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I've seen a recent moderation decision where linking to furry porn site is okay as long it links directly to a non-porn content.
Would it be okay then to link a non-h gallery from exhentai?

That....is not what Fris said. He said he looked through the website in question and found no evidence of porn posted on it and no links to actual porn websites on it.

Don't waste our time with stupid questions, Miku the Based. If you're not going to take the time to read and understand Moderators' posts, then it's about time you stopped posting in Moderation.

Sedgistan wrote:Don't waste our time with stupid questions, Miku the Based. If you're not going to take the time to read and understand Moderators' posts, then it's about time you stopped posting in Moderation.

I did not post this in moderation. It was moved there by someone.

Also, there was link to porn site on there, must be blind.

Miku the Based wrote:I did not post this in moderation

No, you incorrectly posted a rules question in Technical. It was moved to Moderation where rules questions belong.

Sedge's response still applies, as my initial response that you were asking about was in a Moderation thread.

Miku the Based wrote:

Sedgistan wrote:Don't waste our time with stupid questions, Miku the Based. If you're not going to take the time to read and understand Moderators' posts, then it's about time you stopped posting in Moderation.

I did not post this in moderation. It was moved there by someone.

Also, there was link to porn site on there, must be blind.

/notamod;notaruling

There were no links to porn sites in the post being asked about in that thread (I checked before making my own post in that moderation thread). Fur Affinity is an imageboard that has porn on it, not a porn site (most images on there are SFW. You need an account to even have the option to see any porn).

I will also refer you to Fris's post, specifically the part relevant to your question about exhentai (which has hentai in the name, dude.):

Frisbeeteria wrote:

Jebslund wrote:To expand, would linking to sites with NSFW sections (or other readily accessible NSFW material) be a violation of PG-13 even if the linked pages are free of such content?

You know we don't rule on hypotheticals. We can't make a generalized ruling that applies to all cases. Some time ago, someone posted a link to some "educational topic" on Pornhub. While the link itself did not have any specific offensive content, the rest of the site (including all links) was devoted exclusively to pornography. That was ruled not acceptable.

Hypotheticals, as Fris reminded me, are not ruled on. Exhentai, however, logically falls under the 'rest of the site is devoted to pornography' bit. Non-H galleries are the exception, not the rule, on exhentai.

EDIT: Worth noting, I am logged in on Fur Affinity and do have adult content enabled, and I saw no pornographic content on the linked page. I do use both Ublock and NoScript, though, so, if there were ads, I did not see them.

I'm going to get banned for posting links to porn but it's on the linked page, you don't need a account to see it. Hint: it's immediately after

© 2005-2021 Frost Dragon Art LLC

Not falling for the ploy and I trust you have eyes.

Miku the Based wrote:I'm going to get banned for posting links to porn but it's on the linked page, you don't need a account to see it. Hint: it's immediately after

© 2005-2021 Frost Dragon Art LLC

Not falling for the ploy and I trust you have eyes.

Not seeing anything but info links there. Do you use adblock?

I feel like the fact that the hentai website that the OP asked if they could link 'non-h content from' literally has pornographic advertisements regardless of if the thing you're viewing is for adult's-only or SFW should be enough to just nip this thread in the bud.

And, yeah, FurAffinity does have adult content on it (all of which, as has already been said, you literally need to be logged in and have enabled to even see), but it does not have any form of pornographic advertisement, much less pornographic advertisements when viewing SFW images.

Seriously trying to treat FurAffinity as equivalent to an actual porn site by the OP is completely disingenuous. It'd be like doing the same thing with DeviantArt because that also has mature/adult content on it. It's not the focus of either site.

Aikoland wrote: it does not have any form of pornographic advertisement, much less pornographic advertisements when viewing SFW images.

Straight up a lie.

Seriously trying to treat FurAffinity as equivalent to an actual porn site by the OP is completely disingenuous.

