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Postby The New California Republic » Fri Nov 13, 2020 11:43 am

Kexholm Karelia wrote:There are also some very clear disinformation/troll accounts, you know, whenever a thread gets made about the CCP, a bunch of accounts that just happened to be created that exact day jump in and start defending China

The existence of shill accounts is a whole different issue.
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Postby Fahran » Fri Nov 13, 2020 11:47 am

The New California Republic wrote:The existence of shill accounts is a whole different issue.

They can also be difficult to crack down on unless they're engaging in spam or dog-piling. Some topics are simply going to attract users with a particular paradigm or set of paradigms en masse.

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Postby Rosmana » Fri Nov 13, 2020 11:49 am

If you are a radical Stalinist or Ancom, yes, otherwise, meh. :D
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Postby -The-Union of Soviet Socialist Republics » Fri Nov 13, 2020 12:13 pm

I have noticed that there's a lot of extreme left-wing people on this website, I had to leave my last region because a lot of the players there were toxic, going on about how they think people on the right should be arrested for simply not having their views or worshipping a certain religion, it's kinda ridiculous if you ask me, and I won't name the region in particular because I would rather not start a bunch of drama between me and them.
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Postby Rosmana » Fri Nov 13, 2020 12:18 pm

-The-Union of Soviet Socialist Republics wrote:I have noticed that there's a lot of extreme left-wing people on this website, I had to leave my last region because a lot of the players there were toxic, going on about how they think people on the right should be arrested for simply not having their views or worshipping a certain religion, it's kinda ridiculous if you ask me, and I won't name the region in particular because I would rather not start a bunch of drama between me and them.

Wow, same thing happened to me.
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Postby Honeydewistania » Sat Nov 14, 2020 3:20 am

-The-Union of Soviet Socialist Republics wrote:I have noticed that there's a lot of extreme left-wing people on this website, I had to leave my last region because a lot of the players there were toxic, going on about how they think people on the right should be arrested for simply not having their views or worshipping a certain religion, it's kinda ridiculous if you ask me, and I won't name the region in particular because I would rather not start a bunch of drama between me and them.

Lol we can easily see from your regional happenings what region it is
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Postby West The Bon Noratenhalam » Sat Nov 14, 2020 3:25 am

In my 17 years of being on this site on and off, I would say that there has always been a slight pro-left bias among the moderation team. But, I wouldn't say that it is the to extent of NS having effectively become a safe space for the left.

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Postby Ghost Land » Sat Nov 14, 2020 6:19 am

West The Bon Noratenhalam wrote:In my 17 years of being on this site on and off, I would say that there has always been a slight pro-left bias among the moderation team. But, I wouldn't say that it is the to extent of NS having effectively become a safe space for the left.

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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Sat Nov 14, 2020 6:26 am

You know if this was a leftwing safe space, many of us would not have been banned for certain things said about the current president. I'm not making the claim that this site is a right wing safe space. I'm just saying it isn't a safe space. I think right wingers are treated fairly enough here.
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Postby Fyrn-Gestreon » Sat Nov 14, 2020 6:30 am

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:You know if this was a leftwing safe space, many of us would not have been banned for certain things said about the current president. I'm not making the claim that this site is a right wing safe space. I'm just saying it isn't a safe space. I think right wingers are treated fairly enough here.

That's mainly what I've seen, too. It's a little strange though; in most places, I'd expect to see more conservatives or fascists, but right-wingers here have run the whole gamut from theocrats to monarchists. It's kind of weird, but also kind of interesting lol
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Postby Pan Evropa » Sat Nov 14, 2020 10:04 am

no. you just don't follow the rules as closely as you might think.
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Postby -The-Union of Soviet Socialist Republics » Sat Nov 14, 2020 11:25 am

Honeydewistania wrote:
-The-Union of Soviet Socialist Republics wrote:I have noticed that there's a lot of extreme left-wing people on this website, I had to leave my last region because a lot of the players there were toxic, going on about how they think people on the right should be arrested for simply not having their views or worshipping a certain religion, it's kinda ridiculous if you ask me, and I won't name the region in particular because I would rather not start a bunch of drama between me and them.

