's a tiny niche of only a few hundred active posters. On top of that, NS has been slowly dying as is for the past few years. The forums are a lot less lively than they were say 6-7 years ago. Adding an unnecessary fee will only outright kill the forum.
On top of that, there really is no reason to the pay the mods on this site. Aside from the fact that they don't want to be paid, they have a very light workload that really doesn't warrant pay or any kind of benefits. They mostly just deal with teenage shitposters, the likes of the Banana Kid, and the occasional porn spammer. This is absolutely nothing when compared to the absolute nightmares that the mods on Facebook, YouTube, Twitter, Instagram, and Reddit have to deal with on a daily basis.
by Aikoland » Tue May 04, 2021 6:35 pm
Greater Miami Shores wrote:Coicantrost Terbi wrote:I have been on this site on and off (mostly as a lurker) for about a decade now. NS has always been a relatively small site with minimal resources and clout. Hell, the forum uses free software that is way out of date. And only about 10% of all "nations" are part of the forum, which in turn is dominated by only a small fraction of those "nations." NS has always been small potatoes when compared to the likes of 4chan and even the majority of subreddits. It's a tiny niche of only a few hundred active posters. On top of that, NS has been slowly dying as is for the past few years. The forums are a lot less lively than they were say 6-7 years ago. Adding an unnecessary fee will only outright kill the forum.
On top of that, there really is no reason to the pay the mods on this site. Aside from the fact that they don't want to be paid, they have a very light workload that really doesn't warrant pay or any kind of benefits. They mostly just deal with teenage shitposters, the likes of the Banana Kid, and the occasional porn spammer. This is absolutely nothing when compared to the absolute nightmares that the mods on Facebook, YouTube, Twitter, Instagram, and Reddit have to deal with on a daily basis.
The Moderator forum is the busiest forum on NS, they should get Paid $ for their work.
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