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[Discussion] Ban QAnon-related content?

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The Archregimancy
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Postby The Archregimancy » Wed Oct 28, 2020 7:00 am

Our formal statement on the issue:

We will not be banning discussion of QAnon from the forums. We do not ban white supremacists from the forums, we do not ban North Korea advocates from the forums, we do not ban Islamists from the forums. People advocating these perspectives often run afoul of the rules since it's difficult to advocate them without breaking the rules, but they are not inherently banned.

We reserve the right to add specific QAnon sites to our prohibited links list on an ad hoc basis, but otherwise any QAnon advocacy posts reported in Moderation will simply be judged on the basis of the existing rules. If you do report them, please base your report accordingly.

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The New California Republic
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Postby The New California Republic » Wed Oct 28, 2020 7:04 am

Cheers Arch & other Mods.
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Echellia
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Postby Echellia » Wed Oct 28, 2020 8:05 am

Thank you, mods!
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Postby Fedel » Wed Oct 28, 2020 10:50 am

A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one.

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Postby Parxland » Wed Oct 28, 2020 11:03 am

TMW people are congratulated for using common sense, I lose faith in humanity.

Thank you for deciding NOT to fuck up, i guess.
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The Archregimancy
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Postby The Archregimancy » Wed Oct 28, 2020 12:32 pm

Parxland wrote:Thank you for deciding NOT to fuck up, i guess.


It's worth noting that this didn't really have much to do with us 'not fucking up'.

An individual raised concerns over an issue that has some prominence in a country where an election is currently taking place. Because it was topical, I noted that - without prejudging the issue - an internal conversation within the moderation team would ensue. Some people decided to get a bit worked up about it rather than waiting for the results of that internal conversation. The internal conversation decided that existing rules would apply.

I mean, it's not really earth-shattering stuff, is it?
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Postby Albrenia » Wed Oct 28, 2020 1:32 pm

Parxland wrote:TMW people are congratulated for using common sense, I lose faith in humanity.

Thank you for deciding NOT to fuck up, i guess.


Oddly antagonising response to getting the result you wanted.

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Postby Fedel » Wed Oct 28, 2020 1:39 pm

Albrenia wrote:
Parxland wrote:TMW people are congratulated for using common sense, I lose faith in humanity.

Thank you for deciding NOT to fuck up, i guess.


Oddly antagonising response to getting the result you wanted.


If somebody picks a person from a crowd and holds a gun to their head before lowering it and saying "Lol, jk." Should they be thanked?
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The New California Republic
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Postby The New California Republic » Wed Oct 28, 2020 1:52 pm

Fedel wrote:
Albrenia wrote:
Oddly antagonising response to getting the result you wanted.


If somebody picks a person from a crowd and holds a gun to their head before lowering it and saying "Lol, jk." Should they be thanked?

...what? :eyebrow:
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They're hoping soon, my kind will drop and die
But I'm going to wave my freak flag high
Wave on, wave on
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Postby Fedel » Wed Oct 28, 2020 1:53 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
Fedel wrote:
If somebody picks a person from a crowd and holds a gun to their head before lowering it and saying "Lol, jk." Should they be thanked?

...what? :eyebrow:


...what? :eyebrow:

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Postby Nevertopia » Wed Oct 28, 2020 1:54 pm

We should let QAnon conspiracy theorists have their own thread then shadowban them. That way they can keep screaming into the void and we can keep ignoring them.
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The New California Republic
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Postby The New California Republic » Wed Oct 28, 2020 1:55 pm

Fedel wrote:
Fedel wrote:
If somebody picks a person from a crowd and holds a gun to their head before lowering it and saying "Lol, jk." Should they be thanked?
The New California Republic wrote:...what? :eyebrow:


...what? :eyebrow:

You could actually clarify what you meant, instead of parroting what I just said.
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The Irradiated Wasteland of The New California Republic: depicting the expanded NCR, several years after the total victory over Caesar's Legion, and the annexation of New Vegas and its surrounding areas.

White-collared conservatives flashing down the street
Pointing their plastic finger at me
They're hoping soon, my kind will drop and die
But I'm going to wave my freak flag high
Wave on, wave on
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Postby Fulgornia » Wed Oct 28, 2020 1:56 pm

The Archregimancy wrote:Our formal statement on the issue:

We will not be banning discussion of QAnon from the forums. We do not ban white supremacists from the forums, we do not ban North Korea advocates from the forums, we do not ban Islamists from the forums. People advocating these perspectives often run afoul of the rules since it's difficult to advocate them without breaking the rules, but they are not inherently banned.

We reserve the right to add specific QAnon sites to our prohibited links list on an ad hoc basis, but otherwise any QAnon advocacy posts reported in Moderation will simply be judged on the basis of the existing rules. If you do report them, please base your report accordingly.


So basically QAnon is banned because QAnon will eventually QAnon. :rofl:

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Postby Albrenia » Wed Oct 28, 2020 1:59 pm

Fedel wrote:
Albrenia wrote:
Oddly antagonising response to getting the result you wanted.


