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[Q] Contradictory rulings

PostPosted: Sat May 01, 2021 9:41 pm
by Nilokeras
Reposting this here after several days of silence in the original thread. A post of mine was reported for flamebaiting and ruled as such by Giovenith. Several hours after that ruling Farnhamia posted in the report thread to rule that it was not in fact actionable.

I have two questions:

1.) Farnhamia has confirmed that they were ruling on the original post and seemingly did not see Giovenith's ruling. My warning record currently stands at 2 to reflect Giovenith's warning. Does this mean that the warning will be struck from the record if there is disagreement?

2.) Why has it taken moderation almost four days to address this relatively straightforward query? Giovenith, Farnhamia and other moderators have posted in other moderation threads since and it is concerning that the thread was either not paid attention to by moderation staff or that it was seen and no update or even cursory acknowledgement was posted to indicate that a formal response was forthcoming.

PostPosted: Sat May 01, 2021 11:03 pm
by Jebslund
Nilokeras wrote:Reposting this here after several days of silence in the original thread. A post of mine was reported for flamebaiting and ruled as such by Giovenith. Several hours after that ruling Farnhamia posted in the report thread to rule that it was not in fact actionable.

I have two questions:

1.) Farnhamia has confirmed that they were ruling on the original post and seemingly did not see Giovenith's ruling. My warning record currently stands at 2 to reflect Giovenith's warning. Does this mean that the warning will be struck from the record if there is disagreement?

2.) Why has it taken moderation almost four days to address this relatively straightforward query? Giovenith, Farnhamia and other moderators have posted in other moderation threads since and it is concerning that the thread was either not paid attention to by moderation staff or that it was seen and no update or even cursory acknowledgement was posted to indicate that a formal response was forthcoming.

It's not uncommon for threads in moderation to spark behind-the-scenes discussions amongst the mods that we regular users are not made privy to. I don't necessarily agree to the lack of notification, even if I understand the likely reasons for it, but the common thing to do here is just wait. My guess is that Gio and Farn are debating whether or not the post is actually actionable, so no further rulings are being made on the matter until an agreement is reached. Note that that would mean they have to know that they are in agreement, and possibly have other mods weigh in, meaning both have to see each other's posts, and those of any other mods involved in getting it sorted, in the Sekrit Lair, meaning a seemingly straightforward issue could take much longer than you'd think. It's not uncommon for such a discussion to take a week or more to resolve.

/notamod

PostPosted: Sat May 01, 2021 11:12 pm
by Nilokeras
Jebslund wrote:/notamod


That much is obvious. Why you felt the need to go out of your way to offer idle speculation on their behalf, however, is beyond me.

PostPosted: Sat May 01, 2021 11:17 pm
by Katganistan
Ruling has been reviewed and explained in the original thread. Giovenith's ruling stands. We apologize for the wait.

PostPosted: Sat May 01, 2021 11:44 pm
by Jebslund
Nilokeras wrote:
Jebslund wrote:/notamod


That much is obvious. Why you felt the need to go out of your way to offer idle speculation on their behalf, however, is beyond me.

It is a question thread. Those are not mod-only threads. If you don't like the answer, you can ignore it. There is no need to get snippy.

PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2021 2:28 pm
by Farnhamia
Katganistan wrote:Ruling has been reviewed and explained in the original thread. Giovenith's ruling stands. We apologize for the wait.

I did, in fact, miss Gio's ruling on the original reported post. All that garish Red-Text, don't you know.

PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2021 6:34 pm
by Katganistan
Farnhamia wrote:
Katganistan wrote:Ruling has been reviewed and explained in the original thread. Giovenith's ruling stands. We apologize for the wait.

I did, in fact, miss Gio's ruling on the original reported post. All that garish Red-Text, don't you know.


Yup, explained that in the original thread.