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[R] trolling/slurs used in Homophobia thread

PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2021 9:32 pm
by Prydania
viewtopic.php?p=38370014#p38370014

Communismisdumb wrote:Yes fags don't deserve rights :hug:

PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2021 9:36 pm
by New Visayan Islands
One of my colleagues has addressed this.

PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2021 9:44 pm
by Prydania
*leaves Oreos*

PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 1:00 am
by Necroghastia
Hjallvinter wrote:
"guided by reasoning"
where's the reasoning tho lol


Insight as riveting as I would expect from one who lists their pronouns

Hjallvinter wrote:
Necroghastia wrote:those articles didn't really address any point tbh
you point, if there was one, was utterly incoherent


Dunning Kruger incarnate.

Hjallvinter wrote:
Kowani wrote:indeed
because the conversation SSL and I were having was specifically about pedophile advocacy in regards to LGBT+ rights
the rest of your spiel wasn't relevant to that
are you done?


:rofl:

https://www.bing.com/search?q=pedo+LGBT ... 01&PC=HCTS

https://www.manipalthetalk.org/rights/p ... ason%20too.

https://afa.net/the-stand/culture/2019/ ... edophilia/

https://img.ifunny.co/images/0d2a725996 ... ba3b_1.jpg

https://www.africanglobe.net/headlines/ ... -movement/

Like it or not, they're a part of your movement.

PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 1:54 am
by The Free Joy State
Another poster is also linking the LGBT+ community and paedophilia, rather persistently:
Socialist States of Ludistan wrote:I tried to be nice and rational, that didn’t work, let me say it like this.
If we never gave gays rights, pedophiles would most likely not even think about having pedophilia legalised, because the main reason that pedophiles say that pedophilia should be legalised, is because they consider themselves to be apart of the LGBTQ+ community.
Now, I’m happy that homosexuality is legal, even with the small consequences that comes with it, I wouldn’t change it for a thing in the world, but we still gotta accept the facts, which is, nothing comes without a price, in this case, the ‘item’ is luckily worth much more than the cost.


Socialist States of Ludistan wrote:
Kowani wrote: except, they were doing it before gay people got rights

I’m aware, but pedophilia is not legal now, is it?
It makes sense that pedophiles wouldn’t protest back then, when it was legal.
But it isn’t legal now, I’m saying that homosexuality, among many other things, are causing the pedo-protest nowadays, not back then.


Among other things (the rules concerning such, for one) the paedophilia discussion seems like it might be threatening to become a threadjack.

PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:01 am
by Socialist States of Ludistan
The Free Joy State wrote:Another poster is also linking the LGBT+ community and paedophilia, rather persistently:
Socialist States of Ludistan wrote:I tried to be nice and rational, that didn’t work, let me say it like this.
If we never gave gays rights, pedophiles would most likely not even think about having pedophilia legalised, because the main reason that pedophiles say that pedophilia should be legalised, is because they consider themselves to be apart of the LGBTQ+ community.
Now, I’m happy that homosexuality is legal, even with the small consequences that comes with it, I wouldn’t change it for a thing in the world, but we still gotta accept the facts, which is, nothing comes without a price, in this case, the ‘item’ is luckily worth much more than the cost.


Socialist States of Ludistan wrote:I’m aware, but pedophilia is not legal now, is it?
It makes sense that pedophiles wouldn’t protest back then, when it was legal.
But it isn’t legal now, I’m saying that homosexuality, among many other things, are causing the pedo-protest nowadays, not back then.


Among other things (the rules concerning such, for one) the paedophilia discussion seems like it might be threatening to become a threadjack.

We’ve ended the argument, no need to worry.
Also, you took it very out of context, we were talking about homosexuality.
And I didn’t start the discussion, neither did the guy/girl I was discussing with.

PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:06 am
by The Free Joy State
Seems to be calling being gay a mental illness (post being replied to left for context)
Disgraces wrote:
Daarwyrth wrote:No, it's a good analogy. People are born gay, it's a characteristic of their nature. Someone who has blue eyes or brown hair can't change that fact (unless they literally mask it with coloured contacts or hair dye). Their eyes will always be blue and their hair will always be brown. Identically, gay people can't change their sexual orientation. They can mask it (which is extremely unhealthy) but they can't change it.

Eye or hair color isn't a mental illness.

No, I'm not homophobic.


And doubling down:
Disgraces wrote:
Picairn wrote:Did I hear a Freudian slip?

No, I believe homosexuality is a mental illness (not that it's a bad thing, obviously), and I think it should be common sense.

PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:10 am
by Daarwyrth
The post should speak for itself as to why it is problematic. It's hateful and wrong.

Disgraces wrote:
Daarwyrth wrote:No, it's a good analogy. People are born gay, it's a characteristic of their nature. Someone who has blue eyes or brown hair can't change that fact (unless they literally mask it with coloured contacts or hair dye). Their eyes will always be blue and their hair will always be brown. Identically, gay people can't change their sexual orientation. They can mask it (which is extremely unhealthy) but they can't change it.

Eye or hair color isn't a mental illness.

No, I'm not homophobic.


EDIT: Ah, I see I was preceded, apologies!

PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:13 am
by Necroghastia
The Free Joy State wrote:Seems to be calling being gay a mental illness (post being replied to left for context)
Disgraces wrote:Eye or hair color isn't a mental illness.

No, I'm not homophobic.


And doubling down:
Disgraces wrote:No, I believe homosexuality is a mental illness (not that it's a bad thing, obviously), and I think it should be common sense.