Explain. When the link itself contains porn on the webpage I assume it is porn site or host porn content.
(édit: they do in fact advertise nsfw links that is hosted on FurAffinity website on that sfw link, much in the same way any porn site advertise nsfw links hosted on their own website even if original link does not contain any of such offending content. They have ads that link to https://rv.FurAffinity.net/live/... It's hosted by them and is on sfw links, you don't need a account to see them like I said before)

Miku the Based wrote:

Aikoland wrote: it does not have any form of pornographic advertisement, much less pornographic advertisements when viewing SFW images.

Straight up a lie.

Turned off my adblock and refreshed the main page of that particular site multiple times to generate new ads. Not seeing a single ad that contains any explicit pornographic images, nor any actual site content that is pornographic. Either you are visiting a totally different site or your interpretation of what is classed as "pornographic" is skewed.

The New California Republic wrote:

Miku the Based wrote:Straight up a lie.

Turned off my adblock and refreshed the main page of that particular site multiple times to generate new ads. Not seeing a single ad that contains any explicit pornographic images, nor any actual site content that is pornographic. Either you are visiting a totally different site or your interpretation of what is classed as "pornographic" is skewed.

Damn it, fine I'll fall for your ploy. Here's one of the examples.

https://rv.furaffinity.net/live/www/del ... osacake%2F
https://rv.furaffinity.net/live/www/del ... katoshy%2F
https://rv.furaffinity.net/live/www/del ... nemytal%2F
Reloaded page: saw another
https://rv.furaffinity.net/live/www/del ... Frefegi%2F

Mods feel free to delete the link. I'm dealing with disingenuous users here and this is proof. They all advertise as nsfw. I'm tired of the damn gaslighting.

Miku the Based wrote:

Aikoland wrote: it does not have any form of pornographic advertisement, much less pornographic advertisements when viewing SFW images.

Straight up a lie.

Seriously trying to treat FurAffinity as equivalent to an actual porn site by the OP is completely disingenuous.

Explain. When the link itself contains porn on the webpage I assume it is porn site or host porn content.
(édit: they do in fact advertise nsfw links that is hosted on FurAffinity website on that sfw link, much in the same way any porn site advertise nsfw links hosted on their own website even if original link does not contain any of such offending content. They have ads that link to https://rv.FurAffinity.net/live/... It's hosted by them and is on sfw links, you don't need a account to see them like I said before)

Sounds to me like you need to have your computer looked at. Clicking the link you posted gets me a 403 error. Manually typing /live/ after the website url generates an in-house 404, indicating that such a page simply doesn't exist. As I was typing this, I manually typed the url you gave and it lead to a login page for an adserver.

Either your browsing info is causing you to get a lot of porn ads, or you've got a virus that's causing a lot of malware ads to replace legitimate ads in your browser. Either way, FurAffinity is not a porn site unless you consider DeviantArt a porn site.

Miku the Based wrote:

The New California Republic wrote:Turned off my adblock and refreshed the main page of that particular site multiple times to generate new ads. Not seeing a single ad that contains any explicit pornographic images, nor any actual site content that is pornographic. Either you are visiting a totally different site or your interpretation of what is classed as "pornographic" is skewed.

Damn it, fine I'll fall for your ploy. Here's one of the examples.

[redacted for obvious reasons]

You need to be logged in to see that user's nsfw content. I just checked by logging out.

EDIT:

Miku the Based wrote:Mods feel free to delete the link. I'm dealing with disingenuous users here and this is proof. They all advertise as nsfw. I'm tired of the damn gaslighting.

They advertise as such because they make such content, but only their SFW content is visible unless you are logged in and have NSFW content set to be visible. You're not being gaslit. If things are different on your end, there is something wrong with your computer or browser, as has been explained to you multiple times. Edited this post instead of making another because MtB edited theirs instead of making a new post.

Miku the Based wrote:

The New California Republic wrote:Turned off my adblock and refreshed the main page of that particular site multiple times to generate new ads. Not seeing a single ad that contains any explicit pornographic images, nor any actual site content that is pornographic. Either you are visiting a totally different site or your interpretation of what is classed as "pornographic" is skewed.