Lol we can easily see from your regional happenings what region it is

You're right, guess I should go into hiding now.
We are the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics but in an alternate dimension. In our dimension, the Cold War is still going on and we've reformed our government similar to how China did, though we still kept the command economy.
NS-Stats are not officially used in RP, though I do tend to look after them just for fun.
Please know that my nation does NOT reflect my ideals, I am not a communist in real life, I just like history.

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Postby West The Bon Noratenhalam » Sat Nov 14, 2020 5:26 pm

I will add that while there isn't that much overt pro-left bias among the mods, there is a considerable lack of consistency and transparency in how they interpret and enforce the rules.

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Postby Euroslavia » Sat Nov 14, 2020 6:02 pm

West The Bon Noratenhalam wrote:I will add that while there isn't that much overt pro-left bias among the mods, there is a considerable lack of consistency and transparency in how they interpret and enforce the rules.


Perhaps you could provide some examples?
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Postby Romextly » Sat Nov 14, 2020 6:03 pm

Euroslavia wrote:
West The Bon Noratenhalam wrote:I will add that while there isn't that much overt pro-left bias among the mods, there is a considerable lack of consistency and transparency in how they interpret and enforce the rules.


Perhaps you could provide some examples?

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Postby New haven america » Sat Nov 14, 2020 6:04 pm

Romextly wrote:
Euroslavia wrote:
Perhaps you could provide some examples?

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Postby Romextly » Sat Nov 14, 2020 6:21 pm

New haven america wrote:
Romextly wrote:Empirical Switzerland

A DOS player who spent most of their time here acting in bad faith?

He was actually a very-well liked player on both sides of the political compass

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Postby Kexholm Karelia » Sat Nov 14, 2020 6:43 pm

Romextly wrote:
Euroslavia wrote:
Perhaps you could provide some examples?

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Postby Euroslavia » Sat Nov 14, 2020 6:45 pm

Romextly wrote:
New haven america wrote:A DOS player who spent most of their time here acting in bad faith?

He was actually a very-well liked player on both sides of the political compass


Being well liked has nothing to do with whether one abides by the rules or not.
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Postby Romextly » Sat Nov 14, 2020 6:45 pm

Euroslavia wrote:
Romextly wrote:He was actually a very-well liked player on both sides of the political compass


Being well liked has nothing to do with whether one abides by the rules or not.

But, what did he do?

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Postby Ethel mermania » Sat Nov 14, 2020 6:49 pm

Romextly wrote:
Euroslavia wrote:
Being well liked has nothing to do with whether one abides by the rules or not.

But, what did he do?

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Postby Euroslavia » Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:03 pm

Romextly wrote:
Euroslavia wrote:
Being well liked has nothing to do with whether one abides by the rules or not.

But, what did he do?


We, in most cases, do not discuss why one is removed from the site with 3rd parties. I can assure you that it's for a VERY good reason.
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Postby Romextly » Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:04 pm

Euroslavia wrote:
Romextly wrote:But, what did he do?


We, in most cases, do not discuss why one is removed from the site with 3rd parties. I can assure you that it's for a VERY good reason.

I can understand why. PRotests?

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Postby Theberstan » Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:06 pm

I’m my experience, sadly it is... that’s why I usually stay off the forums.

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Postby Frisbeeteria » Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:19 pm

Romextly wrote:I can understand why. PRotests?

First, it's nobody's business except the deleted player and the mods. We observe privacy even for deleted players.
Second, we won't advertise or glorify the content leading to a deletion. Deletion copycats are actually a thing, and there are other good reasons for not sharing.

Protests are irrelevant. If you don't know the facts (and protesters virtually never do), then any protests are meaningless. Protesters have no intrinsic right to that knowledge, and the protests are almost always unrelated to the actual events.

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