If somebody picks a person from a crowd and holds a gun to their head before lowering it and saying "Lol, jk." Should they be thanked?


The admins never 'held a gun' at anyone. It's more a case of someone pointing out someone looking a bit sus, the admins going 'nah, they're fine' and then everything going back to normal.

Methinks you might need to lay off the persecution complex a bit.

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Fedel
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Postby Fedel » Wed Oct 28, 2020 2:00 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
Fedel wrote:
...what? :eyebrow:

You could actually clarify what you meant, instead of parroting what I just said.


Think what I said was pretty clear. :)

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The New California Republic
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Postby The New California Republic » Wed Oct 28, 2020 2:01 pm

Fedel wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:You could actually clarify what you meant, instead of parroting what I just said.


Think what I said was pretty clear. :)

No. Clarify, please.
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The Irradiated Wasteland of The New California Republic: depicting the expanded NCR, several years after the total victory over Caesar's Legion, and the annexation of New Vegas and its surrounding areas.

White-collared conservatives flashing down the street
Pointing their plastic finger at me
They're hoping soon, my kind will drop and die
But I'm going to wave my freak flag high
Wave on, wave on
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Fedel
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Postby Fedel » Wed Oct 28, 2020 2:01 pm

Albrenia wrote:
Fedel wrote:
If somebody picks a person from a crowd and holds a gun to their head before lowering it and saying "Lol, jk." Should they be thanked?


Methinks you might need to lay off the persecution complex a bit.


Good thing the thoughts you've expressed thus far are irrelevant to me.
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Fedel
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Postby Fedel » Wed Oct 28, 2020 2:01 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
Fedel wrote:
Think what I said was pretty clear. :)

No. Clarify, please.


Yes. No thanks.

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The New California Republic
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Postby The New California Republic » Wed Oct 28, 2020 2:03 pm

Fedel wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:No. Clarify, please.


Yes. No thanks.

If you want to be awkward by not clarifying what you meant then that's your prerogative then.
Last edited by Sigmund Freud on Sat Sep 23, 1939 2:23 am, edited 999 times in total.

The Irradiated Wasteland of The New California Republic: depicting the expanded NCR, several years after the total victory over Caesar's Legion, and the annexation of New Vegas and its surrounding areas.

White-collared conservatives flashing down the street
Pointing their plastic finger at me
They're hoping soon, my kind will drop and die
But I'm going to wave my freak flag high
Wave on, wave on
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Fedel
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Postby Fedel » Wed Oct 28, 2020 2:04 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
Fedel wrote:
Yes. No thanks.

If you want to be awkward by not clarifying what you meant then that's your prerogative then.


That's nice.

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Postby Albrenia » Wed Oct 28, 2020 2:05 pm

Fedel wrote:
Albrenia wrote:
Methinks you might need to lay off the persecution complex a bit.


Good thing the thoughts you've expressed thus far are irrelevant to me.


Ok? What's even the point of saying that then?

I literally argued that QAnon should not be inherently banned, and just pointed out that you complained about getting the result you wanted.

Anyway, this thread looks pretty much done.

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The Archregimancy
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Postby The Archregimancy » Wed Oct 28, 2020 2:06 pm

Fedel and The New California Republic, I'm not sure that this mutual sniping between the two of you is entirely helpful.

I would prefer not to have to lock the thread because it's turned into mutual raspberry-blowing spam.

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Postby Nevertopia » Wed Oct 28, 2020 2:07 pm

QAnon was a mistake.
So the CCP won't let me be or let me be me so let me see, they tried to shut me down on CBC but it feels so empty without me.
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The New California Republic
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Postby The New California Republic » Wed Oct 28, 2020 2:08 pm

The Archregimancy wrote:Fedel and The New California Republic, I'm not sure that this mutual sniping between the two of you is entirely helpful.

I would prefer not to have to lock the thread because it's turned into mutual raspberry-blowing spam.

It's fine Arch it's finished, I just wanted some clarification on what he meant but that wasn't to be.
Last edited by Sigmund Freud on Sat Sep 23, 1939 2:23 am, edited 999 times in total.

The Irradiated Wasteland of The New California Republic: depicting the expanded NCR, several years after the total victory over Caesar's Legion, and the annexation of New Vegas and its surrounding areas.

White-collared conservatives flashing down the street
Pointing their plastic finger at me
They're hoping soon, my kind will drop and die
But I'm going to wave my freak flag high
Wave on, wave on
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Fedel
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Postby Fedel » Wed Oct 28, 2020 2:11 pm

Albrenia wrote:
Fedel wrote:
Good thing the thoughts you've expressed thus far are irrelevant to me.


Ok? What's even the point of saying that then?


When somebody believes their opinion means more than it does, it's helpful to society at large to disabuse them of that notion.

The Archregimancy wrote:Fedel and The New California Republic, I'm not sure that this mutual sniping between the two of you is entirely helpful.

I would prefer not to have to lock the thread because it's turned into mutual raspberry-blowing spam.


I think it's just about wrapped up at this point.
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