Page 1 of 2

[R] Trolling in US Politics thread

PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 7:32 pm
by Atheris
Loftegen 3 wrote:Joe Biden is my President: Unsere verleibte fuehur! Sieg hiel! Seig heil!"

PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 9:02 pm
by New Visayan Islands

PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 9:08 am
by Atheris
New Visayan Islands wrote:Lunchtime!

Danke, NVI! *leaves freaky alien lemonade*

PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 9:33 am
by The New California Republic
Going down the "homosexuality is a mental illness" route:

Freiheit Reich wrote:Heterosexual intimacy with a sibling is controversial and should be discouraged but it is not more of a mental illness than homosexuality. Of course, this is my opinion and debatable (as we can say about most mental illnesses). [...]


He has also consistently been bundling homosexuality with incest:

viewtopic.php?f=20&t=497186&p=38229555#p38229555

viewtopic.php?f=20&t=497186&p=38229046#p38229046

viewtopic.php?p=38229486#p38229486

viewtopic.php?p=38229572#p38229572

PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 11:27 am
by Aeritai
Postauthoritarian America wrote:
Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:The event was planned well in advance, considering its proximity to the Capitol and valid threats of insurrection made before, I would be surprised if Russia or China didn’t take the opportunity to plant spies in the mob


If you have a shred of evidence for that outlandish claim you should call the FBI. If not you should STFU.


Flaming

PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 4:06 pm
by Trollzyn the Infinite
Freiheit Reich wrote:
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Look, bro. I used to be on the side of the "they can just go somewhere else" mentality.

But then I realized libertarianism is stupid and bigotry needs to be actively erased from society.


Why? People should have the right to be bigots. Do you want to force people to have the same opinion as you? What about someone that might have a reason to dislike another group? Imagine someone who lived in Nanjing and was raped by Japanese soldiers during the Nanjing Massacre. Should that person be forced to serve Japanese customers if they enter her store? What about a man who had a wife raped and tortured and killed by a group of white men? Should that business owner be forced to serve white men? People have different life experiences and may have a reason for being bigots.

Discourage bigotry but don't regulate it (at least for private businesses).

You are an idealist but idealism can be dangerous. I think about young idealistic students in 1960's China that beat their teachers and beat monks for not being communist enough. These students just loved their nation and wanted the teachers and monks to think like them and support Maoist thoughts. They were idealistic but tyrannical as well.

Fifty years on, one of Mao’s ‘little generals’ exposes horror of the Cultural Revolution

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/ ... revolution


Freiheit is comparing me to the architects of the Cultural Revolution, a campaign of state-sanctioned mass murder and terror which resulted in the deaths of 20 million people.

PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 4:45 pm
by Farnhamia
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Freiheit Reich wrote:
Why? People should have the right to be bigots. Do you want to force people to have the same opinion as you? What about someone that might have a reason to dislike another group? Imagine someone who lived in Nanjing and was raped by Japanese soldiers during the Nanjing Massacre. Should that person be forced to serve Japanese customers if they enter her store? What about a man who had a wife raped and tortured and killed by a group of white men? Should that business owner be forced to serve white men? People have different life experiences and may have a reason for being bigots.

Discourage bigotry but don't regulate it (at least for private businesses).

You are an idealist but idealism can be dangerous. I think about young idealistic students in 1960's China that beat their teachers and beat monks for not being communist enough. These students just loved their nation and wanted the teachers and monks to think like them and support Maoist thoughts. They were idealistic but tyrannical as well.

Fifty years on, one of Mao’s ‘little generals’ exposes horror of the Cultural Revolution

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/ ... revolution


Freiheit is comparing me to the architects of the Cultural Revolution, a campaign of state-sanctioned mass murder and terror which resulted in the deaths of 20 million people.

viewtopic.php?p=38230658#p38230658

PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 4:46 pm
by The New California Republic
Are the two reports above that one not actionable?
EDIT: I see they are getting dealt with separately.

PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 4:49 pm
by Farnhamia
Aeritai wrote:
Postauthoritarian America wrote:
If you have a shred of evidence for that outlandish claim you should call the FBI. If not you should STFU.


Flaming

viewtopic.php?p=38230674#p38230674

PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 7:17 pm
by Trollzyn the Infinite
Farnhamia wrote:
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Freiheit is comparing me to the architects of the Cultural Revolution, a campaign of state-sanctioned mass murder and terror which resulted in the deaths of 20 million people.

viewtopic.php?p=38230658#p38230658


Kudos.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2021 9:57 am
by The Reformed American Republic
Noble DG wrote:I still can't believe that America elected a pedophile as their next president.


I have a suspicion that Noble DG might be a troll account. I don't know if they crossed the line yet, but I'm suspicious.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2021 12:22 pm
by Kexholm Karelia
Trump the Punk wrote:
Cultural Posadism wrote:What does it say about the absolute state of American conservatism that the new generation of Republican congresspeople are a bunch of violent conspiracy theorists and neo nazis?


