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Postby Glorious Hong Kong » Tue Apr 27, 2021 2:03 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
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Which would prove my point that the Muslim world is extremely intolerant and violent. Do you want Pakistan to nuke Israel? Do you really want to let these extremists blackmail the rest of the world into giving them what they want?


Tbqh I really wouldn't care if Pakistan dropped the bomb on Israel. I'm pretty sure I've advocated doing just that more than once even.


Trolling: Advocating genocide
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Postby Punished UMN » Thu Apr 29, 2021 6:33 pm

Glorious Hong Kong wrote:
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Tbqh I really wouldn't care if Pakistan dropped the bomb on Israel. I'm pretty sure I've advocated doing just that more than once even.


Trolling: Advocating genocide

Pot, meet kettle:

Uh, the Arabs do have complete freedom and citizenship in Israel. What "ghettos" are you referring to? Do you consider Ramallah a "ghetto"? How do you expect them to have a viable state when they keep murdering people? And more often than not, these Arabs are expelled for a valid reason. Either they didn't have a permit, or they committed an act of terror or something. Either way, they have no right to be there and Israel has every right to move them on.

And Gaza's already an independent state. Maybe if they were a little more peaceful and tolerant and actually negotiated in good faith instead of constantly reneging on their promises, calling for the deaths of Jews and the destruction of Israel, and using Islam and the status of the Temple Mount as an excuse to break off any talks just as a breakthrough is imminent, the Palestinians just might have something resembling a state. Or they can just clear out to Jordan en masse. No one's forcing them to stay.


viewtopic.php?p=38602608#p38602608

As long as there is no peace agreement and Palestinian aggression continues unabated, Israel is justified in expanding existing settlements and creating "facts on the ground" until or unless an agreement is reached. Israel rightly won the disputed territories in a war of national self-defense. It has already ceded Gaza. Judea & Samaria is theirs to do with as they please.


viewtopic.php?f=20&t=503966&p=38602676#p38602676

"Facts on the ground" is a well-known euphemism for using military force to change the demographics of a region in order to expand one's sovereignty.

If the Palestinians won't negotiate, then they deserve absolutely nothing and I consider them fair game.


I support the inalienable right to national self-determination of the Kurdish people to a state all of their own, even if some ethnic Arabs end up getting expelled by the YPG in the process. Self-determination isn't always a tidy affair. When India and Pakistan gained their independence, the Partition proved deadly to people on both sides.


Pretty clearly saying that he considers it justified to kill those who aren't playing the political game he wants
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Apr 29, 2021 6:39 pm

OP has regularly advocated for the destruction of the Peoples Republic of China, an act which would kill many millions of people even if we're conservative about the estimates. If hyperbolic expressions of disdain towards a state entity are now trolling then almost every regular user on NSG is guilty of it.
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Postby Glorious Hong Kong » Thu Apr 29, 2021 9:32 pm

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Trolling: Advocating genocide

Pot, meet kettle:

Uh, the Arabs do have complete freedom and citizenship in Israel. What "ghettos" are you referring to? Do you consider Ramallah a "ghetto"? How do you expect them to have a viable state when they keep murdering people? And more often than not, these Arabs are expelled for a valid reason. Either they didn't have a permit, or they committed an act of terror or something. Either way, they have no right to be there and Israel has every right to move them on.

And Gaza's already an independent state. Maybe if they were a little more peaceful and tolerant and actually negotiated in good faith instead of constantly reneging on their promises, calling for the deaths of Jews and the destruction of Israel, and using Islam and the status of the Temple Mount as an excuse to break off any talks just as a breakthrough is imminent, the Palestinians just might have something resembling a state. Or they can just clear out to Jordan en masse. No one's forcing them to stay.


So where have I called for Palestinians to be exterminated, "re-educated", sterilized, nuked to death, or forced to abandon their language, faith, culture, and customs? It's not trolling to call for illegal immigrants and settlers to be deported.

The second underlined part is a suggestion addressed to the Palestinians themselves, not the IDF.

https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=38602608#p38602608

As long as there is no peace agreement and Palestinian aggression continues unabated, Israel is justified in expanding existing settlements and creating "facts on the ground" until or unless an agreement is reached. Israel rightly won the disputed territories in a war of national self-defense. It has already ceded Gaza. Judea & Samaria is theirs to do with as they please.


viewtopic.php?f=20&t=503966&p=38602676#p38602676

"Facts on the ground" is a well-known euphemism for using military force to change the demographics of a region in order to expand one's sovereignty.


That's not what I mean by it. "Facts on the ground" refers to the peaceful building and expanding of settlements, particularly of the major blocs near the pre-1967 "border". It has nothing to do with military force, let alone expulsions.

If the Palestinians won't negotiate, then they deserve absolutely nothing and I consider them fair game.


Fair game in the sense that illegal immigrants are fair game for border agencies.

I support the inalienable right to national self-determination of the Kurdish people to a state all of their own, even if some ethnic Arabs end up getting expelled by the YPG in the process. Self-determination isn't always a tidy affair. When India and Pakistan gained their independence, the Partition proved deadly to people on both sides.


These are historical references, not explicit calls to genocide.

Pretty clearly saying that he considers it justified to kill those who aren't playing the political game he wants
viewtopic.php?p=38602837#p38602837


I have done no such thing anywhere in that post. Unlike you, I have not at any point called for anyone to be killed. You, on the other hand, have clearly done so when you said you didn't mind if the Israelis get nuked, which would involve millions of deaths.

Washington Resistance Army wrote:OP has regularly advocated for the destruction of the Peoples Republic of China, an act which would kill many millions of people even if we're conservative about the estimates. If hyperbolic expressions of disdain towards a state entity are now trolling then almost every regular user on NSG is guilty of it.


I said that the PRC as a communist entity should be destroyed or defeated, not China as a nation. At no point have I advocated the extermination of Chinese people. You, on the other hand, have clearly advocated the extermination of the Jewish people in a nuclear strike. You said you don't care if Jews and Israelis die by the millions.

This is my defense. I'll stop here and let the mods respond.
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