Same poster, in reference to the ongoing argument about LGBT people and y'all-know-whats
Disgraces wrote:
Palmyrion wrote:Just because they claim to be part of LGBT, doesn't mean they are. (And they will never be.)

Sounds familiar.

PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:14 am
by Disgraces
It is not hateful. This is the reason I get called homophobic every time I state my opinion.

PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:18 am
by Daarwyrth
Disgraces wrote:It is not hateful. This is the reason I get called homophobic every time I state my opinion.

Do you not realise how hateful and homophobic it is to call homosexuality a mental illness? I am gay, and feel disrespected and invalidated by having my sexual orientation being called a mental illness. It is a harmful way of thinking, period.

PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:20 am
by Disgraces
Daarwyrth wrote:
Disgraces wrote:It is not hateful. This is the reason I get called homophobic every time I state my opinion.

Do you not realise how hateful and homophobic it is to call homosexuality a mental illness? I am gay, and feel disrespected and invalidated by having my sexual orientation being called a mental illness. It is a harmful way of thinking, period.

Is it hateful to call autism, for example, a mental illness?
I swear, nothing I say is meant to be hateful.

PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:24 am
by Daarwyrth
Disgraces wrote:
Daarwyrth wrote:Do you not realise how hateful and homophobic it is to call homosexuality a mental illness? I am gay, and feel disrespected and invalidated by having my sexual orientation being called a mental illness. It is a harmful way of thinking, period.

Is it hateful to call autism, for example, a mental illness?
I swear, nothing I say is meant to be hateful.

Your intent doesn't matter. What you say is hateful, homophobic and harmful, inherently so.

PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:26 am
by Disgraces
Daarwyrth wrote:
Disgraces wrote:Is it hateful to call autism, for example, a mental illness?
I swear, nothing I say is meant to be hateful.

Your intent doesn't matter. What you say is hateful, homophobic and harmful, inherently so.

It isn't, period.

PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:30 am
by Daarwyrth
Page wrote:
Disgraces wrote:How come humans reproduce heterosexually, then?


There is no design in evolution. Organisms mutate. If they are not killed or rendered infertile before they get a chance to procreate, that mutation may be passed on.

Comparing homosexuality to a mutation that needs to be killed or rendered infertile.

Apologies, I misunderstood this post in the heat of the moment, but the misunderstanding has already been cleared up.

PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:33 am
by Disgraces
Daarwyrth wrote:
Page wrote:
There is no design in evolution. Organisms mutate. If they are not killed or rendered infertile before they get a chance to procreate, that mutation may be passed on.

Comparing homosexuality to a mutation that needs to be killed or rendered infertile.

You gotta be fucking kidding.

PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:37 am
by Hjallvinter
Ahhh, the sad state of public discussion...

This forum is overtly political. We're LARPing as different nations operating under different policies.

Personal decisions are political. Characteristics of a person are political. Sexuality is political.

Not everyone agrees with your decisions or supports them. Not everyone thinks you're sane or rational. Not everyone wants certain behaviors in their communities. Nobody is under an obligation to handle a discussion with kid gloves.

Telling them they're hateful and they need to stop doesn't do anything towards fostering any kind of actual discussion to be had. It reduces the world to a minimum of dogmatic feel good pontification. That's reality.

NS back in the early 00's didn't balk at having fiery discussions about this sort of stuff. This place shook my entire worldview. Once upon a time It was a crucible of ideas where different positions butted heads in search of a grain of truth with minimal regards for one's personal disposition or feelings, but it seems times have changed.

PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 4:02 am
by New Visayan Islands

PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 4:24 am
by The Free Joy State
Thanks, NVI

PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:12 am
by Kowani
to'avia...


Imperial Kaiserreich Germany wrote:
Molither wrote:Nope. I could never see it as justifiable to discriminate against people like me or view me less based on our sexuality.

Agreed. Burn them at the stake

PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 11:17 am
by Istoreya
The thread is slowly being threadjacked into a discussion of fascism and imperialism. I attempt to re-rail it here
Istoreya wrote:Okay, discussion of what and what isn't facism might be a liiiiiil bit off topic

But it did not seem to work. Most derailing seems to be by Novokria, others are back on-topic.
Novokria wrote:Yes i support Stepan Bandera he was fighting for an independent Ukraine and yes some Poles died but thats after the Poles killed many Ukrainians

PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 11:20 am
by Novokria
Istoreya wrote:The thread is slowly being threadjacked into a discussion of fascism and imperialism. I attempt to re-rail it here
Istoreya wrote:Okay, discussion of what and what isn't facism might be a liiiiiil bit off topic

But it did not seem to work. Most derailing seems to be by Novokria, others are back on-topic.
Novokria wrote:Yes i support Stepan Bandera he was fighting for an independent Ukraine and yes some Poles died but thats after the Poles killed many Ukrainians

Yes i am going back on topic about why Homophobia is not right

PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 11:26 am
by Necroghastia
Rapperland wrote:I show no love to homo thugs
How you gonna explain fuckin' a man?

PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 11:35 am
by Odreria
Trollnaming

Caraani wrote:
Odreria wrote:Who tf are you

Sorry, I haven't been around NationStates in a few years, how do I log a report for trolling again?

PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 11:49 am
by Gongsi
And now someone's posted straight up porn gifs. I didn't get their name and can't scroll back down (at work) but I believe their name was something like "I Love Hololive".