Damn it, fine I'll fall for your ploy. Here's one of the examples.

https://rv.furaffinity.net/live/www/del ... osacake%2F

Mods feel free to delete the link. I'm dealing with disingenuous users here and this is proof.

Either you posted the wrong link or your interpretation of what constitutes pornography is skewed.

Jebslund wrote:

Miku the Based wrote:Damn it, fine I'll fall for your ploy. Here's one of the examples.

[redacted for obvious reasons]

You need to be logged in to see that user's nsfw content. I just checked by logging out.

Nope, a lie. Never had a account and I can see the offending content in full view.

Miku the Based wrote:

Jebslund wrote:You need to be logged in to see that user's nsfw content. I just checked by logging out.

Nope, a lie. Never had a account and I can see the offending content in full view.

As I just said above, not seeing any porn on that page. As Jebslund mentioned: perhaps check your computer for malware if you are seeing porn ads or nsfw material when nobody else is seeing it, and also possibly clear your browser cache and cookies.

EDIT: All the urls of those links you posted are really quite odd in their format and not direct links to the respective pages, it makes me suspect that there is something at your browser end that is screwing up somewhere.

I'm not even sure why the mods haven't locked this thread yet since I think it's clear to literally everyone that the OP is clearly not here to actually have a discussion in good faith considering their continued blatant lying about the website FurAffinity showing NSFW content to non-logged in users.

It's either that or they just think anything furry is automatically pornographic, which any person with two brain cells could tell you isn't true just like how not everything anime is automatically hentai..

Hamatu wrote:

Miku the Based wrote:I'm dealing with disingenuous users here and this is proof. They all advertise as nsfw. I'm tired of the damn gaslighting.

Wouldn't posting a link to a screenshot of what you're seeing work as possible evidence or proof?

I don't want copyright claim by these artists itching for a dmca so I'll be more specific and link to the some offending images in the external link I listed above. Mods are free to redact these links as well.
https://www.furaffinity.net/view/40711789/ remember the time you banned a user for hosting ahegao faces in NS, I don't but someone mentioned that to me when my original account got deleted for a word considered obscene.
https://www.furaffinity.net/view/24233924/ displaying genitalia does not seem pg-13, but I don't know, depends on how the authority figure feels at moment.
https://www.furaffinity.net/view/34246562/ something masturbating. I'm not sure if this is acceptable to host on this site much less link to a website that host it.
I guess I'm crazy and all of this is my imagination or that I'm infected with some malware like my detractors like to think.

Furry porn.. I’m against this already.

People being stupid and not labelling the stuff they post under the correct age rating doesn't make the site a pornographic website, it just means the users are stupid and don't know how to appropriately rate their art.

I can fucking search for 'breasts' on DeviantArt while having my account set to hide mature content and literally get shit I'd definitely say should be classified as mature, but I'm not gonna sit here like a goddamn maroon and claim that DEVIANTART IS A PORN SITE AND I SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO LINK TO PORNHUB VIDEOS IF PEOPLE CAN LINK TO THEIR DEVIANTART because, again, unlike a hentai website, websites like FurAffinity nor DeviantArt are not dedicated to pornography nor do they have actual fucking advertisements for pornographic websites or games on them.

Miku the Based wrote:

Hamatu wrote:Wouldn't posting a link to a screenshot of what you're seeing work as possible evidence or proof?

I don't want copyright claim by these artists itching for a dmca so I'll be more specific and link to the some offending images in the external link I listed above. Mods are free to redact these links as well.
https://www.furaffinity.net/view/40711789/ remember the time you banned a user for hosting ahegao faces in NS, I don't but someone mentioned that to me when my original account got deleted for a word considered obscene.
https://www.furaffinity.net/view/24233924/ displaying genitalia does not seem pg-13, but I don't know, depends on how the authority figure feels at moment.
https://www.furaffinity.net/view/34246562/ something masturbating. I'm not sure if this is acceptable to host on this site much less link to a website that host it.
I guess I'm crazy and all of this is my imagination or that I'm infected with some malware like my detractors like to think.