Better than the wusses that publish this garbage: https://www.nationalreview.com/2021/01/this-time-there-may-not-be-a-do-over

Can you believe these conservacucks? appealing to unity and talking to *barf* liberals! Not me, I WANNA DESTROY!

PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2021 2:13 pm
by Farnhamia
Kexholm Karelia wrote:
Trump the Punk wrote:
Better than the wusses that publish this garbage: https://www.nationalreview.com/2021/01/this-time-there-may-not-be-a-do-over

Can you believe these conservacucks? appealing to unity and talking to *barf* liberals! Not me, I WANNA DESTROY!

They were destroyed by another Mod.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2021 2:15 pm
by Farnhamia
The Reformed American Republic wrote:
Noble DG wrote:I still can't believe that America elected a pedophile as their next president.


I have a suspicion that Noble DG might be a troll account. I don't know if they crossed the line yet, but I'm suspicious.

viewtopic.php?p=38234158#p38234158

PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2021 2:17 pm
by The New California Republic
Was the report I made yesterday not actionable?

PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:07 pm
by Farnhamia
The New California Republic wrote:Going down the "homosexuality is a mental illness" route:

Freiheit Reich wrote:Heterosexual intimacy with a sibling is controversial and should be discouraged but it is not more of a mental illness than homosexuality. Of course, this is my opinion and debatable (as we can say about most mental illnesses). [...]


He has also consistently been bundling homosexuality with incest:

viewtopic.php?f=20&t=497186&p=38229555#p38229555

viewtopic.php?f=20&t=497186&p=38229046#p38229046

viewtopic.php?p=38229486#p38229486

viewtopic.php?p=38229572#p38229572

Yes, but in a compare-and-contrast sort of way. I find the sentiments expressed in those posts distasteful but not actionable. *holds up a hand and fires a Second Opinion flare*

PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:22 pm
by The New California Republic
Thanks Farn.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2021 9:58 pm
by The Reformed American Republic
Cordel One wrote:
Kexholm Karelia wrote:Easy to imagine why, if you think about it. Statistics show that Republican voters, no matter income level, are much happier than their democrat counterparts. While part of that I think is attributed to faith in God and belief in a good family as the basis of society, living in a rural area is far more of an individualistic lifestyle than urban living is

Ignorance is bliss, as they say.

I take this to mean "Republicans are ignorant" and thus think this might be trolling. I'm not a fan of the GOP but still.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:34 pm
by Giovenith
Farnhamia wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Going down the "homosexuality is a mental illness" route:



He has also consistently been bundling homosexuality with incest:

viewtopic.php?f=20&t=497186&p=38229555#p38229555

viewtopic.php?f=20&t=497186&p=38229046#p38229046

viewtopic.php?p=38229486#p38229486

viewtopic.php?p=38229572#p38229572

Yes, but in a compare-and-contrast sort of way. I find the sentiments expressed in those posts distasteful but not actionable. *holds up a hand and fires a Second Opinion flare*


Gross, but not actionable. Agreed that they're using it to make an argument about different social mores.

The Reformed American Republic wrote:
Cordel One wrote:Ignorance is bliss, as they say.

I take this to mean "Republicans are ignorant" and thus think this might be trolling. I'm not a fan of the GOP but still.


Not actionable.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:40 pm
by The Reformed American Republic
Understood, thanks Gio!


Farnhamia wrote:
The Reformed American Republic wrote:
I have a suspicion that Noble DG might be a troll account. I don't know if they crossed the line yet, but I'm suspicious.

viewtopic.php?p=38234158#p38234158


Thanks Farn!

PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 1:19 am
by The New California Republic
Cheers Gio.

PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 4:08 am
by Miku the Based
Forum rulebreaking of trolling
viewtopic.php?p=38217432#p38217432
The user Vassenor is trying to gaslight Galloism of being a sexist for linking a cnn article for merely mentioning a non-violent feminist protest next to a violent protest in a city that occurred around the same time and day.
edit: Specifically this string of quotes.
Galloism quoting CNN article: In Washington, Newsham told CNN the several hundred demonstrators who actively confronted police were vastly outnumbered by the thousands of nonviolent protesters who swarmed the nation's capital for Inauguration Day and Saturday's Women's March on Washington.

"We have been pointing out all along that this is a very isolated incident, and by and large, everything is going peacefully and a lot of folks have come to the city to enjoy this historic day, not only the Capitol but walking all around the city," he said.


Vassenor:
Sorry if it upsets you to see a feminist movement depicted positively, but to equate this to an attempted insurrection and the actual murder of a police officer is so disingenuous it's not even funny.

PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 5:15 am
by New Visayan Islands
Borderline, not actionable.

PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:09 am
by An Alan Smithee Nation
This nation just seems like someone's puppet for trolling

memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=1178669

PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:20 am
by The Archregimancy
An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:This nation just seems like someone's puppet for trolling

memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=1178669


Warning issued here:

viewtopic.php?p=38236761#p38236761