Shofercia wrote:New haven america wrote:1. Yeah, no, that's 100% just happening. In fact, 1/2 of the former Soviet states are dealing with a population that's rife with learned helplessness. You can tell which ones they are cause they're the ones that are dictatorships.
2. All of which became dictatorial states before it was too late to do anything, as I already said.
3. Why is Reagan celebrated as a national hero despite the fact that he did nothing but set in motion the economic system that would kill the middle class, took credit for the economic boom of the 80's despite having nothing to do with it (Computers were the cause), and turned the Republican Party Authoritarian?
Just because someone does something wrong or stupid doesn't magically make the incorrect behaviors of those they get replaced by disappear.
4. No, they'll do it because of learned helplessness. Former USSR states like Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Kyrgyzstan, etc... don't have that issue and are much freer, economically successful, and socially safe than those that are dealing with learned helplessness.
5. Yeah, sure, you'll just downplay it as much as possible and run into any thread where his name is mentioned to sing his praises.
6. Russia used to be the #1 economy in the entire world. Going by the standard you've presented thus far, I'd argue Putin's doing an even shittier job than I originally believed. After all, Russia used to be #1 but now it's only #6 if we're being generous.
That Shof is a faulty argument, you should know this because you've been using it quite a bit.
1. Ah yes, the theory of learned helplessness, which totally explains Russia's Revolution of 1917, which followed the 1905 Revolt. Like it totez does, all you have to do is ignore the facts, and the explanation will like totez work, pwomise!
Both were spawned by lack of proper infrastructure, military defeats, and repressive regimes, but hey, aren't people who were ruled by the House of Romanov since 1613 not supposed to revolt, ya know, learned helplessness and all? They've been learning since 1613! Joking and sarcasm aside, the theory was initially tested on dogs, and talks about individual behavior, rather than societal behavior. Furthermore, if the Russians have this "Learned Helplessness" why remove the unpopular Governor of Kaliningrad out of office? Why remove former defense minister Serdyokov, or Moscow's Mayor - Luzhkov? Why protest against the corrupt Yeltsin administration?
Furthermore, claiming that only half of the post-Soviet countries have Learned Helplessness is racist, since all of them were under the Russian Empire, had brief independence, and fell under the USSR. But only half have Learned Helplessness? Who theorized that one, Professor Bullshitter McCrap?
2. I don't view a state that has democratic presidential elections, where the president gets roughly his approval rating as a vote tally, as dictatorial. Furthermore, there were protests in Russia after a disputed Parliamentary Election, and, most recently, protests in Belarus after an allegedly rigged election. Remind me the last time that happened in Saudi Arabia or Zimbabwe...
3. While you're welcome to blame the Bush-Clinton created bullshit system of economics on Ronald Reagan, it's not factual, but neither is chanting "Learned Helplessness" in response to facts you dislike.
Putin's Demographic Reforms, the Crimean Reclamation, the Victory in the Ossetian War, Victories in Dagestan and Chechnya, stabilization of Russia, promotion of education, internet proliferation, economic boom, massive increase in the Standard of Living, etc, etc, etc - have all been good things.
4. The Baltics are currently moving to ban RT - an example of McFreedom no doubt: https://www.pri.org/file/2020-07-28/bal ... dcaster-rt Nothing says freedom of speech like suppressing it. Furthermore, smaller countries are going to be safer, that's just the nature of the beast - shall I compare the safety of Lichtenstein to France or the UK? Kind of desperate to throw an issue based on country-size, don't ya think? As for economic indicators, "dictatorial" Belarus is doing twice better than "democratic" Ukraine in terms of GDP-PPP-per capita, so you'd expect the Baltics to do twice as good as Russia, right?
Except, much like the rest of your post, that's also bullshit. According to the IMG, Russia's at $30,820 and Latvia's at $32,987. Much better? Did you even look at the facts before you made that disaster of a post?
5. I'll go into threads where someone's arguing against the facts, and point that out, if I have the time, but you do you.
6. I'm talking about Putin's tenure, and Russia wasn't the number one economy when he took over. If I was praising Gorbachev or Yeltsin, you'd have a point, but I've admitted, repeatedly, that both were total and utter disasters, even greater than the post that I'm responding to. Right now Russia's number five, ahead of Germany, according to the IMF, and the reason that I'm using the IMF, is because they have 2020 numbers whereas World Bank has 2019 numbers. Fairly soon Russia will surpass Japan, and be number four.
Who's ahead of Russia? The US - an economic superpower, as well as China & India - countries with over one billion people. Being in the top five ain't bad when that's the company you're in. That all ya got? Figures.
Flaming. Emphasis mine. Also threadjacking.
