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Nova Vandalia
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[R] Christianity Thread

Postby Nova Vandalia » Thu Dec 17, 2020 1:11 pm

Turelisa- wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
Yes, once they've repented, put them to death to save them from themselves.

At least we Catholics have the integrity to admit we were wrong for this line of thinking.


The Bible tells us to 'put away evil from among you' by inflicting the death penalty upon people who commit the most heinous crimes - murder, adultery, incest, paedophilia, criminal insanity and certain unnatural sexual acts.
People who commit these crimes are depraved, and can't be saved. They haven't the Holy Spirit working in them. They are the worst of reprobates.They're outside of God's grace, and must be killed judicially to spare the rest of society their corrupting influence. An evil person is never happy, and death is a release from the suffering which they inflict upon themselves. What is kinder than that? If you spare the reprobate criminal's life, and give him his freedom, you are, in effect, protracting his suffering and eventual self-destruction and guaranteeing the destruction of future victims of his depravity.
If they were in God's grace, they would either be intimidated by the rule of law sufficiently to refrain from temptation to do these unholy acts or, having the Holy Spirit working in them, would be regenerated from that natural depravity whence springs all Evil.



viewtopic.php?f=20&t=479083&p=38102646&sid=30f0355f708bf37e87292de3c1bb3c93#p38102646

I feel like calling summary execution of folx is a bit much?
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Postby Turelisa- » Thu Dec 17, 2020 1:17 pm

You don't know what summary execution means. I said 'killed judicially.' The death penalty given in a court of law.
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Postby Nova Vandalia » Thu Dec 17, 2020 1:28 pm

Ah So you did. Either was I'd still like a mod to look at it, because I feel like calling for the death of a group that you simply don't like is still pushing the line.
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Postby Turelisa- » Thu Dec 17, 2020 1:40 pm

No. I'm not calling for the death penalty for a 'group.' I'm advocating the death penalty for certain crimes, some of which are capital crimes in nations today.

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Postby Neutraligon » Thu Dec 17, 2020 1:41 pm

Not actionable, though I would recommend extreme caution since you are incredibly close to the line.
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Postby Nova Vandalia » Thu Dec 17, 2020 1:43 pm

Neutraligon wrote:Not actionable, though I would recommend caution.


Thank for looking it at Neutraligon. Can't say I feel comfortable with the decision but I understand it.
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Postby Turelisa- » Thu Dec 17, 2020 1:44 pm

Thank you, moderator. I shall bear your advice in mind.

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Postby Neutraligon » Thu Dec 17, 2020 1:46 pm

Nova Vandalia wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:Not actionable, though I would recommend caution.


Thank for looking it at Neutraligon. Can't say I feel comfortable with the decision but I understand it.

Like I said they are tapdancing on that line.
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Postby Nova Vandalia » Thu Dec 17, 2020 1:57 pm

Neutraligon wrote:
Nova Vandalia wrote:
Thank for looking it at Neutraligon. Can't say I feel comfortable with the decision but I understand it.

Like I said they are tapdancing on that line.


*leaves a nice crawdad broil* Danke! Either way for taking a look.
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Postby The New California Republic » Fri Dec 18, 2020 1:32 am

Calling me a snake:

Turelisa- wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Tbh this is not the first time that Turelisa has advocated that the likes of LGBT people be killed, so it's no surprise.


Snakes are not welcome in this thread, nor is the poison that they pour into the ears of those who will listen tolerated.

And yes I get that it's a Bible reference, but from past rulings I've seen that using the Bible to flame or troll is no excuse.
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Postby Turelisa- » Fri Dec 18, 2020 7:16 am

viewtopic.php?f=20&t=479083&p=38103861#p38103861

The post was a reaction to this flamebait. I have never advocated killing LGBT people!

The New California Republic wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
He's talking about the LGBs

Tbh this is not the first time that Turelisa has advocated that the likes of LGBT people be killed, so it's no surprise.
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Postby The New California Republic » Fri Dec 18, 2020 7:21 am

Turelisa- wrote:https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=479083&p=38103861#p38103861

The post was a reaction to this flamebait. I have never advocated killing LGBT people!

How does pointing out that you have engaged in similar things before, to provide context for those asking about the meaning, constitute "flamebait"?

If you sincerely thought that it was flamebait then you should have flagged it up in the first instance, instead of calling me a snake and then trying to counter-report using the alleged "flamebait" ex post facto.
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Postby Lamoni » Fri Dec 18, 2020 7:59 am

I'm calling the charge of flamebait against NCR non-actionable. NCR was pointing out that you have engaged in a specific behavior before, in order to provide context for someone asking about what you meant, Turelisa.

Turelisa- wrote:
Benuty wrote:Well, this is perhaps the greatest example of a burn I have seen in a while. I would recommend some immediate third-degree burn surgery at the hospital.


Didn't even scratch the surface. The hysteria and deciet with which Tarsonis has disgraced himself exposes faults that show the Holy Spirit has done no work within him, despite his professed faith.
It just goes to show Catholicism, the spawn of Roman imperalism and mongrel myatico-paganism, is the heresy which it has always been.