As someone who viewed all three of these links on their phone - which I’m going to have to burn along with my eyes now that it’s been contaminated - I can confirm that there is no malware/link redirecting/etc. involved.

The Dodo Republic wrote:Furry porn.. I’m against this already.

IKR? It’s unironically sad that this discussion even needs to take place - IMO if a site can’t be bothered to filter its content, it shouldn’t be linked to on NS given that there are minors who actively participate on this site - but NS will be NS and mods will be mods, so... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Aikoland wrote:People being stupid and not labelling the stuff they post under the correct age rating doesn't make the site a pornographic website, it just means the users are stupid and don't know how to appropriately rate their art.

I can fucking search for 'breasts' on DeviantArt while having my account set to hide mature content and literally get shit I'd definitely say should be classified as mature, but I'm not gonna sit here like a goddamn maroon and claim that DEVIANTART IS A PORN SITE AND I SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO LINK TO PORNHUB VIDEOS IF PEOPLE CAN LINK TO THEIR DEVIANTART because, again, unlike a hentai website, websites like FurAffinity nor DeviantArt are not dedicated to pornography nor do they have actual fucking advertisements for pornographic websites or games on them.

Yeah, hard agree.

Nepleslia wrote:

Miku the Based wrote:I don't want copyright claim by these artists itching for a dmca so I'll be more specific and link to the some offending images in the external link I listed above. Mods are free to redact these links as well.
[redacted] remember the time you banned a user for hosting ahegao faces in NS, I don't but someone mentioned that to me when my original account got deleted for a word considered obscene.
[redacted] displaying genitalia does not seem pg-13, but I don't know, depends on how the authority figure feels at moment.
[redacted] something masturbating. I'm not sure if this is acceptable to host on this site much less link to a website that host it.
I guess I'm crazy and all of this is my imagination or that I'm infected with some malware like my detractors like to think.

As someone who viewed all three of these links on their phone - which I’m going to have to burn along with my eyes now that it’s been contaminated - I can confirm that there is no malware/link redirecting/etc. involved.

The Dodo Republic wrote:Furry porn.. I’m against this already.

IKR? It’s unironically sad that this discussion even needs to take place - IMO if a site can’t be bothered to filter its content, it shouldn’t be linked to on NS given that there are minors who actively participate on this site - but NS will be NS and mods will be mods, so... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I mean, none of those images were in any of the links Miku the 'Based' posted originally. At least that I can tell.

Also, you can find porn pretty easily on Twitter, does that mean linking to even SFW posts from there should earn anyone an automatic ban?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't advertisements typically directed at a specific audience based on the individuals browser history and search engine history. Just the other day I looked up the name of a book and then I was getting advertisements to buy the book on another website. But like Jebsland said, it could be a virus and it would be a good idea to get your computer checked out by a professional. Viruses can create fake links/ads in hopes that you click on it. If it's a particularly bad virus you could end up opening yourself to vulnerability of the hacker stealing your passwords and personal info.

Grenartia wrote:Also, you can find porn pretty easily on Twitter, does that mean linking to even SFW posts from there should earn anyone an automatic ban?

Tbh using the train of thought that Miku is using, then even free image hosting sites that people regularly use on the forums, like imgbb and postimages for instance, would be verboten, as I'm sure if I did a trawl of both of them then I could find something on them that'd be pushing or breaking PG-13. The reasoning being used is absurd.

The New California Republic wrote:

Grenartia wrote:Also, you can find porn pretty easily on Twitter, does that mean linking to even SFW posts from there should earn anyone an automatic ban?

Tbh using the train of thought that Miku is using, then even free image hosting sites that people regularly use on the forums, like imgbb and postimages for instance, would be verboten, as I'm sure if I did a trawl of both of them then I could find something on them that'd be pushing or breaking PG-13. The reasoning being used is absurd.

Imgur is also used by some people to host porn of themselves, and you can easily go from a SFW subreddit to an NSFW one as well. Or even wikipedia.

Like, its really just an objectively bad precedent that he's trying to set.