Now as for this and the snake comment, Turelisa, you get a:

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Postby The New California Republic » Fri Dec 18, 2020 8:02 am

Cheers Lamoni.
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Postby Punished UMN » Fri Dec 18, 2020 10:40 am

Turelisa- wrote:
Benuty wrote:Well, this is perhaps the greatest example of a burn I have seen in a while. I would recommend some immediate third-degree burn surgery at the hospital.


Didn't even scratch the surface. The deceit, hysteria and vicious ad hominem with which Tarsonis has disgraced himself exposes faults that show the Holy Spirit has done no work within him, despite his professed faith.
It just goes to show Catholicism, the spawn of Roman imperalism and mongrel mystico-paganism, is the heresy which it has always been.


In light of the first comment that was reported here, I would like to point out that the emphasized point here is more or less calling for Tars to be put to death. He's not saying it outright, but he said earlier that it's grounds to be put to death, so the implication is pretty clear.
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Postby Farnhamia » Fri Dec 18, 2020 1:04 pm

Punished UMN wrote:
Turelisa- wrote:
Didn't even scratch the surface. The deceit, hysteria and vicious ad hominem with which Tarsonis has disgraced himself exposes faults that show the Holy Spirit has done no work within him, despite his professed faith.
It just goes to show Catholicism, the spawn of Roman imperalism and mongrel mystico-paganism, is the heresy which it has always been.


In light of the first comment that was reported here, I would like to point out that the emphasized point here is more or less calling for Tars to be put to death. He's not saying it outright, but he said earlier that it's grounds to be put to death, so the implication is pretty clear.

I direct your attention to the warning post two posts above yours.
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Postby Punished UMN » Fri Dec 18, 2020 4:07 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Punished UMN wrote:
In light of the first comment that was reported here, I would like to point out that the emphasized point here is more or less calling for Tars to be put to death. He's not saying it outright, but he said earlier that it's grounds to be put to death, so the implication is pretty clear.

I direct your attention to the warning post two posts above yours.

Since it's directly relevant to his posts here, I would like to say that Turelisa is harassing me for reporting his posts in my telegrams. Do I need to submit a GHR?
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Postby Neutraligon » Fri Dec 18, 2020 4:31 pm

Please do as we need game mods to deal with telegrams.
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Postby Mostrov » Sat Dec 19, 2020 12:49 am

Punished UMN wrote:This is just awful theology. Calvinism truly is Satanic.

If I were to argue that 'Islam is Satanic' in the respective thread I would probably be dinged, I don't see why this is any different. The anti-protestant bias in the thread is quite palpable.

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Postby Turelisa- » Sat Dec 19, 2020 10:48 am

If my likening of a playerto a snake is trolling, then, by extension, so is this -

Tarsonis wrote:
Turelisa- wrote:
Snakes are not welcome in this thread, nor is the poison that they pour into the ears of those who will listen tolerated.


And yet, here you are.


Although I wouldnt bet the moderator regards it so. I can't help but notice bias in many of the recent moderation judgments concerning me .
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Postby Farnhamia » Sat Dec 19, 2020 11:21 am

Turelisa- wrote:If my likening of a playerto a snake is trolling, then, by extension, so is this -

Tarsonis wrote:
And yet, here you are.


Although I wouldnt bet the moderator regards it so. I can't help but notice bias in many of the recent moderation judgments concerning me .

viewtopic.php?p=38110172#p38110172

Perhaps what you see as bias against you is our bias in favor of the rules, which you have a habit of breaking. You might consider that you've gotten a warning and two bans so far this month, and examine your behavior.
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Postby Farnhamia » Sat Dec 19, 2020 11:21 am

Mostrov wrote:
Punished UMN wrote:This is just awful theology. Calvinism truly is Satanic.

If I were to argue that 'Islam is Satanic' in the respective thread I would probably be dinged, I don't see why this is any different. The anti-protestant bias in the thread is quite palpable.

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Postby Turelisa- » Sat Dec 19, 2020 11:52 am

Thank you, moderator.

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Postby Turelisa- » Sat Dec 19, 2020 2:50 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:

He's talking about the LGBs

Tbh this is not the first time that Turelisa has advocated that the likes of LGBT people be killed, so it's no surprise.


I'm reporting the italicised quote above as trolling.
The New California Republic is blatantly lying, as I have never advocated 'LGBT people be killed' either in this thread or in any other, and the fact that the player has failed to prove his accusation with a direct quote to the previous post(s) which he refers to to try and corrobate his false accusation achieves nothing but to corrobate my case against him.
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Postby Neutraligon » Sat Dec 19, 2020 2:51 pm

Turelisa- wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Tbh this is not the first time that Turelisa has advocated that the likes of LGBT people be killed, so it's no surprise.


I'm reporting the italicised quote above as trolling.
New Californian Republic is blatantly lying, as I have never advocated 'LGBT people be killed' either in this thread or in any other, and the fact that the player has failed to prove his accusation with a direct quote to the previous post(s) which he refers to to try and corrobate his false accusation achieves nothing but to corrobate my case against him.

Not actionable.
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